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basketcase

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Me and 68% of US Jews are calling for the end of nuclear proliferation ...
And you continue to justify a country run by an abusive religious oligarchy obstructing UN investigations into undeclared nuclear sites, building more enrichment capacity than the US despite only 1 civilian reactor, and enriching Uranium to 60%, around 20 time more enriched than civilian power needs.


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But keep this on topic, enough of trying to make everything about Israel.
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And I'm good with Israel signing the NPT. What you miss that as an existing power, they would be allowed to keep their nukes whether they signed today or when it was first created. Your typical obsessive whataboutism is also a completely failed argument.



p.s. Undeclared nuclear sites are a violation of the NPT.
 

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And you continue to justify a country run by an abusive religious oligarchy obstructing UN investigations into undeclared nuclear sites, building more enrichment capacity than the US despite only 1 civilian reactor, and enriching Uranium to 60%, around 20 time more enriched than civilian power needs.
How is arguing for them to sign and abide by a nuclear treaty 'justifying' a country?
You're losing your mind.

Stop pushing for war and back having Iran sign the JCPOA and go through inspections to make sure they don't build the bomb.
Why are you so against peace?



And I'm good with Israel signing the NPT. What you miss that as an existing power, they would be allowed to keep their nukes whether they signed today or when it was first created. Your typical obsessive whataboutism is also a completely failed argument.
So why are you still so dead against Iran renewing the JCPOA?
Why do you want nuclear war so badly?
 

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How is arguing for them to sign and abide by a nuclear treaty 'justifying' a country?
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Because you don't. Iran's refusal to answer questions about undeclared nuclear sites is not just a violation of the defunct 2015 deal but also a violation of the NPT. That's not even mentioning the 60% Uranium with no conceivable peaceful use and continual expansion of centrifuges despite having more than enough @ 3.67% to last forever.

And it is IRAN who is refusing to sign a deal right now unless that UN stops investigating those undeclared sites but you haven't even hinted at criticism for their refusal to sign.


Your posts are just pure ideological and hypocritical idiocy just like when you scream it is racist to say a terrorist group are a terrorist group.
 

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I just did.
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So why haven't you commented on Iran's refusal to sign the deal or their refusal to allow the UN to investigate undeclared sites as required by the NPT?

Oh that's right, you hate Israel and since you have no consistent moral stance, you just feel the need to accuse everyone of being racist warmongers.
 

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So why haven't you commented on Iran's refusal to sign the deal or their refusal to allow the UN to investigate undeclared sites as required by the NPT?

Oh that's right, you hate Israel and since you have no consistent moral stance, you just feel the need to accuse everyone of being racist warmongers.
Iran wants the US to guarantee they won't pull a trump and back out of the agreement the next time they elect a republican.
The US doesn't want to end sanctions.

Both sides need to compromise to get the deal done to start opening up Iran and lessening the power of the hardcores there.
Right now Iran is selling drones to Russia, I'd expect this would also stop if the US signed the deal and ended sanctions.

You sound exactly like Lapid and the IDF on this issue.
 

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Iran wants ...
Why is it you keep making shit up when the ONLY existing roadblock (at least according to the people actually mediating in the negotiations) is Iran demanding the US stop investigating the undeclared sites that are a violation of the NPT?

Would you be okay if Saudi Arabia was enriching to 60% and building thousands of advanced centrifuges for 1 civilian reactor?

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But keep this on topic, enough of trying to make everything about Israel.
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p.s. Russia and Iran deserve each other.
 

basketcase

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The Saudis at least signed the NPT.
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Avoiding the question and still trying to pretend it's all about Israel?


Iran is the one refusing to re-join a deal because they don't want the UN investigating NPT violations and you try to pretend it's the US's (and Israel's) fault . Iran's leaders are the ones who chose to enrich to 60% as political blackmail and you stay silent on the issue.

Would you criticize Saudi Arabia if they hid nuclear sites from the UN, enriched to 60%, and had a massive advanced enrichment capacity for one solitary nuclear reactor? Is this going to be yet another question you refuse to answer because it exposes who you are?



p.s. As I pointed out many times, Israel signing the NPT, either when it was created or today, would let them keep their nukes as an existing power. Sorry but your Israel obsession is counter-factual on this one (yet again).
 

Frankfooter

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Avoiding the question and still trying to pretend it's all about Israel?


Iran is the one refusing to re-join a deal because they don't want the UN investigating NPT violations and you try to pretend it's the US's (and Israel's) fault . Iran's leaders are the ones who chose to enrich to 60% as political blackmail and you stay silent on the issue.

Would you criticize Saudi Arabia if they hid nuclear sites from the UN, enriched to 60%, and had a massive advanced enrichment capacity for one solitary nuclear reactor? Is this going to be yet another question you refuse to answer because it exposes who you are?



p.s. As I pointed out many times, Israel signing the NPT, either when it was created or today, would let them keep their nukes as an existing power. Sorry but your Israel obsession is counter-factual on this one (yet again).
The questions remain.
Why are you so against Iran renewing the JCPOA and undergoing inspections to make sure they don't build the bomb?
Why are you against nuclear treaties and instead arguing for war?
 

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The questions remain.
Why are you so against Iran renewing the JCPOA and undergoing inspections to make sure they don't build the bomb?
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What is the stupidest thing about your claims is that nowhere have I said I'm against a deal. I am against Iran enriching to 60%. I am against Iran having undeclared sites that are a violation of the NPT. I'm concerned that their massive enrichment capacity is in no way compatible with their tiny civilian nuclear power plant.

And to top off the stupidity, the ONLY thing in the way of a deal is Iran's demand that the UN stop investigating the undeclared sites (at least according to the people actually running the talks).

Why are you against nuclear treaties and instead arguing for war?
This is an incredibly offensive lie.
Retract this bullshit or I'll report it to the mods.
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Frankfooter

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What is the stupidest thing about your claims is that nowhere have I said I'm against a deal. I am against Iran enriching to 60%.
The only thing you have argued for in this thread is more sanctions, which would kill the JCPOA.
That is arguing to end the treaty for good.

Your views are very unpopular.

How are your views any different than these?
 

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Pretty typical of what's been going on. The UN condemns Iran's nuclear actions and Iran responds by doing more of what got them criticized. Time for formal UN sanctions again. Nuclear program + violently supressing women's rights advocates + arming Russia sure justify it.
 

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Pretty typical of what's been going on. The UN condemns Iran's nuclear actions and Iran responds by doing more of what got them criticized. Time for formal UN sanctions again. Nuclear program + violently supressing women's rights advocates + arming Russia sure justify it.
So now you back UN resolutions?
I'm sure that means you also back the UN's call for Israel to sign the NPT and give up their nukes.
Not to mention how many other UN and UN SC resolutions that Israel must also abide by.

 

Frankfooter

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Why do you keep making excuses for Iran? Is your Jew hatred so deep that you can't criticize anyone who also shares your Israel obsession?
Make excuses?
I hope that the protests in Iran succeed and bring down the regime.
I also hope that the US and Iran can ignore the outside pressure and sign the NPT.
I also hope that Israel honours UN resolutions, ends apartheid, signs the NPT and dismantles their nukes.
Same arguments.

All you've done for 17 pages here is try to justify more war with Iran because......
 

basketcase

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Make excuses?
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Yes. You keep making excuses for a country to react to criticism by doing more of what they got criticized for.

Iran is enriching to 60% and has responded to UN criticism by increasing their production to 60%. Do you think there is any justification for this?

I also hope that the US and Iran can ignore the outside pressure and sign the NPT.
WTF are you talking about? is this another of your "Israel controls US policy" claims?

Even more stupid is that IRAN chose not to resign the deal and the SOLE REASON Iran demanded the IAEA stop investigating their undeclared nuclear sites which are a clear violation of the NPT.

And your warmongering claims are absolute bullshit and you know it. The only warmongering is your continual sucking up to any group that hates Israel
 

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Yes. You keep making excuses for a country to react to criticism by doing more of what they got criticized for.
Amazing.

You make excuses here every day for Israeli apartheid and then head over to this thread to warmonger for a war on Iran, an Israeli wet dream for decades.
Yet Israel has way more UN resolutions that you make excuses for than Iran.

WTF are you talking about? is this another of your "Israel controls US policy" claims?
OMG!
You still think its some antisemitic conspiracy to report the news.
Amazing.

 

basketcase

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Amazing.

You make excuses here...
Your Jew obsession is tiring.

Do you think there is any peaceful use for Uranium enriched to 60%? Do you think converting a second plant to make 60% in response to UN criticism is positive?

And when will you finally accept that Iran are the ones who refuse to re-join the deal?

OMG!
You still think its some antisemitic conspiracy to report the news.
Amazing.
So where is this news that says Israel made the US stop the JCPOA? I guess you also think that Israel control of the news is the reason why all the news says Iran are the ones refusing to sign. Can't wait to see you dig further into your antisemitic conspiracy theories.
 

Frankfooter

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Your Jew obsession is tiring.
That's an antisemitic trope to say that criticism of Israeli state policy is racist.
You're ignoring the fact that 51% of the people living under Israeli rule are not Jewish.

Do you think there is any peaceful use for Uranium enriched to 60%? Do you think converting a second plant to make 60% in response to UN criticism is positive?
The US says Iran isn't building a bomb.
You and Israel have been claiming they are 3 months away for 2 decades now.


So where is this news that says Israel made the US stop the JCPOA? I guess you also think that Israel control of the news is the reason why all the news says Iran are the ones refusing to sign. Can't wait to see you dig further into your antisemitic conspiracy theories.
From an antisemitic, conspiracy laden Israeli news source, the Times of Israel.
Of course.

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