I'll never understand or trust the police.

[RTRD]

I'm in agreement...

Gawd: maybe your attitude that you aren't afraid to get "dirty" as you call it is the reason why you were turned down? I should think that cops would want to avoid 'getting dirty' at all costs and use physical force as a last resort due to all the scrutiny they are under.......

..."Gawd" sounds more than a wee bit arrogant, ("Gawd"?) and also seems to be the sort of guy who is always spoiling for a fight. Just because you never have started a fight doesn't mean you still aren't a bully...I've seen plenty of times where people did all they could to get someone to take a shot at them, thus justifying the dispensing of an ass kicking.

Having said that...wouldn't "because it is usually uncalled for and inappropriate" be a better reason for cops to avoid using force than "all the scrutiny they are under"?

 

[RTRD]

Well...

The correct answer is leave the party or tell the friend to stop smoking. Calling the cops on a friend, which some might think is the right answer, for a relatively small offence, is not right. Cops demand loyalty and if you would rat out your friends you could rat out your fellow cops. End of interview.

...that scares me, if indeed what you are implying is true.

I want the cops to enforce the law. Period. And I want them to ESPECIALLY enforce the law when it comes to dealing with each other.

And people wonder I do not trust cops....

 

[KBear]

...Having said that...wouldn't "because it is usually uncalled for an inappropriate" be a better reason for cops to avoid using force than "all the scrutiny they are under"?

Did Gawd write that? I remember reading it, but did not put the nic together with the comment. Now this comment seems to be gone from the thread.

 

[A-ROD]

Yeah this is certainly interesting. How is it that all these people that have tried out for LE are still hobbyists? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? I mean is it ok for LE to hobby? I don't mind, but just seems a bit weird that is all. Aside from the weed question, what they should ask is if they have ever hobbied...LOL

They are all undercover on TERB. Don't trust anyone...

 

[RTRD]

No...

Did Gawd write that? I remember reading it, but did not put the nic together with the comment. Now this comment seems to be gone from the thread.

...it was "Tboy"...

 

[Garrett]

Gawd... you sound like a little boy who wants to take his ball and go home after being picked last for the team.

Every guy I knew who was denied being a cop was denied for good reason. It always came down to the psych exam. People who have a lot of arrogance or come in spouting their people management skills usually suck at people management. I think it is something you can teach, but it does not take much to raise the red flag.

Personally, I am frickin sick of all the anti cop sentiment these days. I think they do a great job, and, if anything, I wish they were given more leeway in this town (from finances through enforcement techniques).

 

[poorboy]

Personally, I am frickin sick of all the anti cop sentiment these days. I think they do a great job, and, if anything, I wish they were given more leeway in this town (from finances through enforcement techniques).

The enforecement techniques definately should be heading more towards U.S. style submission in this town, but as far as the finances go, they really need desperate help.

They wasted millions of dollars on thier own special database software that still doesn't work and will probably have to go back to the off the shelf offering they originally rejected. They could have easily bought a helicopter with those savings. 99% of cops can't manage a 2 shitter outhouse when it comes to the department's finances. That's why they are cops and not accountants or financial analysts.

 

[Mr. Downtown]

It's no wonder the general public are more against the police each day, we can't help it when all they do is hire assholes and dumbasses.

That's my rant.

I think that the evolving pig-mentality in our public police force has grown out from the fact that they no longer consider themselves as peace officers but rather law-enforcement officers. Thats a big difference.

 

[Gawd]

This is gonna be my last post on this thing... I am not bitter (well maybe a little bit) but this was over 5 years ago and I'm not the same person I was then. Believe me when I say this, I was a by-the-book goodie boy back then, sure I had some little minor hiccups, but nothing that would reflect negatively on me. But this "double-life" I have now, was nowhere to be seen back then.

But time's passed, life's progressed and I'm more cynical nowadays. The fact that I first-handedly witnessed dumbasses and assholes become cops is the reason why my sentiment for the police is not what it used to be.

And to counterpoint, I have many cop friends who deserve to be on the services (RCMP, YRPD, Metro, OPP) as they are now, and I stay in contact with them all the time (which may or may not stress you Terbites out but enh) and I have no problem making the same comments to them. Hell, they're more open to them than you guys are!

And to make an assumption on my psyche and personality based on a buncha internet forum posts, is a little... well... y'know. But that's the point of these kinda places, to anonymously vent and opinionate.

That's it. Now back to the reviews.

 

[papasmerf]

This is gonna be my last post on this thing... I am not bitter (well maybe a little bit) but this was over 5 years ago and I'm not the same person I was then. Believe me when I say this, I was a by-the-book goodie boy back then, sure I had some little minor hiccups, but nothing that would reflect negatively on me. But this "double-life" I have now, was nowhere to be seen back then.

But time's passed, life's progressed and I'm more cynical nowadays. The fact that I first-handedly witnessed dumbasses and assholes become cops is the reason why my sentiment for the police is not what it used to be.

And to counterpoint, I have many cop friends who deserve to be on the services (RCMP, YRPD, Metro, OPP) as they are now, and I stay in contact with them all the time (which may or may not stress you Terbites out but enh) and I have no problem making the same comments to them. Hell, they're more open to them than you guys are!

And to make an assumption on my psyche and personality based on a buncha internet forum posts, is a little... well... y'know. But that's the point of these kinda places, to anonymously vent and opinionate.

That's it. Now back to the reviews.

Some of your posts indicate a problem with people. You even in this one made a vailed threat by saying you know people on the froece. I dare say good thing you did not make it. You seem to have had an idea of who you might be after.

 

[PHNINE]

This turned out to be a pretty interesting thread. Certainly pointed out some members that were invloved at one time or another with LE.

It is after all an open forum and I think we shouldn't be too critical of Gawd. He was after all just voicing some of his concerns or past experiences. How valid they are is on thing, and I am in no way supporting his views. Although I pretty much agree with what most have said, I just don't want everyone to gang up on him. But I know one thing for sure, Gawd you probably regret starting this thread in the first place given how much you have flamed for it...LOL

 

[frankcastle]

Gawd, how many times did you apply?

I imagine there are a lot of applicants and therefore by the sheer volume of people looking for the job you may get overlooked.

I'm more familiar with medical school because I applied once, I have a very good resume but I didn't get in. That being said I understand that there are roughly 6 to 10 applicants per spot and all of them have great resumes. The point I'm making here are 2 things.....

1) some people don't get in on the first try

2) I have no ill will against the health care profession because I didn't get in.

I'm sorry you didn't get in, and yes maybe some of the people that made it in were less qualified than you in some way but that's just the way it goes. We can extend this to any field of work really.

Frankly, how much did being a cop really mean to you? If it was that important why not keep trying. In my own case medicine wasn't that important and applying once was enough for me.... I looked at it as a what if situation. I didn't want to look back and wonder what if I applied. I've put that to rest and I am very happy with my current career (less money but I'm still happy.... enough for a roof, meals, toys, car and the odd rub, so I really can't complain).

No offense because I really don't know you but, the fact that you turned your failure and projected it onto others (i.e. it's not me its them) is a disturbing attitude. And that bit about cops not ratting out other cops is just wrong. How could you enforce the law on one hand and overlook it in other cases? Finally, as with any field of work we can't let the bad seeds ruin our opinions of the rest. For example, doctors and malpractice, teachers and harassment, mechanics and overcharging, priests and abuse.... these things happen but it doesn't mean we should vilify these professions or any others based on the actions of what I hope is the minority.

 

[leah_mpa]

Well I think age is also a factor, he was 28, they want fresh 19 and 20 year olds with little "worldly experience" that can be molded. By 25 I think it gets tougher to mold someone...

I know a lawyer who (just for fun) applied and was rejected by the RCMP and Metro Police even though he passed all the physicals. Many degrees and impeccable volunteer and social activities (not-terb related). One of the reasons the RCMP interviewer rejected him because he denied smoking weed (everybody does it) and had never got into a "fist fight" (was seen as a pussy).

I would say, better dumb-down on the tests and get ready to lick ass in the interviews... because with a law degree and getting interviewed by a cop with Grade 12, you may get a rough ride... "know-it-all". It will be expected that you will not follow orders...completely... you may question stuff and that is not what a good soldier (cop) does.

Let me get this straight??!! Unless you're some young, law-breaking, weed-smoking, a**-licking, low IQ person, you can not be a cop?? That means most of me and my whacker friends should be able to outsmart them!!

 

[lick_a_lot]

Weirdest thread ever!

Just curious how one guy who thinks he's the best and got called on it and turned down has become this rant. I work in HR .. alot of people don't get hired even if on paper and at face value they would look good.

That's why we have interviews.. sometimes we tell people NO because there's someting missing in there attitude. If they pull a "WTF" attitude chances are we were right.

Now I don't know how the police work but if they turned you down and later in life you show up bitchig about it on a board which promotes prostitution .... maybe they had a good reason to turf your ass.

Further more, being a citizen of this great city I don't find it reasurring that future police officers base the fact that they would be great because of this belt and the belt, "look at me I can Kick some serious ASS" syndrome doesn't make you a prime candidate in my opinion. It makes you a hot headed tough guy which this City doesn't need.

The fact that because you weren't good enough seems to have sent you in a strange direction. Why now have you lost trust .... because they said no!!

I have been arrested a few times ... guess what my fault not there's grow up move on!

 

[Hockey_MLnut]

Its all about the BRAIN

Maybe they did not hire you because they felt you were not mentally fit for the job.

 

[Doctor Zoidburg]

Understand this!

The cops are just like us. We are not much different than the cops. Whether we be Metro Toronto cops merbites or terbites, we are part of a community. In a community we have all sorts, there are good people and bad people in every community. There are people who break the rules in any community. There are hypocrites that tell you one thing and then do another. In this community we are no different than a police department, we give each other information to help us reach out objectives. (hobbying) The cops share info on solving crimes. We give each other private info in the lounge to help us in our daily life, just as the cops share info on the best berger joints and cop eateries. We are no different than them. Hell! some of us are them!

P.S. I am not a cop, I am just holding that badge that is pinned to my boxer shorts for a friend.

 

[MindJohn]

Take me for example, I'm 6'2", minority, speak 3 languages, physically fit, trained in multiple self-defence and proactive programs, educated up the yin-yang (college and university grad), no criminal record or associations, born and raised in TO, experienced in both law and computer related industries, excellent driving skills with no driving incidents (not even speeding!), possess common sense like you wouldn't believe, but most importantly, I have superb interpersonal skills, I get along with everyone and everyone gets along with me.

Basically I'm the prime candidate of exactly what they need. It's not "too good to be true" cuz I'm proven to be exactly what I offer and very capable of the job. Yet they've passed on me everytime I tried out. WTF is that?

That's my rant.

I'm wondering just how many of those traits you share in common with Saddam Hussein ?

The very fact that you see yourself as "the prime candidate" assures those who would be hiring you of the exact opposite.

That list of credentials might win you an interview with one of the local ladies who needs a night driver, however. But do emphasize that clean driving record and lack of a criminal record when interviewing.

Come to think of it, what working girl hires as her driver someone with a clean driving record and no criminal arrest record?

But with all of your advertised common sense, you already knew everything I pointed out deep down.

So why rant about it then?

 

[goodtime]

...I have many cop friends who deserve to be on the services (RCMP, YRPD, Metro, OPP) as they are now, and I stay in contact with them all the time (which may or may not stress you Terbites out but enh) and I have no problem making the same comments to them. Hell, they're more open to them than you guys are!
...

Like Gawd, few buddies and I considered joining the force. Back then it was the reverse of what it is today. Mostly white recruits given the height & weight requirement. We were told to do time as volunteer uniforms, between 300-450 hrs, before even applying.

I never bothered as they slotted Asians for undercover work. At that time, it translates to extreme high risk as community small and you stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone remember the gun in mouth @ gambling house incident?

Few friends stuck it out. Others did Security, law enforcement degrees, courts, small muncipal forces, etc before getting in.

As poorboy and A-rod stated, age and education aren't big factors. Few above 35 got in. It is true OPP & RCMP hire older recruits.

Unfortunately, you don't fit the minority hiring profile being 6'2", most minorities are 5'7" to 5'9". I bet you're also over 190lbs. Few people I know got in that you would not suspect are cops given their size: short & slim guys/gals.

The Physical test used to stopped many in the past but they relaxed it to attract minorities & women. So it's profiling worked against you.

 

[CTSblues]

I think it has nothing to do with how brilliant you are or what you can offer them. The Police Force is like an army, if you do not fit the profile they are looking for ie someone who will not question the commands of a higher up, can keep his mouth shut etc. you will not get hired. The spend a fortune on personality and character tests and if you are too smart you may not accept orders without question. In an army that could be deadly ...in a police force maybe not so deadly but they want people who will follow commands and be loyal. In other words, while you may have been a great cop for the public you may not be a great cop for the cops. They want cops who will lick ass when the commander speaks. Maybe you wouldn't.

I found, much to my surprise as well, that policing and the military attract people with different psychological profiles. Those who score high on psychopathy or Machiavellianism show great interest in policing, while those interested in the military score high on the anti-social behaviour component of psychopathy. IOW, the excitement, the power and the status of policing attract psychopaths, but the strict rules and power structure of the military does not.

After seeing how some members of the Toronto Police Union defy their Chief during the recent contract dispute, I start to appreciate the research. I don't think this kind of defiance can happen in the military.

 

[Hockey_MLnut]

Like Gawd, few buddies and I considered joining the force. Back then it was the reverse of what it is today. Mostly white recruits given the height & weight requirement. We were told to do time as volunteer uniforms, between 300-450 hrs, before even applying.

I never bothered as they slotted Asians for undercover work. At that time, it translates to extreme high risk as community small and you stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone remember the gun in mouth @ gambling house incident?

Few friends stuck it out. Others did Security, law enforcement degrees, courts, small muncipal forces, etc before getting in.

As poorboy and A-rod stated, age and education aren't big factors. Few above 35 got in. It is true OPP & RCMP hire older recruits.

Unfortunately, you don't fit the minority hiring profile being 6'2", most minorities are 5'7" to 5'9". I bet you're also over 190lbs. Few people I know got in that you would not suspect are cops given their size: short & slim guys/gals.

The Physical test used to stopped many in the past but they relaxed it to attract minorities & women. So it's profiling worked against you.

Now it is really easy to pass the qualifying exams it is just hard to get hired by the seperate police forces.