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yoniluvrca

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This just happened to a female friend of mine. I would like to write a bit about it here with the hope that it helps someone.

First I would like to say the the person, my friend, is not a stupid person. In fact, I would say, that she is well above average in the intelligence department.

The Story: Tonight my friend went on line to check her bank balance. She told me that this is something that she rarely does but for some reason tonight...

On line she found that her balance was zero. There should have been a fairly healthy balance in that account-almost 9000 euros (I live in Europe). It seems that a few weeks ago, when she returned from a trip abroad and was checking her accounts, a message popped up on her screen.

The message said it was from her bank and that they were updating security. The message asked her for private information. She gave that information.

Now I can just hear all the groans. But as I said, this is not a stupid person. She is a very trusting soul and she does not spend time on line nor does she read many news papers. It looked like a message from the bank and it looked like they were trying to help update security.

Very fortunately, the transfer (as it was such a large amount) was on hold. The date that it was to go through is tomorrow morning. She went (after a short freak-out) to the local police station which is just around the corner. They told her the money was gone!!! Nothing to do but fill out a report!!!

Luckily she then phoned another friend who is very computer literate. He came right over and got on line. Within 5 mins. he had found the bank to which the money had been transfered. My friend's bank was closed with no 24 hr support available (in this day & age???).

We got on the phone to the other bank and managed to find a living breathing person. We told him the story.

Now the money is in limbo. It is not in my friend's account but has not been authorized into the other account. The police on that end have been notified. Hopefully the red flag we raised is big enough that it will not go through in the morning.

So I am writing this here to remind everybody to be cautious about internet banking. Never, never give out sensitive, private numbers when solicited. Always check with a live human being first-and even then be careful.

And if you know anyone who banks on line yet does not pay too much attention to news papers etc., remind them of this from time to time.

I know I will from now on.
 

nippleguy

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I also had an experience with TD

Several e-mail transfers were debited from my account last year. They all went to different emails, and they were all amounts under $200.00 This happened over the course of two months, when I checked my web banking, this is when I noticed.

Upon contacting TD bank, I was informed that someone had called in an changed my personal information and set up the email banking (WHICH I had never used)

All of the confirmations of the transfers were going someplace else, and to-date this has still never been resolved, nor has TD Bank given me any of the money back that was removed from my bank.

I can get no explanation other than it was investigated and the file has been closed WTF??

THIS REMINDS ME! CALL TD BANK AGAIN TOMORROW!! :mad:
 

tboy

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This is a good time to bring up the topic of "phishing". Phishing is where they send out an email supposedly from bank x or online payment service such as paypal stating that "your account will be deleted because of an increase in unauthorized transaction". It also tells you you can stop this deletion by signing up and filling out form x. This form is online via a hyperlink and it looks exactly like the original bank page except for one thing: it isn't a secure site preceded by https. In some cases they don't even bother putting the bank's name in the hyperlink.

This is sent out in the same manner as spam. They don't have any or few emails on a list, they just send it out to every possible combination of letters and characters. This is why they call it phishing as in fishing for a sucker that is going to follow the link and give them all your money.

NONE of these emails are from any of the legitimate institutions. If it was, it would be addressed to you by your proper name (in the case of paypal) and would only come from a secure site.

This same rules apply to any popups that occur. As mentioned in the original post the victim filled in everything on a popup which would never be used by a legitimate banking institution.
 

Kommander1975

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nippleguy said:
I also had an experience with TD

Several e-mail transfers were debited from my account last year. They all went to different emails, and they were all amounts under $200.00 This happened over the course of two months, when I checked my web banking, this is when I noticed.

Upon contacting TD bank, I was informed that someone had called in an changed my personal information and set up the email banking (WHICH I had never used)
Avoid TD bank like the plague, they won't help you jacksh*t if your money is stolen from their bank accounts. Look at at what this guy said in another forum:


Hi!
I have a story here and looking for some advice.
I run a company and I have my company account. The card is mine and only mine, nobody knows the pins or anything, the card is always in my wallet.
In July I got ~2500$ worth of unauthorized transactions. I was pissed but I thought my bank would help me here, how wrong was I...
I filed a claim but to my shock it was rejected! I filed another claim explaining everything I could. I even went to one of the stores where one of the transactions happened and got the receipt! Signature was obviously not mine.
That got me nowhere, the bank just says 'sorry, our investigation shows nothing wrong' and they brush me off.
I can't let this happen, 2500$ is a lot of money to just forget about. I did file a report with ombudsman but according to them it will take a month to look into the situation.
Has anyone been in similar situation? What did you do?
I am going to file a small claim against the bank but if that doesn't work I am out of ideas.
Is there anything else I can do? This situation really sucks and I can't believe that I keep my money somewhere thinking it's safe but in reality cash in the pocket would have probably been much safer.

I had my card on me 100% of the time, it's in my wallet, and has never left it.
Spendings were ridiculous, like 130$ at Bulk Barn, how many nuts can one eat? This person also took out maximum allowed in cash from bank machines per day. This happened for two days, pretty smart.
I guess they milked what they could, bought a few things, got some cash and stopped before getting busted (I cought this when I went on the web to pay my CC bill).
At first I thought maybe somehow our accounts got switched for couple of days but then I don't believe anyone has those spending habits. It was fraud.
It goes like this - I took out 60$ at the bank machine and that was my last transaction, right after that whoever else takes out 400$ cash (my limit is 500$ per day) and for the next two days takes out 2500$ worth of cash/debit purchases.
It is TD Bank. I believe the next transaction was minutes after mine. So I took my 60$ and left (I think I was buying something from TRFD ) and right away the other person started using my card.
 

JoyfulC

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Mao Tse Tongue said:
I am terrified of someone looting my bank account for that last $19.54!

Trips to hookers, MP's and the like have at least left me with one less worry. :D
Oh, I know! Last night, I thought I heard a noise downstairs.

I ran down to check my return bottle collection under the sink.

:)

(Tao Te Ching says: "Amass a store of gold and jade, and no one can protect it.")

..c..
 
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