Is it time to rethink the anti-bullying rules?

[WhaWhaWha]

Bull sh*t, It was a one punch fight, that was the only assult period, that is why that charge was laid. I could call you every name inthe book but if I don't touch you, you can't touch me.

I don't condon the bullying and see this as a failure in the school system to protect the other kids and to punish all bullys and make it an inconvince to the parents of the bully so that maybe they will do something about it insteed of saying "way to go son"

The bully threw the first punch. He got off easy. The Korean kid should have and could have maimed him much worse. Would have served the little fucker right.

If that bully was my kid, I'd ground his ass for a year. Take away everything electronic except his clock radio which would be set to wake him at 5am 7 days a week.

 

[tboy]

The bully threw the first punch. He got off easy. The Korean kid should have and could have maimed him much worse. Would have served the little fucker right.

If that bully was my kid, I'd ground his ass for a year. Take away everything electronic except his clock radio which would be set to wake him at 5am 7 days a week.

Actually, if the bully was your kid you'd be punishing him for getting beaten by an asian......that's how they work.

Now what this has taught everyone involved? Victims get punished, if you defend yourself you should really go to town since you're getting charged anyways, and that the legal system protects criminals. It's a tough lesson to be learned so early but they might as well learn it now.......

 

[WhaWhaWha]

Now what this has taught everyone involved? Victims get punished, if you defend yourself you should really go to town since you're getting charged anyways, and that the legal system protects criminals. It's a tough lesson to be learned so early but they might as well learn it now.......

more or less like I said...

The charges occured because the police support and encourage racism. They practice it themselves. Look at the demographics of the York Regional Police force. An officer I know has confidentially admitted that in cases like this, the better or more preferable policy is to wrongfully punish a member of a racial minority than try to "preach" special values to a community that supports them.

 

[dirkd101]

The left leaning school system would rather turn all students into the meek. The meek take the bullying and don't fight back which is what the system wants. Heaven forbid your child should stand up for themselves or a classmate for that would prove your child has a brain and is able to think for themselves and know right from wrong. It would also prove that your child has a back bone and can stand up for themselves, which is wrong as they want to turn all children into helpless beings that we need to collect money for to protect and bring out ad campaings against bullying with ribbons and posters....

 

[oldjones]

The left leaning school system would rather turn all students into the meek. The meek take the bullying and don't fight back which is what the system wants. Heaven forbid your child should stand up for themselves or a classmate for that would prove your child has a brain and is able to think for themselves and know right from wrong. It would also prove that your child has a back bone and can stand up for themselves, which is wrong as they want to turn all children into helpless beings that we need to collect money for to protect and bring out ad campaings against bullying with ribbons and posters....

Since you insist on applying inappropriate political labels to the schoolyard, you'll welcome me countering in kind. Bullies are juvenile right-wingers who's idea of getting along is to use force to impose their selfish ideas and desires on others. They come in all ages, and can be found in all parts of society, and they'll likely never mature out of their fallback commitment that force answers all.

Just turning and beating them up only confirms their belief that everyone's like them and that force is just fine.

Instead call the cops, call the teachers, organize the school, demonstrate their force will always be met by bigger, tougher, longer-lived, better-resourced, more numerous force of civilized society.

They either play nice or lose.

Re: the OP: Seems pretty clear the defect in the system was in the 'trial' part, which is pretty commonly the case. If we're constantly talking about fighting back and such, instead of right and wrong and fairness, how's a poor principal or teacher supposed to suddenly become a Solon?

And just to get back to political mudslinging: picking the miscreant to punish by who did the most visible damage seems an entirely right-wing sort of ridiculousness to me. And look how effective a lesson it's been.

 

[The Options Menu]

Thus the rise in cyber bullying and other meathods of non violent torture, which their are currently no rules against.

My family and extended family is filled with teachers.

That's just plain wrong... If it's not a provincial standard, most school boards individually set policy on harassment and bullying. Most are quite strict on cyber bullying / stalking, and stuff like that. If the school board you are in doesn't have a policy, bitch at them because they should.

Most teachers at this point have had all sorts of training when it comes to this stuff. The number of seminars, workshops conferences, and courses a modern teacher takes is insane. Combine that with a massive increase in paperwork, and it's a good time to become a TA (or EA, sorry.) because teachers just don't have the time, it pays well, and doesn't take much education to be an EA.

As far as calling the cops over a fight-- It's the same as taking kids to the hospital over even minor injuries. If they don't it's a liability issue pure and simple. Blame the lawyers

In this case, IMHO, the cops just weren't overzealous, they were plain wrong. It happens. Too often.

edit: It's not a right or left issue-- It's pure liability. The best way to avoid liability is to always call the cops and always take the kid to the hospital. Yes, discretion makes far more sense in a great many cases but there's this whole "I'll sue!" mentality out there. Even if those charges get thrown out or never get to court in the fist place it's a big waste of time and money. Most school boards have deemed it better to throw 'discretion' out the window when it comes to these things.

 

[GotGusto]

The victim did the right thing by defending himself.

I don't have children and I've never been bullied, but if I did have a kid and he wasn't allowed to defend himself against attacks at school, I'd go to his school and break each of his attackers in half.