Interesting dismissal at the CBC.......
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To think Jian could have just gone quietly, but I think his aggressive attempt to frame the story in advance with his Facebook post his spectacularly backfired… it was practically an open invitation for the women he abused to come forward, and now he is getting absolutely destroyed via social media and the court of public opinion.
Dan Savage, who I think it’s safe to say it’s pretty open about all matters sexual, has an interview with a previous Ghomeshi girlfriend who wanted to go on the record to defend him, but even her detailed account in many ways only serves to corroborate the stories of others who received similar treatment but were obviously less enthusiastic about it.
Savage, like many others, feels Ghomeshi is using the cover of BDSM to excuse straight up abuse:
this isn't about some poor persecuted pervert...but about either an abuser hiding behind the BDSM scene's culture of consent (and a celebrity leveraging his fame and power) or it's about a sociopath who believes that initiating violent sex is the same thing as asking for consent to violent sex.
The whole thing is here:
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/ar...rviews-with-two-women-who-dated-jian-ghomeshi
Dan Savage, who I think it’s safe to say it’s pretty open about all matters sexual, has an interview with a previous Ghomeshi girlfriend who wanted to go on the record to defend him, but even her detailed account in many ways only serves to corroborate the stories of others who received similar treatment but were obviously less enthusiastic about it.
Savage, like many others, feels Ghomeshi is using the cover of BDSM to excuse straight up abuse:
this isn't about some poor persecuted pervert...but about either an abuser hiding behind the BDSM scene's culture of consent (and a celebrity leveraging his fame and power) or it's about a sociopath who believes that initiating violent sex is the same thing as asking for consent to violent sex.
The whole thing is here:
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/ar...rviews-with-two-women-who-dated-jian-ghomeshi
It's beginning to appear pretty clear that all this is about a dude who's into hate fucking, doesn't see anything wrong with it (which there might not be, depending on who you ask), but doesn't actually understand the concept of "consent"..
It sounds like several (if not most) of these women were willing to engage in some level of sex with him, but weren't necessarily willing participants in the violent behaviour that he considered a necessary part of sex (at least for him).. I can see how many women might not consider this rape (or assume that others wouldn't), and fail to report it as a result..
Long story short.. This just sounds like another self obsessed dude who doesn't understand that a failure to say "No" doesn't mean "Yes".. This guy just happens to be mildly famous and into hate fucking..
It sounds like several (if not most) of these women were willing to engage in some level of sex with him, but weren't necessarily willing participants in the violent behaviour that he considered a necessary part of sex (at least for him).. I can see how many women might not consider this rape (or assume that others wouldn't), and fail to report it as a result..
Long story short.. This just sounds like another self obsessed dude who doesn't understand that a failure to say "No" doesn't mean "Yes".. This guy just happens to be mildly famous and into hate fucking..
I should add that I think that Mr. Ghomeshi probably really believes he had the consent of all these women to engage in the behaviour that he did.. Guys like this are always astonished to discover that the women who went along silently with their violent behaviour (be it physical, mental, or emotional violence), often view them as villains..
A field day? Most people at the CBC just wish this whole scandal would quietly go away. The only one having a field day and enjoying it all is the fuckstick Haper appointed to run the broadcaster into the ground.
They're not treating it as a parody account in the media:I thought it might be, but what about the dates??
Since Sunday’s firing of Mr. Ghomeshi, scandal-watchers also discovered a Twitter account, @BigEarsTeddy, with accusations against the host dating back to April.
“Hi there Jian Ghomeshi. Remember louring me to ur house under false pretences? Bruises dont lie. Signed, every female Carleton U media grad,” reads an April 9 post.
The account’s name refers to a large teddy bear in his home that Mr. Ghomeshi allegedly turned around to face the wall before assaulting his dates, saying, according to the Star‘s account, “Big Ears Teddy shouldn’t see this.”
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/1...eshi-slapped-and-choked-her-at-his-apartment/
Here's Ghomeshi himself explaining his relationship with his Teddy Bear "Big Ears"....
In a talk in Stratford, Ont., on July 5, Ghomeshi said he bought Big Ears after his therapist suggested it would help him through anxious times.
A replacement for a childhood toy, the teddy bear became a constant companion, even in adulthood.
“Big Ears has played a really important role in my life, because I have a general anxiety disorder,” Ghomeshi said at the time.
Ghomeshi told the Stratford audience the bear was perhaps odd, and somewhat embarrassing but ultimately an effective safety net for him.
“The idea is taking solace in not being alone,” said Ghomeshi.
“Everyone is neurotic,” he added. “My idols are neurotic ... Successful, talented creative people, in my experience I’ve discovered, are all either neurotic or insecure or freaked out in some way or another.”
He received a standing ovation from the crowd and as artistic director Antoni Cimolino urged him out for a curtain call, Ghomeshi turned to him and said: “If only Big Ears could see this.”
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/10/3...portant-role-in-life-jian-ghomeshi-told-crowd
In a talk in Stratford, Ont., on July 5, Ghomeshi said he bought Big Ears after his therapist suggested it would help him through anxious times.
A replacement for a childhood toy, the teddy bear became a constant companion, even in adulthood.
“Big Ears has played a really important role in my life, because I have a general anxiety disorder,” Ghomeshi said at the time.
Ghomeshi told the Stratford audience the bear was perhaps odd, and somewhat embarrassing but ultimately an effective safety net for him.
“The idea is taking solace in not being alone,” said Ghomeshi.
“Everyone is neurotic,” he added. “My idols are neurotic ... Successful, talented creative people, in my experience I’ve discovered, are all either neurotic or insecure or freaked out in some way or another.”
He received a standing ovation from the crowd and as artistic director Antoni Cimolino urged him out for a curtain call, Ghomeshi turned to him and said: “If only Big Ears could see this.”
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/10/3...portant-role-in-life-jian-ghomeshi-told-crowd
I have to agree. In his mind when they agreed to go out with him IT WAS CONSENT. When they said nothing because they feared for their own safety, IT WAS CONSENT. I'm not convinced he didn't hear the words "STOP" or "NO" a few times. He most likely thought it was part of the game. What really pisses many off is that he is using BDSM as a means to justify assaulting women.
Rot in hell Ghomeshi.
Fine, but what I can't understand for the life of me, is why that actress on Trailer Park Boys who dated him, didn't go to the police after the assault?
He's not her employer or a gangster who might instill fear in her or threaten her job/life.
Is it because he at the time was a famous radio host who had more credibility than she did, if she talked? (One would think that she would tell the cops to keep it private, so it wouldn't be publicized). She would have the force of the authorities and public prosecutor on her side. She wouldn't have to hire a lawyer.
Is it because after the fact, she had no bruises or physical proof to make a case?
I don't understand. Can someone shed some light.
OK, but what about that TPBs actress? She already had a career in the arts. Why didn't she go to the cops and quietly file an assault case?
I understand, but your friend was fearful of her life - that he might somehow elude the cops or visit her while on bail pending a trial, and beat her to death.
Is this the same kind of fear with Ghomeshie? I don't think so, or is it?
When I saw CTV news last night report on that Trailer Park Boys actress' experience, I also said "He's toast".
He's finished.
.... which begs the question. Is his lawyer incompetent or did he not listen to him/her? I agree that his FB post didn't help.
