I'm so environmentally friendly

[notthemama]

I'm eating an apple from South Africa instead of one that could have been grown down the street, except, they just put up a new subdivision there.
How much can transporting that one apple half way around the world hurt the environment?
I put out my recycling this morning.
Here comes that big diesel belching truck to pick up 11 cans, 3 bottles, some junk mail flyers. Much of these recyclable products will end up in the landfill anyways as there isn't much demand for them. Diesel fumes don't hurt the environment do they?
I better go to the store and get more recyclables to put in next weeks box.
I'll take my hybrid car. That should help shouldn't it?
Lets see now. The battery is made using nickel hydride. That requires nickel from Sudbury to be mined and refined before being sent to China where through a very polluting process it is converted. The Chinese dump the byproducts of manufacture into their waterways. That's OK. That's way over there.
When the battery dies after about 8 years we'll recycle it. All is good.
Or is it? We don't have appropriate facilities to deal with these and the dangerous chemicals they contain. Mmm.
Well you didn't pollute out the tailpipe.
No, no I didn't. But there are a bunch or uranium rods that will be dangerous for the next 100000 years that helped produce the electricity that charged the dangerous battery.
Oh shit.
Well then I'll stay home.
The cozy warm home. Ah, bliss.
Not so much. New homes tend to be considerably larger than homes in the past, contain huge quantities of environmentally dangerous materials. You're probably breathing high levels of chemicals leaching out of these materials right now. We won't mention the animals that lost their homes when the forest was clear cut to get the lumber that built your home.
The coffee you're making and lunch you're heating are adding to the pile of spent uranium rods and dead birds that are hit by those huge windturbines.
This is making me sick, I better go to the bathroom.
Not so fast, where do you think that all goes? Sure, sure the water plant takes care of all of that. Water is all nice and clean.
But what do we do with all the solids? Lets spread it on our farm fields and contaminate them with heavy metals, chemicals dangerous bacteria and medicines you pissed out...

 

[shakenbake]

Precisely. Not many are aware of Life Cycle Analysis, and how stuff that purports to be environmentally friendly actually does more harm. However, what can we do, as individuals, to really save our world?

 

[destillat]

Fossil fuels aren't the big enemy anyways... the world's biggest polluting industry is the meat industry.

 

[notthemama]

Fossil fuels aren't the big enemy anyways... the world's biggest polluting industry is the meat industry.

Yep. It was Bessy the cow that polluted the entire Gulf of Mexico when she had an accident. And Arnold the pig ran those oil tankers aground. It's unmentionable what Foghorn Leghorn did during the gulf war.

 

[destillat]

Yep. It was Bessy the cow that polluted the entire Gulf of Mexico when she had an accident. And Arnold the pig ran those oil tankers aground. It's unmentionable what Foghorn Leghorn did during the gulf war.

Maybe you should read a book one day and educate yourself a bit before you run your mouth off.

 

[**Sophie**]

Yep. It was Bessy the cow that polluted the entire Gulf of Mexico when she had an accident. And Arnold the pig ran those oil tankers aground. It's unmentionable what Foghorn Leghorn did during the gulf war.

And how about all that radiation just pumping through your veins, hardening your pineal gland, just by posting this beauty thread!! Nothing like some good old fashion radiation.

I understand what you mean though.

 

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Someone is suffering some serious issues of cowspiracy poisoning...like sheep believe everything they see and hear...Kip Anderson and Leo D. yup really educated folks with solid credentials and own peer tested published research on global issues. Like leaches...think critically folks!

 

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[notthemama]

Wow, pretty impressive, two weeks worth of recycling and all you had to show for it was "11 cans, 3 bottles, some junk mail flyers".

So many dumb comments in your post, not sure where to start, but here's a few...

Hybrid cars, a small amount of nickel hydride will power that car for years - much better than burning a crapload of tarsands oil...
Yes uranium powers the battery, but safe disposal of spent rods is much better than a flooded planet due to CO2 emissions and global warming
New homes and their terrible high efficiency insulation which saves a bunch of energy and reduces natural gas usage - again small amount of chemicals saving tons of fossil fuels.

If the world is so dangerous now with all these horrible chemicals and pollution, why are today's newborns going to live 100+ years on average versus only 55 years a century ago?

So many dumb comments in your post, where do I begin?
My recycle is every week, so you got that wrong. I exaggerated the quantities to push the point that the recycle program may be creating more stress on the environment than it actually alleviates.
Yes storing spent radioactive rods for a 100,000 years is better than elevated co2 levels which if we stopped being idiots (probably because of our extinction ) would self correct in a 1000. You forgot to mention how polluting the mining for uranium is and how dangerous. That cheap electricity becomes real expensive around year 90.000 of storing the spent rods.
The dead rivers in China from their manufacturing processes in making the batteries for the hybrid cars are certainly made up for when I see the smile on Leo Decrapios face standing next to his Prius.
New homes are so oversized for the numbers living in them that any gains in energy efficiency are more than made up for by their burgeoning size. Yes we need two story entrances and more bathrooms than a bus station. Additionally all the man made materials, plastics, finishes, etc, that are just oozing dangerous chemicals. Just 50 years ago the homes were made with more natural products. Asbestos certainly never hurt anyone.
People are living longer because of all the medications and proceedures that are available now. A 100 years ago a simple infection could be fatal. However why is it that now every second kid seems to be deathly allergic to something. Never heard of autism when I was young and many other afflictions that seem to be becoming more and more prevalent.
OK. I pass the idiot baton back to you. Run with it. You seem to be better with it.

 

[notthemama]

Maybe you should read a book one day and educate yourself a bit before you run your mouth off.

There are billions of trillions of living organisms on this planet all giving off some form of biologic waste. If you're not a creationist, this has gone on for billions of years. All was in balance until we started using fossil fuels.
So how does it suddenly become Elanor the cows fault that our climate is changing. What about the 7 billion people who eat Elanor and her friends and spend the rest of the day farting to?

 

[destillat]

There are billions of trillions of living organisms on this planet all giving off some form of biologic waste. If you're not a creationist, this has gone on for billions of years. All was in balance until we started using fossil fuels.
So how does it suddenly become Elanor the cows fault that our climate is changing. What about the 7 billion people who eat Elanor and her friends and spend the rest of the day farting to?

How many billions of cows are alive just to feed the USA beef addiction? Those were not alive 100 years ago.
How many billions of chickens are alive just to feed the USA egg addiction? Those were not alive 100 years ago.
How many thousands of acres of forest worldwide has been cleared just to feed these new animals. Those acres were here 100 years ago.

 

[barnacler]

OK here are two more:

How many chickens, lambs, and cattle are slaughtered every year to feed pets?

And - you want a NON-green entity?

The LCBO and the beer store. Separate buildings, facilities, staff, computer systems, receipts, packaging, heating, light, power, insurance, - all duplication of what could be done in one stop at a SUPERMARKET. Also, extra driving!

 

[notthemama]

How many billions of cows are alive just to feed the USA beef addiction? Those were not alive 100 years ago.
How many billions of chickens are alive just to feed the USA egg addiction? Those were not alive 100 years ago.
How many thousands of acres of forest worldwide has been cleared just to feed these new animals. Those acres were here 100 years ago.

How many millions of buffalo used to roam the west? Replaced by Elanor.
How many bird species have dwindled or gone extinct? Replaced by Foghorn Leghorn.
Just maintaining the balance.

 

[huckfinn]

How many thousands of acres of forest worldwide has been cleared just to feed these new animals. Those acres were here 100 years ago.

How many millions of buffalo used to roam the west? Replaced by Elanor.
How many bird species have dwindled or gone extinct? Replaced by Foghorn Leghorn.
Just maintaining the balance.

I think the difference is the trees and rainforest we are clearing to feed the beef, chickens etc. Its not about maintaining the balance because there are far more domesticated cows and chickens than there were wild ones.....the fact we have increased the animal population for our consumption also adds a lot of waste ie manure.

 

[destillat]

How many millions of buffalo used to roam the west? Replaced by Elanor.
How many bird species have dwindled or gone extinct? Replaced by Foghorn Leghorn.
Just maintaining the balance.

Balance? I seriously hope you are kidding.
There is no possible way that the earth can naturally support the billions of cattle and billions of chickens roaming wildly. They all need to eat, you know? Where are these naturally roaming animals going to find enough feed?

 

[K Douglas]

People are so misinformed about the environment. Let's start with the basics - CO2 is not pollution. It's a gas that is essential for life to exist on this planet.
If you drive a vehicle that is manufactured within the past 30 years or so you are creating very little pollution. 94% of what you emit is CO2.

Can the environment be better, sure it can. Water can be cleaner. Hazardous waste can be better managed. We can do a lot personally about what toxins we put into our bloodstream. Let's focus on that instead of demonizing the oil sands, cows and CO2.

 

[whitewaterguy]

It's pretty much grade 5 geography to understand that the deforestation/decimation of the Amazon rain forest is driven by Brazil's beef industry, representing the largest herd in the world....and what happens to the environment, class, when we lose massive tracts of forest???? Check your grade 5 science curriculum

 

[fmahovalich]

I'm eating an apple from South Africa instead of one that could have been grown down the street, except, they just put up a new subdivision there.
How much can transporting that one apple half way around the world hurt the environment?
I put out my recycling this morning.
Here comes that big diesel belching truck to pick up 11 cans, 3 bottles, some junk mail flyers. Much of these recyclable products will end up in the landfill anyways as there isn't much demand for them. Diesel fumes don't hurt the environment do they?
I better go to the store and get more recyclables to put in next weeks box.
I'll take my hybrid car. That should help shouldn't it?
Lets see now. The battery is made using nickel hydride. That requires nickel from Sudbury to be mined and refined before being sent to China where through a very polluting process it is converted. The Chinese dump the byproducts of manufacture into their waterways. That's OK. That's way over there.
When the battery dies after about 8 years we'll recycle it. All is good.
Or is it? We don't have appropriate facilities to deal with these and the dangerous chemicals they contain. Mmm.
Well you didn't pollute out the tailpipe.
No, no I didn't. But there are a bunch or uranium rods that will be dangerous for the next 100000 years that helped produce the electricity that charged the dangerous battery.
Oh shit.
Well then I'll stay home.
The cozy warm home. Ah, bliss.
Not so much. New homes tend to be considerably larger than homes in the past, contain huge quantities of environmentally dangerous materials. You're probably breathing high levels of chemicals leaching out of these materials right now. We won't mention the animals that lost their homes when the forest was clear cut to get the lumber that built your home.
The coffee you're making and lunch you're heating are adding to the pile of spent uranium rods and dead birds that are hit by those huge windturbines.
This is making me sick, I better go to the bathroom.
Not so fast, where do you think that all goes? Sure, sure the water plant takes care of all of that. Water is all nice and clean.
But what do we do with all the solids? Lets spread it on our farm fields and contaminate them with heavy metals, chemicals dangerous bacteria and medicines you pissed out...

You...Sir...yes YOU have every right to change your situation.

 

[slowandeasy]

I'm eating an apple from South Africa instead of one that could have been grown down the street, except, they just put up a new subdivision there.
How much can transporting that one apple half way around the world hurt the environment?
I put out my recycling this morning.
Here comes that big diesel belching truck to pick up 11 cans, 3 bottles, some junk mail flyers. Much of these recyclable products will end up in the landfill anyways as there isn't much demand for them. Diesel fumes don't hurt the environment do they?
I better go to the store and get more recyclables to put in next weeks box.
I'll take my hybrid car. That should help shouldn't it?
Lets see now. The battery is made using nickel hydride. That requires nickel from Sudbury to be mined and refined before being sent to China where through a very polluting process it is converted. The Chinese dump the byproducts of manufacture into their waterways. That's OK. That's way over there.
When the battery dies after about 8 years we'll recycle it. All is good.
Or is it? We don't have appropriate facilities to deal with these and the dangerous chemicals they contain. Mmm.
Well you didn't pollute out the tailpipe.
No, no I didn't. But there are a bunch or uranium rods that will be dangerous for the next 100000 years that helped produce the electricity that charged the dangerous battery.
Oh shit.
Well then I'll stay home.
The cozy warm home. Ah, bliss.
Not so much. New homes tend to be considerably larger than homes in the past, contain huge quantities of environmentally dangerous materials. You're probably breathing high levels of chemicals leaching out of these materials right now. We won't mention the animals that lost their homes when the forest was clear cut to get the lumber that built your home.
The coffee you're making and lunch you're heating are adding to the pile of spent uranium rods and dead birds that are hit by those huge windturbines.
This is making me sick, I better go to the bathroom.
Not so fast, where do you think that all goes? Sure, sure the water plant takes care of all of that. Water is all nice and clean.
But what do we do with all the solids? Lets spread it on our farm fields and contaminate them with heavy metals, chemicals dangerous bacteria and medicines you pissed out...

Seems like you know the answer to your dilemma... (hint: it was one of the central theme of the terminator movies).

 

[notthemama]

Seems like you know the answer to your dilemma... (hint: it was one of the central theme of the terminator movies).

Kill Sarah Connor?:Eek:
But why?