Is this fair? Opinions welcome!

[MORGAN_JAYDE]

There are all types of sessions, and I have noticed some disparity between session types and a flat contribution request (Rate).


Let's consider 2 clients:
Client Basic, and Client Deluxe

Client Basic prefers the following type of session: He is relatively quick 'n easy in his "Expression," and for example, only wants bbbj and k9, and WANTS to be out the door in 1 hour. In essence, Client Basic wants the minimal for whatever reason. Nothing wrong with that, I might add.

Client Deluxe wants the additional options of DATY, DDFK, prolonging expression (Voluntarily or involuntarily) MSOG, the option to take a few extra minutes for conversation, etc. Basically, Client Deluxe wants all possible options available. Nothing wrong with this either, but my point is....

Why should these two clients contribute the same?

Just thinking out loud...

 

[y2kmark]

Menu

Many SPs already have a "menu" of extras and there are certainly differnt SPs at different price levels. Why complicate things further by having some sort of multiple pricing structure?

 

[papasmerf]

Lets say 2 people go to a movie

One falls asleep 20 minutes in, the other watches the entire movie. 2 hourslater then both leave the movie. One is refreshed from the nap and the excited over what was just seen. Should the one who slept been charged differently then the one who watched the movie?

 

[lasslicker]

I think watching a film is a much more passive activity than an SP session (perhaps with the exeption of midnight showings of The Rockey Horror Picture Show).

Some clients would take more energy/time out of an SP than others, but I always thought that this explained the guys who only go for half an hour vs. the full hour sessions.

 

[yoniluvrca]

Hi Morgan-Great pics by the way,

I don't see there as being any "shoulds" here. Some Sps have a menu and charge by the service. This seems to be quite common in the lower end brothels here in Europe. Myself, I don't enjoy this type of service. It seems rather cold and impersonal to me.

Seems to me that you are talking about the difference between a GFE and a wham bam Thy mam type encounter. For me the GFE is not a matter of a lady having a menu. It is more of an energy thing. I may not get all I "want", but what I get she really wants to give. For instance, she may not be into kissing and half way through the encounter we brush lips for a very light kiss. This means much more than a lady I pay an extra 20$ to for DFK. And I am very appreciative when this happens as one can not buy it, one can only buy the ladies time and the act like a gentleman.

Don't know what this look like from your side but I would be curious to find out.

YL

 

[MORGAN_JAYDE]

For starters, I have always despised the menu idea, mostly because it does seem cold and impersonal - which contradicts my personality.

On the other hand, however, I feel a little like the wham bam gentlemen get a sort of rippped off. Especially if they just want a basic "procedure" for stress relief, or if that is just their preference.

So yes, this post is a bit of an exploration/experiment. And yes, your opinions will help me decide.

I have to agree also with the complication issue too though. Simple and sweet is my preference, but good things are never simple...

 

[MORGAN_JAYDE]

Oh yes, and I did forget to mention something regarding the kissing...

FK, and DFK are always fine,
I do, however find excessive DDFK to be a bit more energy consuming, especially from the type who consumes the whole mouth constantly while salivating. (hee hee)

 

[Meesh]

It was always my belief that one paid for a ladies time and that whatever happened was between he and the lady.

 

[SoldierBoy]

Daty should never be an "option" or "upgrade" from "basic" service. I think Meesh sums it up pretty clearly.

SB

 

[MORGAN_JAYDE]

Hi Meesh
I forgot all about that aspect. Good point!

Herein, however, lies a dilemma, as
reviews make it no longer private info.

The activities I picked for client Basic and Client Deluxe were just used for example's sake, but SB's point adds yet another issue. Should greek be an upgrade?

Greaaat, now I can't stop thinking! and now I am REALLY confused.

Perhaps time is the best measure after all.

 

[MojoRisin']

Morgan if you are comfortable offering all the "extras" id think it should be up to the client as to whether he is looking for the standard package or deluxe. As long as the guys know ahead what you have to offer and what your price is, they will take part in what they feel comfortable with. Knowing ahead what you are also comfortable with. Dont worry about the money (although that is sweet) the guys that pay you the same for different services may be getting the same pleasure out of their individual experiences. Some like lots of extras and interaction and others are seeking less. All im sure that have seen you have left happy and fullfilled in their minds. Although im only assuming. Maybe i should see for myself!

 

[Malibook]

YMMV

Would you even want to provide these deluxe services to every Tom, Dick, and Harry?

I would think that tips would be a factor as well.

 

[RoadwarriorII]

The main value of the way the pricing works for SP's is the buyer knows what to expect. Provider X @ $$ provides this level of service. Provider Y @ $$ provides that level. Buyer chooses based on preferences, access, and personal priority.

I might suggest that a better idea would be to offer a 'special to you reduced rate' to select repeat customers who you feel may not be getting 'full value' in their appointments. A secret 'basic rate' if you will. Those customers would feel 'special', regular customers wouldn't feel they should get 'the other rate', the SP could choose when and who it would be offered to, and new clients wouldn't be confused about what rate they might be paying and what was included (or not included).

 

[Jade4u]

Men generally know what sorts of servives they are looking for and will start out first by searching for the girls that provide those services. After they narrow that down they will then start looking at the pricing structures etc..

I do not think it matters how you charge as long as the men do not think they are going to be taken for a ride and asked for more beyond what was already calculated in their minds. Just be honest and upfront about what you charge and do not have hidden costs.

As long as they know what they want and understand the cost before they hit your door step I do not think it should be an issue. I myself have two pricing structures that works just fine. One is for what I call regular clients and the other is for my Dom clients. My regular clients would never have any extra costs but yes my Dom clients depending on what they want to do may have extra costs. But clarity is first and foremost understand what a client is seeking and make things clear to him and all will be fine.

But understand that once you start charging extras the men will be asking you a lot more questions and rightfully so. They do like things clear and understood themselves. So, if you decide to do such a thing make it clear as to what would be considered an extra.

 

[xarir]

Extra charges make me suspicious. If I have to pay, say, an extra $50 for DATY will I start & stop or do I get one chance to do it, then we move on to the next menu item? Will there be a time limit imposed on the action? i.e. For $50 I get 10 min of DATY and that's it?

Why should I bother seeing a lady like this? It's much easier for me to pay one standard fee ($250 or so) and just go with the flow and let things happen.

BTW - I agree with Sheik's point about charging extra for Greek.

OMG! Did I just agree with Sheik?!

 

[The Shake]

Is it fair?

Who cares?

Personally, I'm sick of adults whining about fairness and behaving like jealous toddlers when they perceive someone else is getting better/more/cheaper/special treatment. (nb - I'm not attacking Morgan - this is a general slam on people.)

The key question with any service is did I get value for my money? Did I enjoy it? Was it what I wanted? Honestly, its just childish to allow what you think someone else got impact your satisfaction with something.

 

[MORGAN_JAYDE]

Oh I totally understand where you are coming from Shake! Glad you said what you said.
Perception plays such a huge factor in all of this.

Not to mention that Life itself isn't fair.... Or I prefer to think of it as it is equally unfair to everyone in the end, therefore it is fair.

Now from a marketing perspective, I am certainly gaining a lot of information which is also awesome.

I do like the Secret Rate thing, but that would eliminate reviews from that client.

I actually perceive it to be more of an option to "Downgrade" activities, rather than upgrade. So everything remains normal UNLESS a gentleman just needs/wants to get off to my body style and leave.

Now I'm curious, why are some dom services extra?

Yep, still learning...
Thanks for your time and input!

 

[MojoRisin']

i think Dom services are extra because they are a specialty and there is little competition out there that provides such service. Therefore they can charge extra for those clients that have few places to find it

 

[Peace4u]

Probably the first guy can be done in a half an hr.I guess its your choice if you want to offerr that type of session.

 

[Peace4u]

Is it fair?

Who cares?

Personally, I'm sick of adults whining about fairness and behaving like jealous toddlers when they perceive someone else is getting better/more/cheaper/special treatment. (nb - I'm not attacking Morgan - this is a general slam on people.)

The key question with any service is did I get value for my money? Did I enjoy it? Was it what I wanted? Honestly, its just childish to allow what you think someone else got impact your satisfaction with something.

Well i guess you are right in a way,life tends not to be fair.But it isnt a bad thing if Morgan does want to be more fair.