Is this mass formation psychosis?

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The reaction from the institutions to the Taylor Swift concert series in Toronto has been completely over the top and downright strange. The city has renamed streets, cleared out homeless encampments and even shutdown the DVP for Taylor Swift's police-escort motorcade. Families are so desperate to see Swift that they are spending thousands of dollars on obvious ticket scams. Something just doesn't seem right with any of this.

Harrison Faulkner breaks down what is going on with the Taylor Swift Toronto tour on the latest episode of Ratio'd.

 

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No, this is capitalism. No one is being forced to pay for her tickets.
 

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I don’t think so either.

It is a reaction to the modern world losing the “commonality of shared experiences” as one author put it.

I said in the longer thread about Taylor that less good music is being made now due to the changing payment mechanism for musicians.

Another poster replied that he disagrees. He or she said that the Indie music scene is excellent, and there are not presently just a few radio stations playing a few hit songs.

He or she may be correct, but the lack of major rock star bands and constant playing of certain songs is consistent with my point.

It used to be that there were like thirty to fifty major rock bands and everyone listened to their numerous albums. New singles and albums from popular bands were widely anticipated.

Same with movies and TV. There were three or four networks. Everyone watched All in The Family, Happy Days, MASH, Seinfeld, Friends, etc. and they fucking talked about it the next day.

Movies? The 1970s were the Golden Age and the 1980s weren’t bad either.. Star Wars, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather series, Carnal Knowledge, Kramer v. Kramer, E.T., Deer Hunter, etc. Everyone, and I mean everyone, saw those movies when they were in the theatres. They had to. There were no VCRs or DVDs in the 1970s.

Now there are a million cable and satellite TV stations and two million XM satellite radio stations. Huge numbers of people don’t have the satisfaction of all experiencing the same entertainment experience and discussing it afterward. Everyone has too much choice and when they all make different choices they have fewer people to discuss what they watched or listened to.

With the exception of Taylor Swift. She has managed to give many people what they crave. A shared experience.
 
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I don’t think so either.

It is a reaction to the modern world losing the “commonality of shared experiences” as one author put it.

I said in the longer thread about Taylor that less good music is being made now due to the changing payment mechanism for musicians.

Another poster replied that he disagrees. He or she said that the Indie music scene is excellent, and there are not presently just a few radio stations playing a few hit songs.

He or she may be correct, but the lack of major rock star bands and constant playing of certain songs is consistent with my point.

It used to be that there were like thirty to fifty major rock bands and everyone listened to their numerous albums. New singles and albums from popular bands were widely anticipated.

Same with movies and TV. There were three or four networks. Everyone watched All in The Family, Happy Days, MASH, Seinfeld, Friends, etc. and they fucking talked about it the next day.

Movies? The 1970s were the Golden Age and the 1980s weren’t bad either.. Star Wars, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather series, Carnal Knowledge, Kramer v. Kramer, E.T., Deer Hunter, etc. Everyone, and I mean everyone, saw those movies when they were in the theatres. They had to. There were no VCRs or DVDs in the 1970s.

Now there are a million cable and satellite TV stations and two million XM satellite radio stations. Huge numbers of people don’t have the satisfaction of all experiencing the same entertainment experience and discussing it afterward. Everyone has too much choice and when they all make different choices they have fewer people to discuss what they watched or listened to.

With the exception of Taylor Swift. She has managed to give many people what they crave. A shared experience.
Apart from the obvious drawbacks of being really old, I'm glad I was born when I was, and got to enjoy all the cultural experiences of the late 1950's though to the late 1980's, especially musically.

Sure there's good entertainment being produced subsequent to 1990, but it's not so readily disseminated to the general public as a whole.

Most great TV series are only available on streaming services such as Crave, Apple TV, Paramount +, etc., and most "small" but excellent independent movies, such as the amazing "Anora" are only being shown in niche theatres such as the Varsity at Bay/Bloor. Major large movie theatres like Cineplex Yorkdale and similar ones tend to show only the "blockbusters" with mass general appeal.
 
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The yanks just elected an insane idiot as president and you think Taylor Swift concerts are crazy?
Not as unrelated as you might think.

The popular vote was Trump 50 percent and someone other than Trump 50 percent.

There is a much higher proportion of people who really hate Trump in that latter 50 percent than there are of people who really love Trump in his 50 percent.

And Trump’s 50 percent came more largely from rural folks without a lot of wealth. Thst isn’t her fan base after she went Pop instead of Country, and they aren’t paying a fortune to travel to her concerts.

Music and travel are cathartic to people with money. Taylor endorsed Harris with a sign-off referencing Vance’s put-down of adult single women without kids.

That made her more popular among the Trump-haters, including the media, most of whom hate Trump and Vance. They want to buy her music and go to movies about her even more now. And root for her boyfriend’s football team.

So there is plenty of psychology at work here, just like the original post said. But that has always been the case. Look how big music and concerts were to the 1960s. Crosby Stlls and Nash’s “Ohio” is still widely played on Classic Rock stations and I am sure plenty of young people google Nixon and Tin Soldiers are coming, we are finally on our own. They find out that a huge portion of the country hated Nixon, especially the young people at the time. Nixon won the popular vote twice, and barely lost eight years before winning. When you read 1960s and 1970s history as written by the media, you wouldn’t guess that.
 

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As opposed to the dementia patient. Or the whore who sucked and fucked her way to the top?
Hahahhahahaa. You say whore using her pussy to better herself on a board about hookers???????? Oh the irony.

That is not true about her but it is still hilarious for a board like this.
 

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Hahahhahahaa. You say whore using her pussy to better herself on a board about hookers???????? Oh the irony.

That is not true about her but it is still hilarious for a board like this.
She was a lady of modest means who was Willie Brown’s sugar baby. Which is certainly fine with me, but those who disapprove should realize that says more about the corruption of San Francisco politics than it does about her. She wasn’t going to advance otherwise. Note that Gavin Newsome comes from enormous family wealth and never faced advancement issues.

Trump inherited a billion dollar real estate empire that he squandered before a stupid reality TV show bailed him out.

I don’t like Kamala because she was willing to go after low-end prostitution despite being a sugar baby before that was even a term. However, she did concede in one interview about the Nordic Model when pressed that independent sex workers could be viewed as not being exploited. Trump was not asked much about sex work, which is ironic given the $10K he overpaid for a night with Stormy Daniels.

I liked Kamala better than Trump, but of the three people in question, I think I would pick Taylor Swift. You won’t find likeable people in U.S. politics.
 
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Nah, not defending her, defending right from wrong and left wing lunacy. We're only 2 weeks in and the pissing and moaning is going strong. Ya'll got 4YEARS of torture ahead of you. Why not sit down and shut the fuck up so the rest of us can enjoy the show? 🤷‍♂️ :ROFLMAO:
Brother I am not the one here white knighting for some convicted felon’s prostitute wife 😂😂
 

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Nah, not defending her, defending right from wrong and left wing lunacy. We're only 2 weeks in and the pissing and moaning is going strong. Ya'll got 4YEARS of torture ahead of you. Why not sit down and shut the fuck up so the rest of us can enjoy the show? 🤷‍♂️ :ROFLMAO:
IF she's had Trump's tiny tool in her, she is tainted goods... I'll pass.
 
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