Is Jaywalking safer than crossing at the intersection?

[blackrock13]

You might like to review this article, which has lots of statistics you can refer to on the matter:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1127572/

Ya, i especially like this passage;

The Association of British Drivers has, however, warned about the dangers of allowing local authorities to set their own 20 mph limits. The association thinks that decisions about where to implement slower speed limits will be made on a political basis, resulting in inappropriate limits on some roads. Inappropriate limits, it argues, will mean that drivers will be more distracted as they focus their attention on the speedometer and not the road ahead.9 It has called for limits to be “reasonable, consistent and above all, based on sound, established road safety principles.”9
Certainly there is a danger in focusing solely on lower speed limits as a means of reducing accidents. Other factors that contribute to road related deaths and injuries include alcohol, tiredness, and poor driving skills. Traffic calming measures and education to improve driver behaviour5 are also an essential parts of road safety. Education should focus not only on drivers but also on parents and children.

So it not fact, just a lot of conjecture and a whole lot of optics.

Who mentioned school zone, not me.

As far as school zones are concerned most kids are brain dead and illogical, especially teenagers so something has to be done. Short of make big detours this was a reasonable modification.

 

[fuji]

So it not fact, just a lot of conjecture and a whole lot of optics.

See the stats they cite. Sure there are multiple factors which lead to accidents, speed limits are only one factor, nevertheless, it is a factor.

Who mentioned school zone, not me.

I have been advocating for a speed limit of 30km in pedestrian heavy areas. Coincidentally (well not really coincidentally) that is the same reduction in speeds that applies in school zones: 30km.

You have been saying a reduction from 50 to 30 would not make any difference, so it would seem you think school zones are ineffective, and you would presumably advocate for raising the speed limit from 30 to 50 in school zones.

 

[blackrock13]

See the stats they cite. Sure there are multiple factors which lead to accidents, speed limits are only one factor, nevertheless, it is a factor.



I have been advocating for a speed limit of 30km in pedestrian heavy areas. Coincidentally (well not really coincidentally) that is the same reduction in speeds that applies in school zones: 30km.

You have been saying a reduction from 50 to 30 would not make any difference, so it would seem you think school zones are ineffective, and you would presumably advocate for raising the speed limit from 30 to 50 in school zones.

You presume wrong, for the same reason I've already stated. Student are oxygen deprived hormonally challenged humans that need help and that a start, but not necessarily the answer everywhere. As I also said, the school zone speed limits can also be possibly challenged as optics and not much more, just like speed pumps and calming zones that are put in then taken out in due course.

Yes I admit speed is a factor, but to what degree? That's what's being argued here. You think it major, just like armoured cockpit doors, and I don't think so, just like armoured cockpit doors. So is whether the driver has blue balls and isn't paying attention to his driving. Do we blame his SO for the accident. Doubt it.