I'm so environmentally friendly
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So, what are you doing about any of the above? Hey, a super successful, super rich guy like yourself needs to buy toys eh? At least 6 cars (4 GTs, new challenger, Flex), also mentioned a hybrid and a classic Challenger and is now looking at a Miata. You claim to live on a farm with a large house, several buildings and farm machines (most wasting away sitting idle). Sounds like you've spent half your life flying to amazing places (in highly polluting jets). You can't become the world's greatest driver without doing lots of driving.
Yet almost all your points are BS or exaggerated - you admitted as much: "I exaggerated the quantities to push the point that the recycle program may be creating more stress on the environment than it actually alleviates". <-- sure, if you BS, anything can be made to look bad.
Re Apple: That apple is ~2-3 ounces? Modern container ship can move >>> 75,000 tons of cargo. That means the apple corresponds to .0000000067% of the ship's pollution.
Re recycling: That truck is servicing many, many homes that day. Modern diesel trucks are much cleaner. Less pollution than your brain farts.
Re hybrid: You've listed out all your amazing vehicles 10-15 time to impress us, never mentioned a hybrid before. Another exaggeration??
Re recycling: Reasons auto manufacturers use nickel-metal hydride batteries is that they are safer, more environmental friendly and less expensive to recycle.
Re fuel rods: definitely a problem. However, there are programs to recycle CANDU fuel rods into a new generation of breeder reactors, using laser technologies to accelerate the half-life life-cycle and studies to properly store them. Technology is improving.
Re house pollution: open a window or move into a cave. Your choice.
Just another notthemama get attention post.
Yet almost all your points are BS or exaggerated - you admitted as much: "I exaggerated the quantities to push the point that the recycle program may be creating more stress on the environment than it actually alleviates". <-- sure, if you BS, anything can be made to look bad.
Re Apple: That apple is ~2-3 ounces? Modern container ship can move >>> 75,000 tons of cargo. That means the apple corresponds to .0000000067% of the ship's pollution.
Re recycling: That truck is servicing many, many homes that day. Modern diesel trucks are much cleaner. Less pollution than your brain farts.
Re hybrid: You've listed out all your amazing vehicles 10-15 time to impress us, never mentioned a hybrid before. Another exaggeration??
Re recycling: Reasons auto manufacturers use nickel-metal hydride batteries is that they are safer, more environmental friendly and less expensive to recycle.
Re fuel rods: definitely a problem. However, there are programs to recycle CANDU fuel rods into a new generation of breeder reactors, using laser technologies to accelerate the half-life life-cycle and studies to properly store them. Technology is improving.
Re house pollution: open a window or move into a cave. Your choice.
Just another notthemama get attention post.
I never said I had a Hybrid car. I used it as an example of falsely green technology. The batteries are only part of it. The plug ins only transfer the exhaust pipe from the backend to a huge stack somewhere else. The electricity is not provided by some benevolent Genie.
Instead of sending belching trucks around everyweek couldn't we just take it to central drop off points like grocery stores where we could get our deposits back. I go there several times a week.
Sure I have to agree with you on the nuclear rods. The mining of uranium, processing it and then finding an end use/storeage for it is totally environmentally safe. The healthy glow around Cherynoble (sp) and Fuchashima (sp) prove that.
As someone from a farming background in early life I wonder why so much of our food is imported when we have the ability to produce it right here. It is a short sighted savings that threatens our food security into the future. Not just the immediate environmental impact.
From another thread about imported honey, I find it ironic that we import honey from China when we are a net exporter. Why do the Chinese consumers want our honey. They don't trust the quality of their own that we buy to save a $/container.
To answer some other questions for you.
I grow and buy as much locally as I can
I have enough solar panels that I put more energy into the grid than I use
My home is totally heated with heat exchanger system that is powered by said solar system
My tractors are all tier 4 compliant, the highest rating,
My recycle box is only half full after 3 weeks. I avoid as much unnecessary packaging as possible. The belching truck has driven by everyweek.
My greenhouse is still gas heated as my home heating system doesn't have the capacity to handle it to.
I've been eating my own produce for over a month by passing the imported stuff short of citrus and the occasional banana. All the food waste is recycles in my manure pile.
So, you are now admitting your entire post was a cute little made-up story, full of exaggerated and fictional material? Cool!
...... I used it as an example of falsely green technology. .... The plug ins only transfer the exhaust pipe from the backend to a huge stack somewhere else. The electricity is not provided by some benevolent Genie.
Wrong. Measured per kilowatt the pollution from a electric car is far less than from a fossil fuel car.
Ontario has closed down all our coal generators. NG generation is reasonably clean. Hydro, wind and nuke don't burn fossil fuels. What "huge stacks" are you referring to? More exaggeration on your part?
Instead of sending belching trucks around everyweek couldn't we just take it to central drop off points like grocery stores where we could get our deposits back. I go there several times a week.
Your solution simply shifting costs. The stores will need additional floor space to address this requirement. More staff to manage it. Trucks are still required to pick it up.
Garbage trucks still have to come by your house to pick your garbage up. Picking up recycling at the same time only costs pennies extra. Some communities send different trucks around for garbage and recycling, but I guarantee a smart CA somewhere did the calculations and that approach make business sense.
More made-up facts on your part?
Sure I have to agree with you on the nuclear rods. The mining of uranium, processing it and then finding an end use/storeage for it is totally environmentally safe. The healthy glow around Cherynoble (sp) and Fuchashima (sp) prove that.
Stupid, stupid comment. I did state "definitely a problem", but being addressed by new technologies.
As someone from a farming background in early life I wonder why so much of our food is imported when we have the ability to produce it right here. It is a short sighted savings that threatens our food security into the future......
From another thread about imported honey, I find it ironic that we import honey from China when we are a net exporter. Why do the Chinese consumers want our honey. They don't trust the quality of their own that we buy to save a $/container.
One word: Economics. If it made business sense and/or if people demanded and were willing to pay for it, we would be growing more here.
I agree with your food security comment completely.
What facts can you provide that show that the Chinese don't trust their own honey? More made up dribble
I have enough solar panels that I put more energy into the grid than I use. My home is totally heated with heat exchanger system that is powered by said solar system
Do you think you can say whatever you want and we'll all just believe you? Based on; what an average Ontario home consumes (~1000kWh/mth), average energy cost (~$.11-.12kWh + transmission etc), buy back price (up to $.384kWh), cost of a solar solution ($2500 - $3000 per kW one-time), need for sufficient capacity to cover your home needs including battery storage (>12-15kWh capacity MINIMUM) means the payback on a typical home solution would be upwards of 15+ years. But in Ontario we have shorter days in the winter, lots of grey days, rainy days, snow and/or dirt on the collectors, etc. making the payback >20 years. Why would a exceptionally smart and successful guy like you make such a stupid investment?
12K watts would require 48 cells, each with an area of 2 m2. That means you have a southern facing roof surface of at least 100 m2. That is ONE MASSIVE ROOF you own! sic
...... I used it as an example of falsely green technology. .... The plug ins only transfer the exhaust pipe from the backend to a huge stack somewhere else. The electricity is not provided by some benevolent Genie.
Wrong. Measured per kilowatt the pollution from a electric car is far less than from a fossil fuel car.
Ontario has closed down all our coal generators. NG generation is reasonably clean. Hydro, wind and nuke don't burn fossil fuels. What "huge stacks" are you referring to? More exaggeration on your part?
Instead of sending belching trucks around everyweek couldn't we just take it to central drop off points like grocery stores where we could get our deposits back. I go there several times a week.
Your solution simply shifting costs. The stores will need additional floor space to address this requirement. More staff to manage it. Trucks are still required to pick it up.
Garbage trucks still have to come by your house to pick your garbage up. Picking up recycling at the same time only costs pennies extra. Some communities send different trucks around for garbage and recycling, but I guarantee a smart CA somewhere did the calculations and that approach make business sense.
More made-up facts on your part?
Sure I have to agree with you on the nuclear rods. The mining of uranium, processing it and then finding an end use/storeage for it is totally environmentally safe. The healthy glow around Cherynoble (sp) and Fuchashima (sp) prove that.
Stupid, stupid comment. I did state "definitely a problem", but being addressed by new technologies.
As someone from a farming background in early life I wonder why so much of our food is imported when we have the ability to produce it right here. It is a short sighted savings that threatens our food security into the future......
From another thread about imported honey, I find it ironic that we import honey from China when we are a net exporter. Why do the Chinese consumers want our honey. They don't trust the quality of their own that we buy to save a $/container.
One word: Economics. If it made business sense and/or if people demanded and were willing to pay for it, we would be growing more here.
I agree with your food security comment completely.
What facts can you provide that show that the Chinese don't trust their own honey? More made up dribble
I have enough solar panels that I put more energy into the grid than I use. My home is totally heated with heat exchanger system that is powered by said solar system
Do you think you can say whatever you want and we'll all just believe you? Based on; what an average Ontario home consumes (~1000kWh/mth), average energy cost (~$.11-.12kWh + transmission etc), buy back price (up to $.384kWh), cost of a solar solution ($2500 - $3000 per kW one-time), need for sufficient capacity to cover your home needs including battery storage (>12-15kWh capacity MINIMUM) means the payback on a typical home solution would be upwards of 15+ years. But in Ontario we have shorter days in the winter, lots of grey days, rainy days, snow and/or dirt on the collectors, etc. making the payback >20 years. Why would a exceptionally smart and successful guy like you make such a stupid investment?
12K watts would require 48 cells, each with an area of 2 m2. That means you have a southern facing roof surface of at least 100 m2. That is ONE MASSIVE ROOF you own! sic
I have lost all respect for you knowing that you are considering buying a Miata. You know what they say about Miata drivers right..
Seems like some of the boys (Promo) are taking you a bit seriously.
OK , OK, OK promo I give.
I live in a refrigerator box, actually I've taped two together so it's a double wide.
Sorry I wasted tape and diverted the cardboard from a recycle facility.
You know all. Hail the all knowledgeable Promo.
For your next response, yes, yes you are right again.
I live in a refrigerator box, actually I've taped two together so it's a double wide.
Sorry I wasted tape and diverted the cardboard from a recycle facility.
You know all. Hail the all knowledgeable Promo.
For your next response, yes, yes you are right again.
LOL, I don't take him seriously at all! I get a chuckle at his constant bragging and bullshitting.
I will take fun shots at notthemama, ceiling cat, fuji, skyrider, canada-man and a few others every now and again . I think most of us have figured these guys out.
Its all good Promo..Cut them some slack.. If we can't brag and bullshit a bit on this forum, where else can we do it??
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDRQeR3aJ3U
I want to hear more about that Miata. I remember when they first came out, the hype around them was big, then you found out it had a whopping 110hp...
Hail Promo, the all knowledgeable. Hail to thee.:clap2:
Long live the Promo for he knows all.:hail:
He is so smrt.
