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Still making excuses for terrorists who reject the possibility of peace because they don't want Jews in the region? It is dumb to claim that Hamas are victims.

And do you want Israel to impose peace on Hamas and the PA against their wishes?
Yeah, I want Israel to unilaterally either give back the occupied territories entirely or give Palestinians equal rights.
Unilatlerally.

Israel are the only ones that can end this by choice.

Otherwise it'll be BDS.

Israel’s settler-colonial occupation and apartheid needs to be dismantled: UN special rapporteur
The report by UN special rapporteur Francesca Albanese states that the world has failed to hold Israel accountable for its continued violations of international human rights laws and its apartheid policies in the occupied Palestinian territories


And YOUR criticism is antisemitic in it's obsessive nature, double standard, your justifying attacks on Jewish civilians who 'dare' set foot on 'Palestinian land', suggest Canadian and American Jews are really Israeli agents, denying Jews the right to self determination while demanding it for Palestinians, and saying Canadian Jews are valid targets for protest about Israel.
Why do you post such obvious lies?
Where have I said anything about anyone 'daring' to step anywhere?
Stop making up shit and just deal with the apartheid you support.

Stop supporting apartheid.
Its horrid and its racist.
You know better.
 

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Yeah, I want Israel to unilaterally either give back the occupied territories entirely or give Palestinians equal rights.
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So you admit that you demand Israel unilaterally enforce peace against the will of Palestinians. Thanks for confirming that. Of course you will scream and yell if Israel does it. And there is no "back". Israel took the land from Jordan and Jordan ceded it in their peace deal. Before that it was British and before that Ottoman.

If you weren't a racist with an anti-semitic double standard, you'd have at least some criticism for Hamas being a racist, oppressive group that rejects any concept of peace and calls for ethnic cleansing.

p.s. Your definition of "obvious lies" clearly means thing you've done and been called on. You have repeatedly said Jews have no right to be in the West Bank while also pretending to support equal rights just like you have repeatedly claimed Hamas terrorism and war crimes were really self defence. You have claimed that vandalism and protests targeting Jewish owned businesses was a good thing and have repeatedly stated that self-determination is racist if it's Jews but essential human rights for Palestinians.
 

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Anti jewish terrorist rally in Brussels

anti-jewish terror activists marched across Brussels shouting violent slogans, wearing terrorist organization headbands and carrying posters glorifying terrorist figures on Saturday as part of the "March for Return and Liberation for Palestine." Similar protests also took place in other locations worldwide.

"The march demanded the implementation of return for Palestinian refugees expelled from their homes and homeland since the Nakba, the total liberation of all of Palestine from the river to the sea, stood in firm support of the Palestinian people and their Resistance [sic], called for the freedom of the prisoners and the defeat of Zionism, imperialism and the forces collaborating with them," the NGO Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network, one of the organizing groups said in a statement on Sunday.


Samidoun is alleged by the Israeli government to be a front for the the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), recognized as a terrorist organization.

In videos of the event, some participants shouted slogans calling on people to throw rocks or shouting for the use of "bullets and rockets." One prominently displayed banner depicted the launch of rockets. Such projectiles are often fired by Gazan terrorist organizations into Israel.

Support for terrorism on full display
Terrorist paraphernalia was readily apparent in the footage. Some marchers wore headbands showing allegiance to Lions' Den, a terrorist group that has been responsible for several recent terrorist attacks and battles with IDF soldiers.

"Participants saluted the Palestinian resistance, including Mohammed Deif, leader of the Palestinian armed resistance in Gaza, and the resistance movements in Nablus, Jenin and throughout occupied Palestine, emphasizing the legitimacy and leadership of the Palestinian resistance," said Samidoun. Deif is a leader of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas.

One poster depicted a gunman with a Carlo submachine pistol, a firearm favored by Palestinian terrorists. Other banners and poster carried by activists portrayed slain or imprisoned terrorist figures, calling for the release of the latter. These included PFLP secretary-general Ahmad Sa’adat, PFLP member and Lebanese Revolutionary Armed Factions co-founder Georges Abdallah, and French-Palestinian lawyer Salah Hammouri. On Tuesday the PFLP listed Hammouri as a member of the terrorist organization on their website.

"Posters and images of George Habash, the founder of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine [PFLP]; Shadia Abu Ghazaleh, a leader in Palestinian women’s resistance through armed struggle; and Houcine Benyahia, a Moroccan revolutionary martyr who fought for Palestinian liberation, were raised high alongside those of Palestinian prisoners struggling for liberation," said Samidoun.

"Marchers remembered the Palestinian and Arab leaders who had been targeted for assassination, particularly in Europe, for their leadership in the liberation struggle, from Mahmoud Hamshari and Basil al-Kubeisi to Fathi Shiqaqi, the founder of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement."

In August, Israel fought a short conflict with Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza.

The march, which according to Samidoun was endorsed by over 100 groups, was organized by Palestinian Alternative Revolutionary Path Movement, also known as Masar Badil.

Masar Badil is led by Khaled Barakat, who is alleged by Israel to be a leader of the PFLP terrorist organization. Barakat has been the subject of controversy in Canada, where he lives, since a National Post expose on him in early May which explored his alleged connections to both the PFLP and to the allegedly PFLP affiliated Samidoun — Of which his wife Charlotte Kates is also a senior member.

Similar event held in Canada
Barakat and Kates were set to attend the march, but were stopped in the Netherlands and deported. The Royal Netherlands Marechaussee told The Jerusalem Post that it could not comment on the case due to privacy reasons.

"Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network condemns the deportation of Khaled Barakat and Charlotte Kates, and calls on all supporters of Palestine to defend the right to struggle for return and liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea, and participating in the Week of Return and Liberation," said Samidoun on Tuesday.

Unable to attend in Brussels, Kates led a sister march in Vancouver, Canada.

“It is deeply concerning that despite its overt ties to terror, Samidoun continues to be able to operate freely as a not-for-profit in Canada," said Shimon Koffler Fogel, President and CEO of the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA).

"That Barakat was slated to promote the founder of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a Canadian-listed terrorist entity, at an event featuring PFLP posters, combined with countless other instances of glorifying terrorists and inciting to violence should be more than enough to warrant action. We reiterate our calls to Public Safety to investigate and list Samidoun as a terrorist entity.”


 

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So you admit that you demand Israel unilaterally enforce peace against the will of Palestinians.
I love that you think ending the occupation and apartheid rule would go 'against the will of the Palestinians'.
Glad to have you here as their personal spokesperson.

BDS.
That's what BDS wants and that's what Palestinian's want.
End of the occupation and end of apartheid, that is supported by 80% of Palestinians through support of BDS.
So deal with it.

If you weren't a racist with an anti-semitic double standard, you'd have at least some criticism for Hamas being a racist, oppressive group that rejects any concept of peace and calls for ethnic cleansing.
Why do I need to please you by equivocating between a nuclear armed, apartheid, settler colonial state and a group living inside the world's largest open air prison?
Take them both to the ICC and let them sort out who is the biggest terrorist and war criminals.

p.s. Your definition of "........but essential human rights for Palestinians.
Its not worth my time responding to such obvious bullshit.
If you can discuss this honestly, go ahead.
 

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I love that you think ending the occupation and apartheid rule would go 'against the will of the Palestinians'.
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I love how you completely ignore what Palestinians want. They overwhelmingly oppose a One State peace and a slight majority oppose a Two State peace. There are no Palestinian leaders who endorse a One State peace and many factions including Hamas reject any permanent peace that allows Jews to live in the region with full rights.

Yet you still demand Israel force a One State solution onto Palestinians. That is a stupidly hypocritical view.

And you keep pushing BDS even though they don't support any peace proposal and many actual democracies (including Canada) have condemned them as being counterproductive and a home for racists.

Do you think Palestinians are incapable of being responsible for their own choices or is it just you support anything you think will harm Israeli Jews? No don't answer; keep running away and making the most asinine strawmen because you know your stated morals are completely inconsistent with your actual views.
 

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p.s. How often has the PA or Hamas arrested Palestinians for attacks on Jews?



And you might note that even Israeli news calls these guys terrorists, just like they refer to Palestinians who do similar things as terrorists.
 

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I love how you completely ignore what Palestinians want. They overwhelmingly oppose a One State peace and a slight majority oppose a Two State peace. There are no Palestinian leaders who endorse a One State peace and many factions including Hamas reject any permanent peace that allows Jews to live in the region with full rights.
I love how you claim to know what Palestinians want yet are so incredibly clueless.
One and two state solutions both poll about 30-37% these days.
BDS has the support of 80% of Palestinians.

Palestinians support BDS, sanctions and boycotts to end apartheid.
I support what Palestinians want.

You support apartheid.

p.s. How often has the PA or Hamas arrested Palestinians for attacks on Jews?
One arrest is 1% of reported settler terrorism in a 10 day period.
Hardly a stellar record that proves Israel does anything besides white wash.

Now that Ben-Gvir, leader of a party of settler terrorists, now holds the balance of power after this election.
Israel is officially a terrorist government.
Congrats.

 

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I love how you claim to know what Palestinians want ...
Yes, I read the polls and I read statements from their politicians. You should try it instead of dismissing them as beneath you.
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No matter how many percent of militant settlers get arrested by Israel for their terrorism, that is mathematically an infinite amount more than the PA or Hamas have never arrested anyone for attacks on Jewish civilians. Instead the PA pays salaries to convicted terrorists, pays condolence calls to family of those killed during their attacks, and names municipal buildings after them. And then there's Hamas who is the organization behind many of the attacks themselves who instead focus their justice system of Palestinians who had a zoom call with Israelis about working towards peace.


And speaking of listening to Palestinian politicians, this guy is a hoot.

"Fatah official Jibril Rajoub says election result shows Israel has ‘fallen into the swamps of fascism,’ "
Considering the PA hasn't had an election in a couple decades and arrests people for making fun of their president, I guess he knows all about fascist governance. Israel has moved some percentage that way in this election but the PA is already at 100% and Hamas makes the PA look like amateurs.
 

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Yes, I read the polls and I read statements from their politicians. You should try it instead of dismissing them as beneath you.
I quoted those numbers to you, basketcase.
Then referred to another poll showing 80% support for BDS, which makes BDS way more popular than your choice.
Yet you keep trying to force a choice Palestinians don't want and know can't happen,.


No matter how many percent of militant settlers get arrested by Israel for their terrorism, that is mathematically an infinite amount more than the PA or Hamas have never arrested anyone for attacks on Jewish civilians. Instead the PA pays salaries to convicted terrorists, pays condolence calls to family of those killed during their attacks, and names municipal buildings after them. And then there's Hamas who is the organization behind many of the attacks themselves who instead focus their justice system of Palestinians who had a zoom call with Israelis about working towards peace.
This is too racist to even bother with replying.

And speaking of listening to Palestinian politicians, this guy is a hoot.

"Fatah official Jibril Rajoub says election result shows Israel has ‘fallen into the swamps of fascism,’ "
Quite a few people are identifying Ben-Gvir as fascist/racist/terrorist.
Canada recognizes his party as terrorists.

But that's 'a hoot' for you?
Wow.

Settler reveals Ben-Gvir involvement in terrorist attacks against Palestinians
 

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I quoted those numbers to you, basketcase.
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Yet you still want to force Palestinians into something they hate and demand Israel unilaterally force a peace deal upon them. Ridiculous hypocrisy at it's best.

What is your opinion on almost half of Palestinians supporting attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel?



And yes, Ben Gvir is a racist authoritarian wannabe. Thankfully he's not in charge of the country. And of course you're so upset about some Israeli politician with a somewhat fringe following without mentioning a word about the authoritarian PA and the outright racist Hamas terrorists.

Prominent Israelis have spoken out against this right-wing turn. There are Palestinians who speak out against their fascist governments but...





p.s. I love the way you run away from your insane moral inconsistency by just claiming it is racist. To you, racism is simply facts you don't like.
 
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Yet you still want to force Palestinians into something they hate
82.8% of Palestinians support BDS.
How do you claim that is something they 'hate'?

What is your opinion on almost half of Palestinians supporting attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel?
This is just more of your attempts to label all Palestinians as 'terrorist' in order to justify attacks on them.
If you want to end the violence, end apartheid and end the occupation.

And yes, Ben Gvir is a racist authoritarian wannabe.
He leads a party that Canada labels as 'terrorist', a party with the third largest voting block.
Again, you claim to be against 'terrorism' but here you are defending a party Canada labels 'terrorist'.

Prominent Israelis have spoken out against this right-wing turn. There are Palestinians who speak out against their fascist governments but...
Just as prominent Israelis have spoken out about apartheid, yet you ignore them.
How is this different?
 

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You're the only one whining about BDS despite most Western democracies calling them out as counterproductive and a hiding spot for racists.

Palestinians HATE a One State solution. They oppose a Two State peace a little less. Their leaders in the PA completely reject a One State peace and have kept walking away from Two State talks. their leaders in Hamas reject any kind of peace and are open their goal is the elimination of the Jewish presence.


This is just more of your attempts to label all Palestinians as 'terrorist' in order to justify attacks on them
So it's racist to listen when 45% of Palestinians say they support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel"? I would think that you being such a strong crusader for peace and human rights would look at that statement and agree with me it's not a good thing.


p.s. Back to your claims about Ben Gvir being a terrorist? He may be but Canada DOES NOT consider his party a terrorist organization. Neither Otzma Yehudit nor his coalition partners Religious Zionism are on that list. You know who is? Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, and factions of Fatah. More of your racist double standard backed by easily disproven lies.

I'm sure you're going to argue that his party shares some views of Kach but if you want to use that standard, then the entire PA shares some views with terrorists. That logic would mean 10% of Israeli politicians are terrorists while 100% of Palestinian autocrats are.
 

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You're the only one whining about BDS despite most Western democracies calling them out as counterproductive and a hiding spot for racists.
I don't 'whine' about BDS, that's your job while you're backing the racists elected to Israel's government.
82.8% of Palestinians support BDS.

Palestinians HATE a One State solution. They oppose a Two State peace a little less. Their leaders in the PA completely reject a One State peace and have kept walking away from Two State talks. their leaders in Hamas reject any kind of peace and are open their goal is the elimination of the Jewish presence.
Stop pretending you speak for Palestinians.
You speak for the illegal, apartheid occupation.

82.8% of Palestinians support Boycotts, Divestment and Sanctions.
Its the only way to end apartheid now.


p.s. Back to your claims about Ben Gvir being a terrorist? He may be but Canada DOES NOT consider his party a terrorist organization. Neither Otzma Yehudit nor his coalition partners Religious Zionism are on that list. You know who is? Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, and factions of Fatah. More of your racist double standard backed by easily disproven lies.

I'm sure you're going to argue that his party shares some views of Kach but if you want to use that standard, then the entire PA shares some views with terrorists. That logic would mean 10% of Israeli politicians are terrorists while 100% of Palestinian autocrats are.
The NDP are against Israeli apartheid.
The CBC just presented this spot on Ben-Gvir.

Ben-Gvir is a Kahanist.

 

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I don't 'whine' about BDS, that's your job while you're backing the racists elected to Israel's government.
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Sure you do, even though BDS doesn't support any peace plan or equal rights.

And I don't speak for Palestinians but unlike you I'm not going to either lie about what they say or demand they do what I want.

Things you want to ignore.
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To add, neither the PA nor Hamas accept the idea you demand Israel force them into.


Ben Gvir is a Kahanist and a racist but not a member of Kach as far as I'm aware. Hamas are racists a designated terrorist entity and so is a faction of Fatah but you have never even hinted at criticism of them for it.

So why does a fringe Israeli racist get your condemnation but not mainstream racists in Palestinian leadership?
 

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Sure you do, even though BDS doesn't support any peace plan or equal rights.

And I don't speak for Palestinians but unlike you I'm not going to either lie about what they say or demand they do what I want.

Things you want to ignore.
Abbas is as popular with Palestinians as Netanyahu.
BDS has the support of 82.8% of Palestinians.

Your fixation on the one or two state solutions just identifies you as old and unable to change.
The two state solution is long dead.
End apartheid.


 

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next on anti-jewish terrorist files....



Israel-designated terror group representative calls for destruction of US, EU in Brussels


(November 6, 2022 / JNS) Not only Israel, but also the United States, Canada and the European Union must be conquered, a top representative of an Israel-designated terror group said at a recent event in Brussels.

“Defeating Israel means defeating the United States. Defeating Israel means defeating Canada. These settlements [that] exist on the back of the indigenous people and the black people,” said Mohammed Khatib, the E.U. coordinator for the Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network.


He made the comments at a rally outside of the E.U. Parliament during the Oct. 29 “March for Return and Liberation,” planned by the Masar Badil, or Palestinian Alternative Revolutionary Path Movement.

“Defeating Israel means defeating this colonial institution [the E.U. legislature]. It means payback for all Africans … second and third generations [who] are in Brussels. We’ve built this city and we still face fascism and racism. So, we will say no to this not only in Palestine [sic], but here in Europe, there in the United States and in all Arab countries,” Khatib added.


 

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Abbas is as popular with Palestinians as Netanyahu.
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Netanyahu at least is subject to elections.

Your fixation on the one or two state solutions just identifies you as old and unable to change.
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What other option is there? I guess a federalized state is a possibility. Like the others, that would require a negotiated agreement between the sides, not an imposed peace like you pretend you want Israel to do.

You have endlessly been pushing Jews and Palestinians living together with equal rights which is the exact definition of a One State peace, even though Palestinians hate the idea. No Palestinians leaders promote that idea but in your racist elitism and desire to see Israel eliminated, you still demand something that no one involved wants.

Could it be that your vision of peace is the same as Hamas, a land ethnically cleansed of Jews?
 

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“Defeating Israel means defeating the United States. Defeating Israel means defeating Canada. These settlements [that] exist on the back of the indigenous people and the black people,” said Mohammed Khatib, the E.U. coordinator for the Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network.
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In all his comments on Jews being 'settlers' frank seems quite happy to ignore that Canada is explicitly a settler state (and that Jews are indigenous to the Middle East).
 
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In all his comments on Jews being 'settlers' frank seems quite happy to ignore that Canada is explicitly a settler state (and that Jews are indigenous to the Middle East).
Except in Canada we've had the truth and reconciliation and natives here have full human rights, including being allowed to vote.
Canada has come to terms with its colonial settler past.
Israel is still actively colonizing and settling what should have been Palestine.

You really don't see a difference, do you?

Netanyahu at least is subject to elections.
True, there is no vote for the government that rules them for most Palestinians.
We know why, demographics.
You can never support democracy inside Israel since you know who is the minority now,.


Could it be that your vision of peace is the same as Hamas, a land ethnically cleansed of Jews?
Could it be that in your backing of settler colonialism that you are projecting your fantasy on others?
I back BDS and the end of apartheid.
Nobody should be ethnically cleansed anywhere, basketcase.
Keep your creepy thoughts to yourself.

Support the end of settler colonialism.
Support the end of apartheid.

 

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Except in Canada we've had the truth and reconciliation and natives here have full human rights, including being allowed to vote.
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I see. Canadian window dressing is enough for you to ignore that Canada is explicitly a settler state. Nice.

And Israeli Arabs are 20% of the population and they have as much rights as any other citizen. West Bank and Gaza Palestinians don't want to be Israeli but as usual, you don't care what Palestinians want as you made clear in the quote below.

Yeah, I want Israel to unilaterally either give back the occupied territories entirely or give Palestinians equal rights.
Unilatlerally...

But you are right about Palestinians not being allowed to vote for their government but that is 100% because Hamas and the PA refuse to do so; you know, the fascism you were referring to earlier.

My vision is a negotiated peace between the people involved. You have stated you are against that. You are such a great advocate for Palestinians rights when you demand their opinions get ignored and demand Israel decide what peace should look like.
 
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