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Is Canada racist?

The ugly truth is that the canadian immigration service is racist. Canadians
would be shocked if the knew what takes place there.
 
danmand said:
The ugly truth is that the canadian immigration service is racist. Canadians
would be shocked if the knew what takes place there.
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Oh, here we go.
And you know this how ?
 
danmand said:
The ugly truth is that the canadian immigration service is racist. Canadians
would be shocked if the knew what takes place there.
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Racist against whom?

According to Stats Can, here's the number on immigration by country of birth from 2001 - 2006

155105 People's Republic of China
129140 India
77880 Philippines
57630 Pakistan
38770 United States of America
35450 South Korea
28080 Romania
27600 Iran
25655 United Kingdom
25310 Colombia

Doesn't look racist to me.

http://www12.statcan.ca/census-recensement/2006/as-sa/97-557/p4-eng.cfm

From the PDF half way down.
 
A buddy of mine said one day, 'let's not accept any immigrants from any countries that we can't immigrate to'. Hmmmmm.

I just couldn't get mad at him for saying it.
 
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danmand said:
The ugly truth is that the canadian immigration service is racist. Canadians
would be shocked if the knew what takes place there.
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Ah, DM;

You thought you could slip something like that while I was sleeping.

NUTS!

Are we talking institutional racism, individual targeted racism, or what? How many races we talking about here; 5, 9, 100 or what?

Give us three examples.
 
send those 600.626 people back to wear they came from, and we can employ some of our homegrown talent.
 
Honestly, I'm all for immigration and such, but it gets to a point where it has to stop. Canada can only hold so many people before it implodes. We have to turn people away at some point. Or would you rather just evict the people who were born and raised here, because someone from another country wants to move in?
 
There is a big difference between immigrants and refugees. This man was granted refugee status because he convinced a member of the refugee board that he was in danger if he was returned to SA. He was here illegally. Is it racist that Canada granted him refugee status because he is white?
 
No, I don't think that his status was granted because of the colour of his skin. It was granted because of the risk to his life, which was caused by other people's inability to let go of the hatreds of generations past.
One of the biggest problems now is reverse-rascism. Whereas in the past it was the white people discriminating against others nowadays it is more common for others to discriminate again caucasian people. So it doesn't not suprise me at all that this man was shown violence in South Africa based on being white.

I would like to address one portion of that article that I found somewhat amusing. It said that the South African government released a statement claiming most violent crimes were commited against black people, not white.... Now is that just going by the numbers given, or is that putting it in perspective? Because we are talking about Africa. Of course there will be more crimes against black people, there are more black people than white there.
 
There are infinite numbers of ways billions of people around the world are at risk for their lives in their respective countries.

Could a white American who lives in downtown Detroit or south central L.A. make the same claim? How about an American who claims that without health insurance, he is at risk for his life?

Is Canada's goal to take them all in? To save every life on the planet from potential harm? What are the limits to this policy? :confused:
 
Yes Canada is racist.

It wouldn't seem so if you're white, but ask any person of color and they wouldn't hesitate to say that it is. I see it everyday, in hiring practices, employment opportunities, in the academic field, in dating and friendship, the legal system, the way news is reported, in law enforcement, in virtually every sphere. Canada in my opinion, is actually more racist than the States. At least they make the effort to encourage people of color in the arts, and in about every level of social participation. Canadians don't examine, talk about and discuss, or engage in dialogue, about this issue.

As a person of color born and raised here, I can't say I am impressed. I have made it very far academically, and will not be investing it here, I will be putting my investment in a country that I feel will give me a shot at developing my fullest potential, and it isn't here. When 911 went down, people here looked and treated me like a terrorist, even younger people, who haven't been living in this country longer than I have. When SARS hit, everyone was avoiding my Asian friends when we would walk down the street. I've had it with the stupidity of Canadians. They are really stupid (especially white canadians). Instead of supporting us, born and raised, they treat us poorly, don't include us in their social circles, and don't provide us the opportunities to really shine. As such, there is no point in me making an investment in this country, when this country doesn't give me their best. And I know I am a valuable commodity because I am young, educated, talented, smart, and hard working. Canadians want to exclude me, fine. I'll leave, and so will all the smart hard working people. Soon, it will just end up being a country of dumb, lazy, racist, coked out, white people, because all the smart people would have invested their time elsewhere.

No point in me getting totally invested in this, I know I am way better than most of the white people in this country.
 
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winstar said:
No point in me getting totally invested in this, I know I am way better than most of the white people in this country.
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Where is this paradise that you will be moving to?
I chose this country to be my home, I have no regrets.
 
Ha, thats a joke. Do you know who really gets shit on when it comes to jobs? White males. Because employers are so worried about seeming racist or sexist that they will hire the slightly less qualified black man, or better still an underqualified asian woman to do the job over a white male.
I'm a step up from the white man because I am a white woman. But its still not that great. Part of the problem is that society has been taught that if you are coloured, you are a victim of racism. Because you are white, you are a racist. Newsflash; not true! I am not racist. I have friends of almost every ethnicity and skin colour. Why? Because I like them.
I got called a racist four years ago because I asked a kid in the hall if he could move. He and his friends were blocking the entire hall, and they were causing a major issue with students trying to get to class. He decided that because he was a black male, as were most of his friends, and I was a white female that he was going to pull the race card. He got in shit, and I got an apology. Not because I was white and he was black, but because he was actually wrong, and I was actually right.
I will stand up to people being assholes, no matter their colour, does that make me a racist? Apparently.
And here is a thought, try actually interacting with everyone on all the social levels, and maybe you will be included. I can't say this applies to you, as I do not know you, but more often than not I found with the people around here that those of a colour other than white tended to band together in groups and ignore everyone else. Even a group of mostly asians, with one or two white kids would often exclude the white kids and have private little 'asian jokes'. But if we tried something like that, we'd get called racist.
And yet another point. All other 'races' have so many different groups and sects you are so proud of. What if we wanted a 'white pride parade'? We'd be racist. What if we wanted our own 'white only' sports leauge? We'd be racist. What if we set up a scholarship program only available to white children? We'd be racist. Someone can move into this country and they expect me to learn their language so they can speak to me, but they can't bother to learn english or french? They moved here, they can bloody well speak our languages if they want to live here.

And as for people avoiding you and your friends after various events, I am sorry about that. As far as I know it did not happen to any of my friends, and I certainly did not stop hanging out with them because of that. So perhaps it is merely the people where you are.
And keep in mind as well that sort of thing happens all over the world, not just in Canada, so do not try and single us out in that particular matter.
 
winstar said:
Yes Canada is racist.

It wouldn't seem so if you're white, but ask any person of color and they wouldn't hesitate to say that it is. I see it everyday, in hiring practices, employment opportunities, in the academic field, in dating and friendship, the legal system, the way news is reported, in law enforcement, in virtually every sphere. Canada in my opinion, is actually more racist than the States. At least they make the effort to encourage people of color in the arts, and in about every level of social participation. Canadians don't examine, talk about and discuss, or engage in dialogue, about this issue.

As a person of color born and raised here, I can't say I am impressed. I have made it very far academically, and will not be investing it here, I will be putting my investment in a country that I feel will give me a shot at developing my fullest potential, and it isn't here. When 911 went down, people here looked and treated me like a terrorist, even younger people, who haven't been living in this country longer than I have. When SARS hit, everyone was avoiding my Asian friends when we would walk down the street. I've had it with the stupidity of Canadians. They are really stupid (especially white canadians). Instead of supporting us, born and raised, they treat us poorly, don't include us in their social circles, and don't provide us the opportunities to really shine. As such, there is no point in me making an investment in this country, when this country doesn't give me their best. And I know I am a valuable commodity because I am young, educated, talented, smart, and hard working. Canadians want to exclude me, fine. I'll leave, and so will all the smart hard working people. Soon, it will just end up being a country of dumb, lazy, racist, coked out, white people, because all the smart people would have invested their time elsewhere.

No point in me getting totally invested in this, I know I am way better than most of the white people in this country.
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Go to ANY country of origin for the people "of colour" that claim racism & you'll see racism...... India/Pakistan/China/Jamacia/Cameroon/Mexico/USA/Brazil/Poland?etcetcetc & fucking etcetera....


So fucking what????? Racism is idiotic but it is EVERYWHERE.....

Almost every county has issues with the dominant group fucking over minorities... Sadly... its called democracy..


Who says that we have to be so much more tolerant than the rest of the world? It would be nice.... but seriously its just not worth the hardships & bullshit & PC hoops everyone has to jump through when the rest of the world doesnt have to...
 
winstar said:
Yes Canada is racist.No point in me getting totally invested in this, I know I am way better than most of the white people in this country.
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... it's a shame that you feel this way. I have encountered quite a bit of racism in my life but I understand that it seems to be inevitable. Racism is everywhere and unfortunately it is a fact of life - not only for visible minorities but even within the Caucasian community. (Think about the dynamics in Europe...) I don't like it but I still love this country for what it is, what I have here and I know that if I were born elsewhere I wouldn't be the person that I am today. ^_^ I hold no grudges against those who chose to judge me - lol... we all judge at one point.

I would love to live in a world where people take me at face value for the skill sets that I have, the person that I am and my mores and values but - unfortunately that won't happen for a long while. In the meantime, I won't LET myself be limited by my skin colour or my gender and I'll transcend the limits that have been placed upon me by society and live my life. Hell, I'm always up for a challenge... :D

I say don't blame the country, blame the people. ^_^ Give back to the system that gave to you, and reeducate the poor saps that think that you shouldn't have done as well as you did. Who knows, maybe someday you'll be able to help out another poorly treated 'minority' - help create the resources and support systems necessary. Lately I've noticed that minorities (IME those in the black community) are the last ones that want to help and support one another...
 
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