Iranian missile shipment stopped at sea

[basketcase]

Seems Iranian M-302 missiles have been captured on their way somewhere, the belief is to Gaza.

Of course no nation or legally constituted military says it is their missiles so it's pretty clear that once again, Iran is trying to smuggle illegal weapons. US and Israeli intelligence tracked the cargo from Bandar Abbas in Iran.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4495487,00.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israel-shared-intelligence-on-weapons-shipment/

 

[basketcase]

Even Al Jazeera is reporting it as Gaza bound weapons.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middl...aza-bound-weapons-haul-20143514739122985.html

 

[groggy]

Seems Iranian M-302 missiles have been captured on their way somewhere, the belief is to Gaza.

Of course no nation or legally constituted military says it is their missiles so it's pretty clear that once again, Iran is trying to smuggle illegal weapons. US and Israeli intelligence tracked the cargo from Bandar Abbas in Iran.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4495487,00.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israel-shared-intelligence-on-weapons-shipment/

What's the problem here?
Are Palestinians not allowed to defend themselves?
Wouldn't it make you happier if Hamas had weapons that could be aimed at army outposts, so that they could save civilian lives?

 

[basketcase]

What's the problem here?
Are Palestinians not allowed to defend themselves?
Wouldn't it make you happier if Hamas had weapons that could be aimed at army outposts, so that they could save civilian lives?

Hey, look at that. Groggy supports smuggling weapons to terror groups.


And how does Hamas attacking army outposts save lives (of course Hamas is too busy targeting civilians to attack the army)?

 

[groggy]

Hey, look at that. Groggy supports smuggling weapons to terror groups.


And how does Hamas attacking army outposts save lives (of course Hamas is too busy targeting civilians to attack the army)?

The main reason that Hamas is called terrorists these days is that they use home made rockets that can't be aimed against Israel's drones, helicopters, missile dense, nukes....
Hamas has even been on voluntary ceasefire while Israel continues to attack and practice state terrorism and crimes against humanity against Palestinians.

Amnesty is now calling for an end to arms sales to Israel.
Do you support that?

The best would be if both sides are disarmed, but if not, maybe detente is the only way to save lives there now.

 

[basketcase]

The main reason that Hamas is called terrorists these days....

...Is they launch terror attacks on civilians for political purposes.



As for arms sales, Amnesty is showing themselves to be a joke with this campaign? Is Amnesty suggesting arms sales to any other countries being stopped? Syria? Sudan? Russia? Egypt? Sri Lanka? Myanmar?
Funny that a guy who supports the arming of Hezbollah (and not the Lebanese army) and supports arming Hamas wants Israel disarmed.


What would be best is if groups like Hamas stopped their campaign of destroying another country and sat down at peace talks.

 

[groggy]

...Is they launch terror attacks on civilians for political purposes.



As for arms sales, Amnesty is showing themselves to be a joke with this campaign? Is Amnesty suggesting arms sales to any other countries being stopped? Syria? Sudan? Russia? Egypt? Sri Lanka? Myanmar?
Funny that a guy who supports the arming of Hezbollah (and not the Lebanese army) and supports arming Hamas wants Israel disarmed.

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I support disarming both sides, including having Israel sign and abide by the NPT.
If not, I support Palestinians being allowed to defend themselves against an illegal invasion, that is their right.
In fact, the law is on the side of those being illegally occupied, not those committing crimes against humanity upholding an illegal occupation with what Amnesty called a 'callous disregard for human life'.

 

[fuji]

The main reason that Hamas is called terrorists these days is that they use home made rockets that can't be aimed against Israel's drones, helicopters, missile dense, nukes....

God you are fucking ignorant and stupid. Hamas are terrorists not only because they aim their rockets at civilians, but because they blow up busses full of people, restaurants full of people, nightclubs full of people, they attack homes, they ambush civilians in cars and shoot them at the side of the road, they fire anti-tank rounds at children in school busses, they send people to sneak into homes and slit children's throats in their beds.

And hey, here's news for you:

Israel has blockaded Gaza, a territory that is clearly occupied by Israel, and Hamas is clearly a force that is at war with Israel. Anyone attempting to run the blockade and ship in weapons to Hamas is committing an act of war against Israel.

Oh yeah, and this is EXACTLY what that pathetic flotilla was trying to make easier -- break the blockade so exactly these kinds of weapons ships could get through to Gaza and deliver weapons. Thank god Israel upheld the law and stopped that flotilla to Gaza, otherwise the Iranians would be sending lots of these weapons ships!

 

[fuji]

I support disarming both sides, including having Israel sign and abide by the NPT.
If not, I support Palestinians being allowed to defend themselves against an illegal invasion, that is their right.

What a load of complete horse shit.

Israel's occupation is not an illegal invasion. For it to be an "invasion" the territory would have to have been Palestinian at some point, and it NEVER was. It was Jordanian territory prior to 1967. Israel captured it in a war that the Arab countries started -- it is NOT illegal to capture and occupy territory when another country aggressively and illegally attacks you.

And you are repeating this blatant lie that the Palestinians have some natural right to commit violent acts. While the Palestinians could certainly rip up their ceasefire agreement with Israel, so long as it remains in effect they DO NOT have any right to attack Israel. If they DO choose to rip up that ceasefire agreement IDF would be just as free to move in and attack -- don't bitch when IDF wins that fight. A better alternative for the Palestinians is to continue signing peace deals with Israel and create a state and live in peace and prosperity -- but of course in that case they don't have any right to attack Israel.

 

[gryfin]

Seems Iranian M-302 missiles have been captured on their way somewhere, the belief is to Gaza.

Of course no nation or legally constituted military says it is their missiles so it's pretty clear that once again, Iran is trying to smuggle illegal weapons. US and Israeli intelligence tracked the cargo from Bandar Abbas in Iran.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4495487,00.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israel-shared-intelligence-on-weapons-shipment/

What a coincidence....capturing missiles just when the AIPAC convention is on. What luck!

 

[basketcase]

And it seems the missile shipment was for Islamic Jihad, not even Gaza's effective governing party.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-islamist-war-for-gaza/

Once again grog supports arming private armies.

 

[basketcase]

I support disarming both sides, including having Israel sign and abide by the NPT....'.

I not surprised in the least that you support disarming a UN member country that is ruled by democracy (because it is Jewish) but support arming terror factions (and ignore countries that have human rights catastrophes).

 

[gryfin]

And it seems the missile shipment was for Islamic Jihad, not even Gaza's effective governing party.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-islamist-war-for-gaza/

Once again grog supports arming private armies.

You have certainly drifted off into fantasy land. You've yet to provide a single iota of evidence that this "miraculous" find of weapons was ever intended to go to anyone among the Palestinians. Not a single iota.

 

[fuji]

You have certainly drifted off into fantasy land. You've yet to provide a single iota of evidence that this "miraculous" find of weapons was ever intended to go to anyone among the Palestinians. Not a single iota.

Sorry pal your terror buddies ain't getting the missiles.

 

[Aardvark154]

You have certainly drifted off into fantasy land. You've yet to provide a single iota of evidence that this "miraculous" find of weapons was ever intended to go to anyone among the Palestinians. Not a single iota.

To quote Henry David Thoreau: "Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk."

 

[gryfin]

To quote Henry David Thoreau: "Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk."

You've called that correctly. The convenience of this miraculous find just when Netanyahu is attending the AIPAC conference and on a ship 1000 kilometers from Gaza is strong circumstantial evidence of another ham handed Israeli con.

 

[Aardvark154]

You've called that correctly. The convenience of this miraculous find just when Netanyahu is attending the AIPAC conference and on a ship 1000 kilometers from Gaza is strong circumstantial evidence of another ham handed Israeli con.

It is completely unsurprising that you fail to see the forest for the trees.

 

[basketcase]

You've called that correctly. The convenience of this miraculous find just when Netanyahu is attending the AIPAC conference and on a ship 1000 kilometers from Gaza is strong circumstantial evidence of another ham handed Israeli con.

Yep, can't be that Iran is arming it's offshoots. Must be that pesky Jewish conspiracy again.

 

[gryfin]

Yep, can't be that Iran is arming it's offshoots. Must be that pesky Jewish conspiracy again.

No, it's just you peddling that amateurish Iran conspiracy again. You have to admit this a comical stunt by Israel. Can Israel be anymore obvious?

 

[gryfin]

It is completely unsurprising that you fail to see the forest for the trees.

Nor is it surprising to me that you failed to see the forest for the trees. It's the usual ham handed Israeli stunt.