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Interesting read re. Global warming

whitewaterguy

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Dudes...no body gives a shit about global warming anymore...give it up, it's hay-day has come and gone. we are on to much greater, and more popular issues ie; bullying....do you inow anyone who ISNT a victim of bullying these days??? or who doesnt know someone who is bi-polar or ADHD??? c'mon lets get current and drop last decades now dead topics.
 

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Okay, lets try that again.
If that much more CO2's were released into the atmosphere we should have seen at the very least some warming, or at the very worst drastic warming. And yet we see no temperature change whatsoever
Short term memory problems lately, Phil?
From post 69 on this thread:


There are two problems with your theory that there has been no warming in the last 16 years.
First, its wrong.
Second, you do not take into consideration the lag time with CO2 in the atmospher.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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There are two problems with your theory that there has been no warming in the last 16 years.
First, its wrong
No its not wrong. Phil Jones has admitted no warming in last 16 years or so

Second, you do not take into consideration the lag time with CO2 in the atmosphere
Okay, can you explain the science behind this delay?? And can you also please tell us how many years/decades we have until the delay is over and the warming kicks in??
 

groggy

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No its not wrong. Phil Jones has admitted no warming in last 16 years or so


Okay, can you explain the science behind this delay?? And can you also please tell us how many years/decades we have until the delay is over and the warming kicks in??
Phil Jones did not say that, but I expect that even were I to explain to you what he did say you'd continue on with repeating the same claim.
Tell you what, with your obvious belief in your understanding of the science why don't you give it a shot, then I'll correct you when you come up with the wrong reasons. Which I guarantee you will, you're not smart enough to understand it.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Okay, can you explain the science behind this delay?? And can you also please tell us how many years/decades we have until the delay is over and the warming kicks in??
Tell you what, with your obvious belief in your understanding of the science why don't you give it a shot, then I'll correct you when you come up with the wrong reasons. Which I guarantee you will, you're not smart enough to understand it
Thats what I thought. Groggy cant answer my simple question.

I'll repeat it again:

Can you explain the science behind this delay?? And can you also please tell us how many years/decades we have until the delay is over and the warming kicks in??

I'm waiting for a detailed response, groggy
 

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Dudes...no body gives a shit about global warming anymore...give it up, it's hay-day has come and gone. we are on to much greater, and more popular issues ie; bullying....do you inow anyone who ISNT a victim of bullying these days??? or who doesnt know someone who is bi-polar or ADHD??? c'mon lets get current and drop last decades now dead topics.
You usual quality post. Back in your create. Did you change your cargo pants and wash your crocs this week yet?

Don't let Phil see you spelling mistake. He 'll get all pissy.
 

Moviefan-2

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Phil Jones did not say that, but I expect that even were I to explain to you what he did say you`d continue on with repeating the same claim.
According to the article in the original post, Jones did say the Earth had reached a plateau (although he now says 16 years isn`t enough time to know).

Professor Phil Jones, director of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, who found himself at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ scandal over leaked emails three years ago, would not normally be expected to agree with her. Yet on two important points, he did.

The data does suggest a plateau, he admitted, and without a major El Nino event – the sudden, dramatic warming of the southern Pacific which takes place unpredictably and always has a huge effect on global weather – ‘it could go on for a while’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html

What I find interesting is Jones` assertion that we don`t know what the climate is doing.

Like Prof Curry, Prof Jones also admitted that the climate models were imperfect: ‘We don’t fully understand how to input things like changes in the oceans, and because we don’t fully understand it you could say that natural variability is now working to suppress the warming. We don’t know what natural variability is doing.’
Hmm.

Back in April, I started a rather controversial thread that cited James Lovelock saying we don`t know what the climate is doing (https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...dmits-we-don-t-know-what-the-climate-is-doing). In response, I was accused of being a Creationist-like member of the Flat Earth Society who doesn`t know a thing about science.

Now that Phil Jones is saying the same thing, I wonder if he and the others at the IPCC are also Creationist-like members of the Flat Earth Society who don`t know a thing about science? :D
 

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I agree.http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-m...rs-to-the-annual-land-only-european-average-2
It's pretty much a dead issue -- even so-called progressives like Barack Obama don't really care about it anymore.
He doesn't? How so?

What struck me from the initial read of the report id the choice of '16' years to track, not a more conventional 10, 15, or 20. I guess they need to cherry pick the best years to make their opinion stand. On a longer time line it's not unusual to to a 10/15 year anomaly. on a longer time line, say 150/250 years, the trend is definitely up. Records show that 1998, 2010, and 2012 were there of the hottest years of record. If you look a the trend on a dec ade by decade basis, the trend id definitely up for many decades.

 

Phil C. McNasty

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You usual quality post. Back in your create. Did you change your cargo pants and wash your crocs this week yet?

Don't let Phil see you spelling mistake. He 'll get all pissy
Its okay, I'll just focus on your spelling mistakes instead

Your usual quality post. Back in your crate. Did you change your cargo pants and wash your crocs this week yet?

Don't let Phil see you spelling mistake. He'll get all pissy
 

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He doesn't? How so?
Donors had to put the squeeze on Obama to get him to even mention the issue at the Democratic convention:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-election/obama-being-pressed-to-respond-on-climate-20120904

Meanwhile, a look at the overall content of the speeches at the convention found it was virtually a non-issue for Democrats.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/06/c...on-it-once-in-over-80-speeches-over-two-days/

And, of course, Al Gore was nowhere to be seen at the convention.

Gore's evolution over the past four years — from a central figure in the Democratic Party to a no-show at its biggest event — matches what has happened to the issue of climate change itself, which moved to the sidelines alongside its chief crusader, environmentalists and some Democrats say.

It's not like Gore hasn't noticed — and his frustration with Obama has been on display. He's leveled criticism at Obama for abandoning the push for a climate change bill. He accused him of failing to use the bully pulpit to spread the word about the dangers of rising global temperatures. And he faulted Obama for putting off tough new smog regulations.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...ent-at-democratic-national-convention/1249843
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Donors had to put the squeeze on Obama to get him to even mention the issue at the Democratic convention:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-election/obama-being-pressed-to-respond-on-climate-20120904

Meanwhile, a look at the overall content of the speeches at the convention found it was virtually a non-issue for Democrats.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/06/c...on-it-once-in-over-80-speeches-over-two-days/

And, of course, Al Gore was nowhere to be seen at the convention.



http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...ent-at-democratic-national-convention/1249843
People generally arent good at admitting they've been tricked
 

blackrock13

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Donors had to put the squeeze on Obama to get him to even mention the issue at the Democratic convention:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-election/obama-being-pressed-to-respond-on-climate-20120904

Meanwhile, a look at the overall content of the speeches at the convention found it was virtually a non-issue for Democrats.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/06/c...on-it-once-in-over-80-speeches-over-two-days/

And, of course, Al Gore was nowhere to be seen at the convention.



http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...ent-at-democratic-national-convention/1249843
'Virtually' a non issue?

Al Gore was much the same like Cheney, Bush and Steele. As I said earlier Gore is yesterday's man. It's much bigger than him now. If Obama didn't care about the environment why did he make a decision that was quite unpopular regarding the pipeline?
 
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