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IRS: Sorry, but It’s Just Easier and Cheaper to Audit the Poor

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IRS: Sorry, but It’s Just Easier and Cheaper to Audit the Poor

Congress asked the IRS to report on why it audits the poor more than the affluent. Its response is that it doesn’t have enough money and people to audit the wealthy properly. So it’s not going to.

by Paul Kiel

Oct. 2, 2:47 p.m. EDT

The IRS audits the working poor at about the same rate as the wealthiest 1%. Now, in response to questions from a U.S. senator, the IRS has acknowledged that’s true but professes it can’t change anything unless it is given more money.

ProPublica reported the disproportionate audit focus on lower-income families in April. Lawmakers confronted IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig about the emphasis, citing our stories, and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., asked Rettig for a plan to fix the imbalance. Rettig readily agreed.

Last month, Rettig replied with a report, but it said the IRS has no plan and won’t have one until Congress agrees to restore the funding it slashed from the agency over the past nine years — something lawmakers have shown little inclination to do.

On the one hand, the IRS said, auditing poor taxpayers is a lot easier: The agency uses relatively low-level employees to audit returns for low-income taxpayers who claim the earned income tax credit. The audits — of which there were about 380,000 last year, accounting for 39% of the total the IRS conducted — are done by mail and don’t take too much staff time, either. They are “the most efficient use of available IRS examination resources,” Rettig’s report says.

On the other hand, auditing the rich is hard. It takes senior auditors hours upon hours to complete an exam. What’s more, the letter says, “the rate of attrition is significantly higher among these more experienced examiners.” As a result, the budget cuts have hit this part of the IRS particularly hard.

For now, the IRS says, while it agrees auditing more wealthy taxpayers would be a good idea, without adequate funding there’s nothing it can do. “Congress must fund and the IRS must hire and train appropriate numbers of [auditors] to have appropriately balanced coverage across all income levels,” the report said.

Since 2011, Republicans in Congress have driven cuts to the IRS enforcement budget; it’s more than a quarter lower than its 2010 level, adjusting for inflation.

Recently, bipartisan support has emerged in both the House and Senate for increasing enforcement spending, but the proposals on the table are relatively modest and would not restore the budget to pre-cut levels. However, even a proposed small increase might not come to pass, because it’s**unclear whether Congress will actually pass any appropriations bills this year.

In response to Rettig’s letter, Wyden agreed in a statement that the IRS needs more money, “but that does not eliminate the need for the agency to begin reversing the alarming trend of plummeting audit rates of the wealthy within its current budget.”

https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor
 

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Is it really the poor or is it working class and middle class?

This shouldn't surprise anyone. The IRS knows they can intimidate and bully these taxpayers quickly and cost-effectively.
 

oldjones

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Is it really the poor or is it working class and middle class?

This shouldn't surprise anyone. The IRS knows they can intimidate and bully these taxpayers quickly and cost-effectively.
Same thing: if 1% of the folks have half the wealth, what you call the leftover folks, and where you divide them is trivial semantics.

Are the people with college degrees living under the free way middle class or working class? Are the people whose TVs blare cable feeds to an empty house all day, but claim they "can't afford taxes to pay teachers" in the free public schools poor?

Of course the IRS operates by sound business principles and goes after the low-hanging fruit. Cost per dollar returned shows that's a productive strategy. Donny hasn't paid taxes for years, and intends to keep it up as long as his tax-lawyers cost less than the potential bill. As he says, "That makes me smart". Don't expect he'll be the President who reforms the tax-code to withhold investment income, profits and capital-gains the way taxes are deducted from wages and salaries.

If you don't like poor, try 'victims'. His 'victims',and the 'victims' of other 'smart' folks, if you really care to be accurate. But they do let us have TV.
 

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Half of the population doesn’t pay any income tax, the “poor” are in that segment.

Stupid title.
 

oldjones

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Half of the population doesn’t pay any income tax, the “poor” are in that segment.

Stupid title.
And considering the size of the deficit and national debt this most business-like of Presidents thought necessary and could not avoid, it would appear those who do pay income tax, just aren't paying enough. How much any individual or class can 'afford' to pay or 'should' pay is a vexing question, that this item doesn't deal with, nor does your reply.

But the title makes perfect sense. No one says the auditors are stupid enough to try to collect from the penniless and broke. But you don't know how 'poor' or how 'rich' a non-payer is until you look.

The rich can — and certainly will — keep you from looking for decades. The folks who might only owe a pittance can be frightened into paying for the price of the stamp on the Audit Warning letter.

It's been that way since Hamnurabi.
 

WyattEarp

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Half of the population doesn’t pay any income tax, the “poor” are in that segment.

Stupid title.
Exactly. That's why I questioned the theme. You have to have some disposable income and assets to make it worthwhile for the IRS to go after you.

By the way, why does every fuckin' thread have to be diverted back to Donald Trump? The IRS has been doing this for quite awhile.
 

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Exactly. That's why I questioned the theme. You have to have some disposable income and assets to make it worthwhile for the IRS to go after you.

By the way, why does every fuckin' thread have to be diverted back to Donald Trump? The IRS has been doing this for quite awhile.



Ahem.... you are the first and only one to mention your poor persecuted Demagogue in this thread.




 

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And considering the size of the deficit and national debt this most business-like of Presidents thought necessary and could not avoid, it would appear those who do pay income tax, just aren't paying enough. How much any individual or class can 'afford' to pay or 'should' pay is a vexing....
How about the fuckers stop spending so much money and live on a budget like their tax payers do? Stop trying to buy votes with their bullshit programs.
 

WyattEarp

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Ahem.... you are the first and only one to mention your poor persecuted Demagogue in this thread.
Lol, because threads here don't get diverted by people jamming in an anti-Trump discussion.
 

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How about the fuckers stop spending so much money and live on a budget like their tax payers do? Stop trying to buy votes with their bullshit programs.
No point in telling me; write to Donny and tell him. He's the one ballooning the deficit on your money.

He hasn't paid taxes in years.
 

oldjones

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You might want to go back and read OJ's posts. Both mention him.
What could be more relevant to a thread about who pays taxes and who doesn't than a President who spends vastly more than the country takes in, but pays no income tax himself?

Although he claims to be a billionaire.
 
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