Is the housing bubble about to burst

onthebottom

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What impact does immigration have on housing?
 
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What impact does immigration have on housing?
Supply and demand. If the demand goes up but the supply doesn't keep pace, prices go up
 

jeff2

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Upward pressure. Makes home prices unaffordable so Canadians can't afford a home to have a family. We counteract this birth rate decline by bringing in more and more Indians. With enough cycles Canada will be 100% Indian, like in 75 years which is fine if the world was racially balanced but not fine if Whites (or any other race) is 6% of the world and going extinct. You don't donate the richest country in the world-Canada to the largest ethnicity in the world- Browns. That just means less human diversity on a global scale.
Developers love it. So do telcos,banks,airlines, etc.
 

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Supply and demand. If the demand goes up but the supply doesn't keep pace, prices go up
True to a large extent, but also must consider with slowing immigration, developers will factor that in their analyses and build less accordingly.
 
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True to a large extent, but also must consider with slowing immigration, developers will factor that in their analyses and build less accordingly.
True
 

nottyboi

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The reason why Trudeau had a mass immigration policy. He was intentionally increasing the value of homes and lands so the government can collect more taxes. I never such garbage ever, Carney will do the same.
The made money on hst but that is gone, resale homes do not generate much revenue except for companies and landlords. Why do you think PP was so angry about the capital gains hike? He has 11 properties,
 

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Condos are absolutely fucked. Single family detached in Toronto proper may hold out a bit longer but will probably decline as they are also heavily inflated. Cottage country is also fucked as well as outskirts of the GTA.

One of the biggest and dumbest bubbles in history.
 
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Condos are absolutely fucked. Single family detached in Toronto proper may hold out a bit longer but will probably decline as they are also heavily inflated. Cottage country is also fucked as well as outskirts of the GTA.

One of the biggest and dumbest bubbles in history.

single family detached in GTA with poor location score are getting murked.
 

jeff2

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Condos are absolutely fucked. Single family detached in Toronto proper may hold out a bit longer but will probably decline as they are also heavily inflated. Cottage country is also fucked as well as outskirts of the GTA.

One of the biggest and dumbest bubbles in history.
Single family homes hold out better. Here is the root of the main reason why besides massive immigration.

 
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This may be somewhat alarmist but I was shocked to see that foreclosures are up 200% since March 2024. Also if you own stock in CIBC I'd consider selling it. The bank is carrying a 480% debt to equity ratio. That's insane.
 

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There may be a financial crisis, but the banks, insurers, and possibly homeowners will get bailed out. The cost will be moderately high inflation, anemic growth, and the loonie becoming the new peso. Carney will dial up immigration again claiming this is the only economically sound lever he has to fight the tariffs, but it will only drive asset prices up while putting a downward pressure on wages as inflation mounts. As long as the liberals have the winning coalition of 905 boomers and young shrieking socialists who are easily whipped into panics and frenzies, as this past elections shows, they have nothing to worry about.

Realistically, though, that is still very unlikely. Home prices won’t collapse. There’s simply too much capital sloshing around in the system that sees Canadian real estate as a safe-haven. Short of a global depression or a global catastrophic conflict, the harsh truth is that Canadian real estate has become unmoored from local economic realities. In other words, if default rates were to soar to catastrophic levels like 30%, there are no shortage of family offices, private equity firms, and sovereign wealth funds that would buy up the housing stock if prices began to correct even 10%.
 

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There may be a financial crisis, but the banks, insurers, and possibly homeowners will get bailed out. The cost will be moderately high inflation, anemic growth, and the loonie becoming the new peso. Carney will dial up immigration again claiming this is the only economically sound lever he has to fight the tariffs, but it will only drive asset prices up while putting a downward pressure on wages as inflation mounts. As long as the liberals have the winning coalition of 905 boomers and young shrieking socialists who are easily whipped into panics and frenzies, as this past elections shows, they have nothing to worry about.

Realistically, though, that is still very unlikely. Home prices won’t collapse. There’s simply too much capital sloshing around in the system that sees Canadian real estate as a safe-haven. Short of a global depression or a global catastrophic conflict, the harsh truth is that Canadian real estate has become unmoored from local economic realities. In other words, if default rates were to soar to catastrophic levels like 30%, there are no shortage of family offices, private equity firms, and sovereign wealth funds that would buy up the housing stock if prices began to correct even 10%.
The Loonie is already a Peso. $15 for a cheeseburger.....
 
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There may be a financial crisis, but the banks, insurers, and possibly homeowners will get bailed out.
Have homeowners ever been bailed out? If I recall correctly, the last time this happened, the banks and insurers got bailed out, the homeowners did not.
 

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Have homeowners ever been bailed out? If I recall correctly, the last time this happened, the banks and insurers got bailed out, the homeowners did not.
No I don't think so nor should they.
Declaring bankruptcy or just walking away from the mortgage are the options.
Houses for most people are bought to live in. Investors take risk like any other investment. Governments shouldn't be bailing them out.
 
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