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Implants and tattoos: Stop the madness

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JeremytheWicked said:
She wishes to this FOR HERSELF. To rid herself of a problem that may be slight in others eyes, but great in hers.
Ok, that's it! I am checking out penis implants. I want people to think that I am happy to see them.
 

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JeremytheWicked said:
My g/f is currently in the process of seeking some breast enhancement.
I need to echo Sasha's sentiments here. Women need to do these things for themselves ONLY - the reasons that got them there I think are irrelevant.

I disagree I think women have to realize that every perceived imperfection of their bodies is not just cured by spending money . Regardless of what they tell you if they thought other people were not looking at them they wouldn't do it. They never do it just for them .
 

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No I don't think you did them to please yourself really . You already admitted boys made you insecure with comments so really you did it to please men.
If you were secure you would have said to hell with them. The health risks aren't worth it and they don't make you irresistible.
I would prefer a girl with small breasts and a nice ass and face. Implants won't make up for a not nice ass or face.
This is something only a woman in my position could understand I guess.
Yes, I was made to feel very insecure as a teenager, alot of that aslo carried over to my adulhood as well but there were many more reasons to get the implants besides that, for example, the way clothes fit or looked on me, the proportion between my chest and my hips, the fact that the only bras I could find that fit me properly were training bras also weighed heavily in my decision. In the end I just did not 'feel feminine' with my extremely small chest and made the decision for myself. The health risks are minor in my eyes and the pleasure I get from the results everyday far outweigh the risks. I do agree that implants should be kept realistic, there is no need whatsoever for a girl who is an A cup with a petite frame to go out and get DD's.

Like I said nobody is forcing you to see the girls with implants and it is certainly not your decision to make. I won't have any more plasic surgery, I don't feel the need for it anywhere else on my body but you can be sure if I did the fact that you prefer I do without it certainly would not change my mind. It is just a situation that you should try to look at from the other side of the fence.

If you had a penis that was only 1" long and everyone could see it wouldn't you feel a little insecure?
Maybe you could just wear padded underwear and that would fix it all. The reality is you would still have a 1" penis :rolleyes:
 

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Sasha Jones said:
This is something only a woman in my position could understand I guess. :rolleyes:
Yes, I was made to feel very insecure as a teenager, alot of that aslo carried over to my adulhood as well but there were many more reasons to get the implants besides that, for example, the way clothes fit or looked on me, the proportion between my chest and my hips, the fact that the only bras I could find that fit me properly were training bras also weighed heavily in my decision. In the end I just did not 'feel feminine' with my extremely small chest and made the decision for myself. The health risks are minor in my eyes and the pleasure I get from the results everyday far outweigh the risks. I do agree that implants should be kept realistic, there is no need whatsoever for a girl who is an A cup with a petite frame to go out and get DD's.

Like I said nobody is forcing you to see the girls with implants and it is certainly not your decision to make. I won't have any more plasic surgery, I don't feel the need for it anywhere else on my body but you can be sure if I did the fact that you prefer I do without it certainly would not change my mind. It is just a situation that you should try to look at from the other side of the fence.

If you had a penis that was only 1" long and everyone could see it wouldn't you feel a little insecure.
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Sasha Jones said:
jeez I wonder why some girls are insecure about the size of their breasts....

Could it be because we get singled out as the chick who's chest is as flat as her back, or mistaken for a boy and teased to no end. That sort of sh*t stays with a person forever and it was men ... or should I say boys who inflicted it.

It is pretty easy to say you are insecure about the size of your penis but you don't go cutting it up to solve it.... I don't know many men that walk around with their penises hanging out of their pants for the world to judge its size.
Unfortunatley if you are woman, the size of your breasts is usually pretty apparent in or out of clothing, it is something you can't really hide.

I have implants and I don't regret the decision to get them, and I could really care less whether you like them or not. Granted, I didn't go to the extreme that some women do but it was my choice and I did it for a reason. I'll admit that insecurity was a big part of it, I'll never be perfect but IMHO the implants got me that little bit closer in my eyes.

As for men liking my boobs the way they were, tell that to the guy who sent me home sometime in my first month working as an escort because my boobs were too small for him, after he demanded that I open my shirt so he could see just how much wasn't there. Then told me to call the agency because it simply was not going to work for him.

It doesn't matter what we do, implants or no implants, boobs or no boobs, blonde or brunette, we are never gonna make everyone happy so at least let us make ourselves happy and shut the hell up about it. Nobody told you that you had to see a girl with implants, so if you don't like them, see someone else. It is a pretty simple concept really.
Good response. You would be the person for whom they make sense (from where you sit anyway). My argument is against the endless fetish for bigger, harder, less human tatas. It's a disease, a sickness. I like breasts--it's sad to be living in a time where they're being destroyed, quite literally.

I'm not saying men aren't part of the cycle, only that it's a two step dance, while meanwhile there are lots of sensible men and women who find the whole plastic misadventure sad and depressing.

Cheers! ;)
 

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Sasha Jones said:
If you had a penis that was only 1" long and everyone could see it wouldn't you feel a little insecure?
Maybe you could just wear padded underwear and that would fix it all. The reality is you would still have a 1" penis
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Sasha Jones said:
This is something only a woman in my position could understand I guess.
Yes, I was made to feel very insecure as a teenager, alot of that aslo carried over to my adulhood as well but there were many more reasons to get the implants besides that, for example, the way clothes fit or looked on me, the proportion between my chest and my hips, the fact that the only bras I could find that fit me properly were training bras also weighed heavily in my decision. In the end I just did not 'feel feminine' with my extremely small chest and made the decision for myself. The health risks are minor in my eyes and the pleasure I get from the results everyday far outweigh the risks. I do agree that implants should be kept realistic, there is no need whatsoever for a girl who is an A cup with a petite frame to go out and get DD's.

Like I said nobody is forcing you to see the girls with implants and it is certainly not your decision to make. I won't have any more plasic surgery, I don't feel the need for it anywhere else on my body but you can be sure if I did the fact that you prefer I do without it certainly would not change my mind. It is just a situation that you should try to look at from the other side of the fence.

If you had a penis that was only 1" long and everyone could see it wouldn't you feel a little insecure?
Maybe you could just wear padded underwear and that would fix it all. The reality is you would still have a 1" penis
This makes you sound bitter about my rant. Look, I'm not judging you for god's sake. You sound like the perfect candidate for breast implants. Someone for whom there was REAL teasing and discomfort--a general ridicule that made you feel awful.

But Sasha, you are the EXCEPTION. What we're doing is cultivating a society-wide standard that bigger and faker is better than smaller and natural, and I'm just one guy trying to say "Girls, you don't have to! We like your boobs in all shapes and sizes."

So effectively, this rant is not aimed at you. If you feel better, great.

Personally, I would have booked you without implants, but I wouldn't book you with them, so there you go. At least I walk the walk.

:)
 

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Sasha Jones said:
This is something only a woman in my position could understand I guess.
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Like I said nobody is forcing you to see the girls with implants and it is certainly not your decision to make. I won't have any more plasic surgery, I don't feel the need for it anywhere else on my body but you can be sure if I did the fact that you prefer I do without it certainly would not change my mind. It is just a situation that you should try to look at from the other side of the fence.

If you had a penis that was only 1" long and everyone could see it wouldn't you feel a little insecure?
Maybe you could just wear padded underwear and that would fix it all. The reality is you would still have a 1" penis :rolleyes:

You know Sasha you do point out that everyone is different and I respect that. I don't know what you looked like before so maybe for you it was right. I do think that a lot of women make the decision too lightly. Most of my favorite dancers had small breasts but were in proportion. Breasts implants would have done nothing to improve their appearance. Again I would not downplay the surgical risk or future problems . Ultimately the choice is yours but I think it's just that some women make the choice for the wrong reasons
 

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Response re: tattoos and implants

Mao Tse Tongue said:
The other day I posted a review of a girl at an Asian MP.

Someone PM'ed me and asked if I would remove the review because I had pointed out the girl had rock hard implants and she didn't like that and was very sensitive about her implants.

Well, here's my advice: don't get them in the first place.

And while you're at it girls of the world: lay off on the tattoos that take up whole city blocks.

Time was, a discrete tattoo spoke of some sexy inner self, a little blinking icon of the devil within, grinning quietly.

Now, tattoos have become a sheep-like rite of passage into the world of Me-Too-ism. "Look, I too have the power to blanket my body with my favourite Tribe Called Quest lyrics."

Can there be anything less rebellious or creative than getting a tattoo? My buddy and I were talking about this the other day. When we see girls who have resisted the urge to get tattoos, we think: "Now there's an independent woman". Nothing less interesting than a sheep.

Implants? Please don't get them. I'm begging you. We men like you without them, and we lose respect for you when you get them. They're a blinking sign of insecurity. We're insecure too, but we don't cut up our body parts to solve our insecurities (hair plugs don't count).

The breast is the ultimate sign of fertility and life, and we're busy replacing it with what comes down the assembly line. God help us. :rolleyes:



First of all, this pays absolutely no attention to the psychology behind tattooing, and that is a huge omission.

In the same way that every teenage girl doesn't "cut" herself, every random female isn't going to look up and see body art as the in style, and then opt for no more reason than that to get a tattoo.

It usually takes a rather unique sort of a person to even dare the little tattoos. And that uniqueness is not genetic.

And the reference to the breast being "the ultimate sign of fertility and life" is pure crap. A woman's hips are far more universally recognized that way than are anyone's breasts.

Having said that, many years ago I encountered a working girl on a street corner who had both implants and a couple of tattoos. While her breast selection was indeed too large for her frame (at least for real life concerns), she was still a remarkable woman in every way.

I would adjust the vibe you're trying to put forth to something like: "human bodies are wonderfully attractive as they are, because of the natural variety all around. Body modifications which then dominate the appearance of a woman detract from her natural beauty. Subtle is usually preferred."


PS - if you took away all of the central inspirations for body modifications, then in so doing you would probably take away the inspirations for becoming a prostitute as well. There is a catch-22 in that on a message board such as this one.
 

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I think it's beautiful and on a personal level is an acknowledgement of my "warrior princess" spiritinspirations for future reference.

Still don't like the big fake unnatural boobies... but to each his own, I like body modifications in terms of scars, piercing and tattoo's and I guess others like big boobies.. so who am I to judge :)

I think that anyone who thinks that a lot tatoos makes them look good or different shows the signs of a weak mentality.
 
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I see these averaqe looking women, and I concider myself an average looking man, with these tattoos and I am immediately turned off. My theory is that it makes them feel naughty, sexy and part of the scene for those few minutes that they lift their top or pull down their pants for a stranger. At the end of the day, it is what they do in the back alley of a bar with a perfect stranger, surrounded by a mob that makes them sexy, naughty and part of the scene. Not a patch of dried ink.
 

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Sasha Jones said:
It doesn't matter what we do, implants or no implants, boobs or no boobs, blonde or brunette, we are never gonna make everyone happy so at least let us make ourselves happy and shut the hell up about it. Nobody told you that you had to see a girl with implants, so if you don't like them, see someone else. It is a pretty simple concept really.
While I am not a fan of implants and have been a big fan of certain "flatchested" women in the past the above statement strikes me as a good summary argument .

Stating what you like is not always also stating what you dislike - it's stating what you prefer. I saw Sasha , not because of her boobs , but because her personality as projected on this board interested me. Still like her a lot after seeing her and still prefer natural even if that means concave.
 

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Sasha Jones said:
If you had a penis that was only 1" long and everyone could see it wouldn't you feel a little insecure?
Maybe you could just wear padded underwear and that would fix it all. The reality is you would still have a 1" penis
Your whole post leading to what I quoted was mentioning how you wanted to do it to make yourself feel better. That's great. But I think you're deluding yourself. I read your post and I can clearly see that your choice for getting the implants were motivated by the need to be accepted by others.
Who cares if you have to wear a training bra. You cared because you felt that men found you unattractive. So how is that doing it for yourself?

Also, the 1" pecker comment also points to your need for acceptance. Yes I agree that a lot of men would be changing their tune if this was the case, but it still points to the fact that you and others who do body modification is doing it because of self perceived pressures brought on by a low self image. The low self image is most likely caused by outside forces but a woman or man who is truly comfortable with themselves say, "oh go fuck yourself, my body is fine the way it is."

I was just reading and found this thread to be very interesting. I myself don't have any piercings or tattoos. No piercings because as a male, I did not want to add jewelry to my body. No tattoos because I see old men with tats and it makes me scared to look like that. :)

As for my views on women and body mods. It's fine, do what makes you happy. If it makes you feel more empowered to have a howitzer titty, go for it. I for one relish the natural beauty of a woman.
 

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learningtoplay said:
My theory is that it makes them feel naughty, sexy and part of the scene for those few minutes that they lift their top or pull down their pants for a stranger.
Actually, tattoos are uncool now because every soccer mom and their daughters have them. With anything in life, once the exclusivity is gone it is no longer appealing.
 

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Tattoos were never ment to be cool.
Anyone that get's one because of that
really shouldn't have them anyway.
 

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nikki4 said:
Tattoos were never ment to be cool.
Anyone that get's one because of that
really shouldn't have them anyway.
Yes, but that would be about 90% of people who did.
 

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Meister said:
Yes, but that would be about 90% of people who did.
We all have choices and reasons behind every decision we do
funny thing is we all are right :p so please dont speak for 90 % of the poulation thanks
 

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Make them STOP!!!!

I suppose fake tits and tats are glam...as in glamourous. Basically, to be an attractive woman in North America you must be a whore or a vampire.

I don't know why but it's true...look at the cover of any fashion or glamour magazine ... whores and vampires.

Who started this, and how do we make them stop?

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Meister said:
Yes, but that would be about 90% of people who did.
 
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