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John Wick

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This is a seemingly logical perspective that ignores some aspects of reality:

* Most people have deep insecurities that are difficult to understand, never mind manage.
* Social talent is rare and often highly tied to physical attributes, including charisma.
* Countless studies show people project and show confidence online that does *not* manifest in reality.

Net is while I understand your point, being intimidated can be perfectly understandable given people are, well, people.
More than a few times, I have seen people literally shaking in the presence of providers, so yeah, it happens.
Totally true, but remember - the vast majority of guys on these boards are not noobs. They're somewhere between 'experienced' and 'career man-whore' on the hobby scale.

I get it, if it's your first to fifth time seeing an escort, but if you're a guy who's been playing on the pro tour for a few seasons , as they say on 'Spartacus': 'Take hold of your cock and be a man!'

PS There were some really dirty, ugly dudes on that show who were getting fucked gangbusters by hot slave chicks - few of them seemed too worried about how they looked at the cell door to the slave chick they were pounding for coin hard won in the arena. LMFAO!
 

xmontrealer

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Have to admit I've felt intimidated by especially gorgeous ladies in the industry, who I know I would never have had a chance with even when I was in my prime.

I usually get over it after a few sessions if we have established a rapport and comfort level, and when I feel confident I am giving them pleasure as well.
 

John Wick

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....when I feel confident I am giving them pleasure as well.
Serious question here: why is this so important to you (or anyone else) in a pay for play scenario? I'm not saying you should disregard the lady entirely, but also don't think this should be at the center of your universe either. Wife or SO? Absolutely. The side chick, SB, or random escort? Not so much.
 

jalimon

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Have to admit I've felt intimidated by especially gorgeous ladies in the industry, who I know I would never have had a chance with even when I was in my prime.

I usually get over it after a few sessions if we have established a rapport and comfort level, and when I feel confident I am giving them pleasure as well.
Jesus there would be almost no one for me to see if I only had to see the one I feel confident about giving them pleasure!!
 

Hungry101

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absolutely.....
there has been 1 lady I've been dying to see for atleast 5 years
She's gorgeous
Her pics are spectacular
and she has this air of confidence which I love...
but I am soooo.... outta her league I cant pull the trigger on requesting some time with her
I feel like when I knocked on her door and it opened she'd come up with some excuse to cancel and close the door in my face.
I know she's classy enough to go thru with the appointment but I would probably feel like she'd be thinking ....just hurry up and pop
Tell me who she is. I can test the waters and see if she likes old, fat, ugly guys with impeccable hygiene and adequate cash reserves...actually I lost weight and I'm not that ugly but the girls are no longer beating down the door trying to see me either.
 

doggystyle99

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Serious question which will require some honesty. When you are browsing through websites, Twitter, or Terb are there certain women you pass by because you feel intimidated /nervous for some reason? If so, what’s the reason? I’m curious. xxoo
I don't get intimidated by the ads or posts of SP's or in general by women. I think the guys that do get intimidated about SP's are for the most part insecure about themselves.
I use social media feeds of SP's to assess if the SP is a good match for me not only physically but also personality wise. I believe all hobbyists should use social media feeds to their advantage and have said so numerous times. Any SP who complains about her clients or the industry or it's just constant negativity, has a sense of entitlement or asks for gifts/handouts is an escort I will never see regardless of her looks or her reviews.
These SP's look down on their clients and view the men that see them as unworthy and only see the clients as a means to their wants.

It's great avoiding these bad attitude SP's who have a warped view of the industry and their clients. I rarely have bad experiences.
 

Thackeray

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Serious question which will require some honesty. When you are browsing through websites, Twitter, or Terb are there certain women you pass by because you feel intimidated /nervous for some reason? If so, what’s the reason? I’m curious. xxoo
Literally never.

Although for SURE I've avoided indies because of all the disclosure required. And for a lot of indies, it's $500+ to even meet for the first time, and in my experienced more than half of the time the first meeting sucks anyway.

But to your actual question? Never even a hint of intimidation. Not sure what could even create that.
 

doggystyle99

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What I really don't understand is guys like this thumper above who feel intimidated, inadequate or unworthy of any escort because of how he thinks he looks, or how much/little he thinks the escort will find him attractive. If you have cash in hand, and are a clean, decent and respectful human being, it doesn't really matter what you look like. You pay, you get to play. If she accepts your money, she's providing a paid service. You shouldn't feel bad about yourself or worry about whether or not she's attracted to you. Most are not, but are well paid to be good actors. Just go with the paid illusion and have fun. None are going to wind up as your girlfriend or wife IRL anyway, so after you walk out the door when all is said and done, it doesn't matter at all what she thought of your looks.
For certain hobbyists this is the only way for them to experience intimacy/sex as they are either socially inept, or just incredibly insecure and don't have a healthy dating life outside of this hobby. Unfortunately there are many SP's who take full advantage of these types of clients.
As good as it is for these types of clients to experience the intimacy/sex I find that these types of clients are the ones who get attached to the SP's very easily.
Unfortunately these types of clients also feel like there is more to their meetings with SP's than it usually is.

PS if you want to see what most of the hobbyists are like physically or personality wise attend one of the social parties, and you will fully understand why some post the way they do.
 

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Serious question here: why is this so important to you (or anyone else) in a pay for play scenario? I'm not saying you should disregard the lady entirely, but also don't think this should be at the center of your universe either. Wife or SO? Absolutely. The side chick, SB, or random escort? Not so much.
This is always an interesting question. On a prior thread - I think for a poll I posted on whether it's important for the SP to cum, a wise man said, "heck no. It's not even important if you cum."

Took me years to arrive at this point of view.

It's ALWAYS better if the woman is turned on - I've had a very good week for making SPs cum and it's fucking fantastic - but you just can't control a lot of the variables.

A lot of women just don't cum easily, and even when they do they've had to perform that act half a dozen times earlier that same day.

But the point of view I've arrived at is that the main metric for success is how I feel AFTER the session - was it memorable, will I think about it later, and did the woman make me feel at least somewhat sexually attractive.

And that latter can be almost anything from a handjob to anal.
 

Hungry101

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I use social media feeds of SP's to assess if the SP is a good match for me not only physically but also personality wise. I believe all hobbyists should use social media feeds to their advantage and have said so numerous times. Any SP who complains about her clients or the industry or it's just constant negativity, has a sense of entitlement or asks for gifts/handouts is an escort I will never see regardless of her looks or her reviews.
These SP's look down on their clients and view the men that see them as unworthy and only see the clients as a means to their wants.
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Good points. Amazing isn't it? I like to think that they are just blowing off steam but some girls can't help showing their true colors by constant client bashing. Don't but the hand that feeds you.

PS if you want to see what most of the hobbyists are like physically or personality wise attend one of the social parties, and you will fully understand why some post the way they do.
I've attended a few GTs and I have met some really nice people there. I met some really kind, friendly, witty, and successful people. I do remember an old guy that was dressed like a homeless person. I remembered thinking when I saw him in his fleece that was stained and repaired with electrical tape Shouldn't he spend the next 200$ he gets on a coat?
 

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Serious question which will require some honesty. When you are browsing through websites, Twitter, or Terb are there certain women you pass by because you feel intimidated /nervous for some reason? If so, what’s the reason? I’m curious. xxoo
I dont remember ever being intimidated, more intrigued. I have seen dominating, submissive, women that are stronger than me, short, tall, skinny and fullfigured. I definitely do pass by certain women, my main reasons are:

If I think they come across as entitled, we work hard for our money and so does the SWer, as such there needs to be mutual respect.
Fake, with that I mean there are too many enhancements. I am ok with breast enhancements, they have improved so much, what does not do it for me is fake lips, butt implants and even items such as extra big eye lashes. The more natural the better
Tattoo’s and piercings that are over the top. I do like tattoo’s that are beautiful, prime example is Daphne Rose and her sleeve, beautiful on a beautiful women. I don’t mind piercing such as nipples and tongue studs, it becomes challenging for me when there are too many and it just takes away from the beauty of the person (in my eyes).
 

rhuarc29

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I am intimidated sometimes by the personal information that escorts sometimes ask for. I am also intimidated to use escorts from a certain agency whose owner has been known to out clients and employees and is a capricious loose cannon on Twitter and review boards.
I don't see that as intimidation at work. I see that as common sense.
 

squeezer

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I dont remember ever being intimidated, more intrigued. I have seen dominating, submissive, women that are stronger than me, short, tall, skinny and fullfigured. I definitely do pass by certain women, my main reasons are:

If I think they come across as entitled, we work hard for our money and so does the SWer, as such there needs to be mutual respect.
Fake, with that I mean there are too many enhancements. I am ok with breast enhancements, they have improved so much, what does not do it for me is fake lips, butt implants and even items such as extra big eye lashes. The more natural the better
Tattoo’s and piercings that are over the top. I do like tattoo’s that are beautiful, prime example is Daphne Rose and her sleeve, beautiful on a beautiful women. I don’t mind piercing such as nipples and tongue studs, it becomes challenging for me when there are too many and it just takes away from the beauty of the person (in my eyes).
I agree, over the top ink and piercings is such a turn-off.

I believe the majority are intimidated by the intrusive screening as per examples like these that illustrate the dangers of submitting one's personal and real-life details.

https://twitter.com/peterinch003/status/1202440487468179457
 

rhuarc29

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I agree, over the top ink and piercings is such a turn off.
Of course people are always entitled to do what they want with their bodies, but I can honestly say I've never seen a woman with tattoos and said "damn, those tattoos make that woman more beautiful". Sometimes I could say "well at least they don't detract from her beauty". But most often I just think "well, that's unfortunate".

I'm sure it's just personal preference speaking. I mean, I like piercings in the ear, navel and, at least aesthetically, the nipple, but can completely understand others not liking that. Mostly I just find the female body attractive as is, so any markings often detract from that.
 

kherg007

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Of course people are always entitled to do what they want with their bodies, but I can honestly say I've never seen a woman with tattoos and said "damn, those tattoos make that woman more beautiful". Sometimes I could say "well at least they don't detract from her beauty". But most often I just think "well, that's unfortunate".

I'm sure it's just personal preference speaking. I mean, I like piercings in the ear, navel and, at least aesthetically, the nipple, but can completely understand others not liking that. Mostly I just find the female body attractive as is, so any markings often detract from that.
Well done sir. You crystallized eloquently some thoughts swirling in my rapidly shrinking brain. Speaking for myself, I've never found a tattoo, piercing, or elaborate long fingernails that have ever made a lady look more beautiful than she is naturally. I have, however, seen some that will make a lady look less beautiful.
 

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That post Squeezer shared on the dangers of intrusive screening is downright scary!
One of the posts from a provider advised that selling client lists happens quite often.
 

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Serious question which will require some honesty. When you are browsing through websites, Twitter, or Terb are there certain women you pass by because you feel intimidated /nervous for some reason? If so, what’s the reason? I’m curious. xxoo
Here's how it goes for me:
1) I look at the pictures.
2) If I like the pictures, I look at the rates. (if she doesn't post rates then I text her)
3) If her rates are in my price range I try to find out if she is legit and will offer a good experience (check review boards and twitter page if she has one).
4) If I get the feeling there is a good chance the session will go well I text to confirm basic info. (sometimes what I find online may be different from current info)
5) Assuming text confirmation works out, I book.
 
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