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Only the ones engaged in attacks on civilians or police. I know you love complaining that Israel kills people engaged in terror attacks but that is just another case where you love justifying violence against Jewish civilians.
Israel regularly kills 10x the number of civilians as Palestinians kill.

Israel, as the apartheid military occupying power, is killing people for protesting the occupation and apartheid.
Then you come on here and say Israel is justified in killing Palestinians who protest apartheid and the occupation and then complain that its Hamas that's the root cause of the occupation and apartheid.

The apartheid occupation is the root cause of the occupation.
 

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Students for Justice in Palestine anti-jewish, and support and apologists for terrorists


New report exposes SJP’s methods of intimidating Jewish students at Cornell

New report exposes SJP’s methods of intimidating Jewish students at Cornell (jns.org)




Overview
Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) is an anti-Israel student organization engaged in activity on North American college and university campuses.

SJP organizes anti-Israel campaigns, including running the annual Israel Apartheid Week (IAW), often in collaboration with Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and Muslim Students Association (MSA) campus chapters.

The group has been a major force in pushing the anti-Semitic Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement on campus. Chapters have proposed dozens of BDS resolutions to student governments, including proposing them on or around Jewish holidays when Jewish students are off-campus.

Activists have intimidated and harassed Jewish and pro-Israel students and aggressively disrupted pro-Israel campus events.

Chapters have endorsed and campaigned for numerous terrorists and promoted the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) terrorist organization. Chapters have also whitewashed terrorism, compared Zionists to Nazis and demonized pro-Israel campus organizations.

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Students For Justice In Palestine - Canary Mission
 

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I still don't understand how someone who self identifies as black on this board can defend apartheid.
As Jewish Voices for Peace says about Canary Mission.

Jewish Voice for Peace unequivocally condemns Canary Mission, a malicious website that seeks to vilify principled activists for Palestinian human rights with targeted campaigns of misinformation, bigotry and slander.

We reject the notion, propagated by Canary Mission and similar organizations, that there is anything shameful, hateful, or anti-Semitic about organizing for Palestinian rights on campus. Antisemitism and criticism of Israel are not the same, and Canary Mission targets students and faculty because they criticize Israel – not because they have expressed anti-Jewish bias. We especially emphasize that labeling support for the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement as “pro-terrorist” is a false assertion. And we commend the brave and principled students and faculty who continue to organize in the face of intimidation and repression.



 

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White Supremacists and SJP share some disturbingly similar views of the Holocaust. The content is shocking, you may want to pause the video to get to grips with what you’re reading.




Same ideology, historically tied up. It goes back to Grand Mufti Al Husseini, Hitler's ally, then through 1950s when Hitler's favorite Skorzeny trained Pal terrorists in Egypt (where Arafat started his career), and to our time - with Hitler store in Gaza and swastika flags flown on violent riots.
 

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Same ideology, historically tied up. It goes back to Grand Mufti Al Husseini, Hitler's ally, then through 1950s when Hitler's favorite Skorzeny trained Pal terrorists in Egypt (where Arafat started his career), and to our time - with Hitler store in Gaza and swastika flags flown on violent riots.
I don't care about your racist youtube posts, CM.
If your views are only on extremist videos and not backed up by agencies like Amnesty or HRW, then they're nonsense.
Even 25% of US Jews say Israel is apartheid, 22% think Israel is committing genocide and 34% say you are backing racism like US treatment of black Americans.
 

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MUST WATCH Video: Ayah Ali verbally harassed a Holocaust survivor. No surprise that:
- she supports the GENOCIDE of Jews
- her FATHER shares David Duke conspiracy theories
- she’s a BOARD MEMBER of the antisemitic Benedictine SJP

 

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Israel regularly kills...
If they are killed in the act of attacking civilians or police then there is nothing illegal about it. But keep on pretending that Israel is evil for killing attackers.


And your efforts to excuse Palestinian leadership and those civilians that support attacks on civilians is disgusting.
 

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I still don't understand how someone...
I still don;t get why someone who claims to support Palestinian rights ignores what Palestinians want and treats them as infants incapable of being responsible for their own actions.
 

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I still don;t get why someone who claims to support Palestinian rights ignores what Palestinians want and treats them as infants incapable of being responsible for their own actions.
I don't get why you want to blame Palestinians for getting angry at living under apartheid and military occupation, while Israel still is actively settling and colonizing their lands.

 

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If they are killed in the act of attacking civilians or police then there is nothing illegal about it.
Israel used snipers and killed 200 protesters and injured 14,000 more, including women, children, medics and journalists.
Yet you claim they were 'attacking civilians' and there is nothing illegal about shooting protesters who were marching for basic human rights.

This is what you keep defending.

 

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I don't get why you want to blame Palestinians for getting angry at living under apartheid and military occupation, while Israel still is actively settling and colonizing their lands.
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I blame the ones who conduct and praise attacks on civilians from a racist perspective. Do you think that Palestinians aren't capable of being upset about what is going on without engaging in violence against civilians?


And I blame the people who justify Palestinian attacks on civilians pretending that being one of many military occupations in the world justifies murder.

Pathetic that you continue promoting racist conspiracy theories that say Jews are desecrating a shared holy site simply by their presence. And you never explained how your alleged support for equal rights equates with you demanding Jews hot being allowed to visit despite what the Jordanian WAQF says.
 

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I blame the ones who conduct and praise attacks on civilians from a racist perspective.
Then blame the apartheid occupation of Palestine and the ongoing settler colonialism.
Blame the Israeli government that backs mobs shouting 'death to Arabs' with their army.
Blame the Israeli government that sends the IDF to defend mobs of 'settlers' as they steal, terrorize and colonize Palestinian lands.
Blame the government that is forcing 2 million people to live in the world's largest open air prison at near starvation levels.
Blame the government that elected members of a party that Canada has declared as 'terrorists'.

Stop blaming the victims.
 
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And still you keep trying to justify terrorism, rejection of peace, and racism.
The terrorism is coming mostly from Israel, from the IDF and racist mobs of settlers.
There is no peace and has been no peace for over half a century.
The racism is systematic, Israel is apartheid.

Blame the apartheid occupation for committing most of the terrorism, racism and for the lack of peace.
Not the victims.
 

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more terror apologists hiding behind the Palestinian People



A group of pro-Palestinian protesters chanted anti-Israel slogans like “Long live the Intifada” and “We want all ‘48” in front the Consulate General of Israel in Los Angeles on April 21.

The protest was billed as a rally to “Defend Al-Aqsa” and “Defend Gaza.” There has been ongoing clashes between Israeli authorities and Palestinian rioters at the Al-Aqsa; the Israel Defense Force also struck various Hamas locations in retaliation for rocket fire launched from the Gaza Strip toward Sderot on the evening of April 20. Israel holds Hamas responsible for any rocket attacks from Gaza.

In addition to chants of “Long live the intifada” and “We don’t want no two states, we want all ’48,” the protesters also chanted “Free the people, free the land, justice is our demand, no peace on stolen land.”


Jewish groups condemned the chants.

“ADL [Anti-Defamation League] is committed to the right to free speech and the right for citizens to criticize ruling government bodies,” ADL Los Angeles Regional Director Jeffrey I. Abrams said in a statement to the Journal. “This applies even when we don’t agree with the criticism of Israeli policy. However, all too often criticism or condemnation of Israel allows antisemitism to seep into the mainstream, including traditional antisemitic imagery or stereotypes, blaming all Jews for the actions of Israel, or denying or questioning Israel’s right to exist – and this we cannot and will not accept.”




some Palestinians had enough








On April 23, video of a conversation involving Muna El-Kurd was posted on an Instagram account, during which El-Kurd begins by urging someone named Fathi not to suggest that there are Jews (not Zionists, not Israelis, but Jews) in solidarity with Palestinians. Fathi responded that yes, there is a Jew from the “left-wing” there. At this point, El-Kurd angrily interjects:

“There is no left-wing! It is all right-wing, it is all settlers, and it is all Zionist dogs. If someone wants to be in solidarity with me, he should get out of Palestine, [then] be in solidarity with me.” (Translated by CAMERA Arabic)

This statement, at best, is an open call for “Palestine” to be ethnically cleansed of Jews. This would include all of Israel, considering that she openly declares that “Palestine” is from “its sea to its river.” Considering that polls show that as many as 95% of American Jews have favorable views of Israel, the embodiment of Zionism, it seems Muna has some rather dehumanizing terminology for diaspora Jews, too. Referring to Jews as “dogs” is a common antisemitic term, particularly among Palestinians and even among antisemites at the United Nations. Chants of “Jews are our dogs” are heard fairly regularly at demonstrations. No matter what way you slice it, Muna’s words are deplorable and overtly bigoted.

The statement also exposes the emptiness of the supposed “principles” of individuals like El-Kurd. While openly calling for the ethnic cleansing of Jews, her social media accounts are replete with cries to “#EndEthnicCleansing.” It’s yet another example of how much of anti-Israel activism is not about principled human rights, but about the destruction of the Jewish state and the denial of Jewish self-determination.

 

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The terrorism is coming mostly from Israel,...
Not according to any human definition. But no surprise you are more concerned about the Palestinians killed during their own attacks than you are about the people they're attacking.

But you will continue to excuse those Palestinians who target civilians because of their religion, their leaders who promote attacks on civilians because of religion, and the 44% who support those attacks.
 

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Not according to any human definition. But no surprise you are more concerned about the Palestinians killed during their own attacks than you are about the people they're attacking.

But you will continue to excuse those Palestinians who target civilians because of their religion, their leaders who promote attacks on civilians because of religion, and the 44% who support those attacks.
Yes, according to all the legit metrics Israel commits way more acts that fit the definition of terrorism, of targeting civilians.
Settler attacks backed by the IDF:
Israel targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure:
Using snipers on civilian protesters

All of those show that Israel regularly targets and kills 10x the number of civilians.
If you were against terrorism you would call it out.
But you're not, you're only against Palestinians, not terrorism against Palestinians.
 
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