is Luther's Protest Over?
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Nice that you have been exposed to modern theological thinking although I do believe that Tony Palmer does go a bit overboard in this talk particularly with the title.
Catholic is perhaps the most misunderstand stood word in the world, typically being conflated with Roman Catholic. The term actually means 'universal,' denominations which see themselves as Catholic hold with apostolic succession from the early Church, and see themselves as being a constituent part of the Church Universal (The Orthodox Churches, Anglicans/Episcopalians, many Lutherans, Roman Catholics).
By the way Tony Palmer died over a year ago.
Catholic is perhaps the most misunderstand stood word in the world, typically being conflated with Roman Catholic. The term actually means 'universal,' denominations which see themselves as Catholic hold with apostolic succession from the early Church, and see themselves as being a constituent part of the Church Universal (The Orthodox Churches, Anglicans/Episcopalians, many Lutherans, Roman Catholics).
By the way Tony Palmer died over a year ago.
Pope asks pardon from Waldensian Protestants
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-turin-waldensians-idUSKBN0P214F20150622
Hmm, perhaps next a repudiation of Apostolicæ Curæ?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-turin-waldensians-idUSKBN0P214F20150622
Hmm, perhaps next a repudiation of Apostolicæ Curæ?
Apostolicae curae is the title of a papal bull, issued in 1896 by Pope Leo XIII, declaring all Anglican ordinations to be "absolutely null and utterly void".
The principal objection to validity of Anglican ordinations was the Anglican ordination rites. Leo XIII declared that the rites expressed an intention to create a priesthood different from the sacrificing priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church and to reduce ordination to a mere ecclesiastical institution, an appointment or blessing, instead of a sacramental conferral of actual grace by the action itself.
interesting thread
shows how nuts religion is and so does The Name of The Rose
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Ironically, it was fully the expectation of English Recalcitrants such as Lord Acton that Rome would say that Anglican Orders were valid and that this would ease the position of Roman Catholics in Great Britain. Perhaps he should have known better since nine years before at the time of the First Vatican Council in writing to Mandell Creighton he had uttered the famous dictum "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Further all of the points Leo XIII made are in any event dead letters since by the 1960's all Anglican Bishops could also trace Apostolic Succession through Old Catholic or Eastern Orthodox Bishops.
In any event as stated, who knows perhaps next up a repudiation of Apostolicæ Curæ?
