I'll never understand or trust the police.

Gawd

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They're making a pitch in the media again about how they're on a hiring blitz and how they're in dire need of more officers. What pisses me off is that they're never hiring the right people!!!

Take me for example, I'm 6'2", minority, speak 3 languages, physically fit, trained in multiple self-defence and proactive programs, educated up the yin-yang (college and university grad), no criminal record or associations, born and raised in TO, experienced in both law and computer related industries, excellent driving skills with no driving incidents (not even speeding!), possess common sense like you wouldn't believe, but most importantly, I have superb interpersonal skills, I get along with everyone and everyone gets along with me.

Basically I'm the prime candidate of exactly what they need. It's not "too good to be true" cuz I'm proven to be exactly what I offer and very capable of the job. Yet they've passed on me everytime I tried out. WTF is that?

There are people I went to school with and worked with, who have absolutely no right to be a cop, yet they are! They are the worst candidates possible yet there they are in full uniform protecting us. WTF? One guy was such an asshole, that everyone in school just basically accosted him and never interacted with him, yet he's a cop now. Another guy ratted out his partner for leaving a site while doing security even though his partner left the site to get him food, and now he's a cop. A girl nearly failed the college program and had no common sense whatsoever, and she's a cop. A guy I worked with was always on a power trip and never gave a lower leveled dude any slack, and he's a cop. See a pattern there?

This was about 5 years ago and I've given up on the police. I can't trust'em and I don't wanna be a part of'em ever. Granted, there are good cops that deserve to be there, but you never see'em.

It's no wonder the general public are more against the police each day, we can't help it when all they do is hire assholes and dumbasses.

That's my rant.
 

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Gawd:

There are any number of reasons you're not an acceptable candidate. could be you are over educated already, could be you think too much of yourself (read your post objectively and that's what I read between the lines). If one thinks they are perfect, most often they aren't.....

I know another person who had trouble getting into the cadet program, but eventually he did. He simply asked for the reasons why, and then corrected the problems or gained the knowledge they asked for, reapplied and got in.

I'll give you an example of what happened to me:

One christmas my GF was applying for part time work at the post office. Good money and good hours but first you had to pass the General Appitude test. For a lark I went with her and took the test. She passed and I failed. They wouldn't tell me why but I knew....

You see on the test they had various tests for short term memory. One page had 4 columns labelled a to d and each had 20 postal codes each. The next page had 20 postal codes and a blank next to each one, you had to put the correct column number next to each postal code. They had 7 other tests that were similar. I have terrible short term memory so that is most likely why I failed.

I thought WTF, at the time I was in charge of about 30 projects, ranging from value of $30K - $4.0 million. I had supervised crews of up to 20 union men, electricians, carpenters, riggers, I have met with presidents of large companies, hosted seminars and chaired large meetings yet I am not qualified to handle the mail? At first I was disappointed, then I thought, well, not being able to sort mail is NOT an insult, it is a compliment lol.

Even though I had all these abilities and knowledge, I don't have the RIGHT knowledge and abilities......
 

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People I know that have made the force have had to do physical tests, have education and then take a psychological test. One person I knewkicked ass on the physical, had the education, dad was a high ranking officer and then came the psychological portion. Good news is he will not be pulling anyone over anywhere.
 

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I think it has nothing to do with how brilliant you are or what you can offer them. The Police Force is like an army, if you do not fit the profile they are looking for ie someone who will not question the commands of a higher up, can keep his mouth shut etc. you will not get hired. The spend a fortune on personality and character tests and if you are too smart you may not accept orders without question. In an army that could be deadly ...in a police force maybe not so deadly but they want people who will follow commands and be loyal. In other words, while you may have been a great cop for the public you may not be a great cop for the cops. They want cops who will lick ass when the commander speaks. Maybe you wouldn't.

You tried YR yet? They are looking for cops, great place to get your feet wet before you hit Metro? Many cops start there and move on to a busier forces.
 

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My son has had much the same experience. He is 6'7" Tall, 300 lbs. He has a black belt in Ju-Jitsu and a college education in a relevant field.
He is an execellent athlete and very level headed, but can't seem to get a break.
One cop told him unless you are a vissible minority, lesbian in a wheelchair you might as well forget it.
You see women cops 5' tall maybe 100 lbs with all the gear on. They are really gonna present a view of authority.

Our police forces are going the way of our once great Canadian Military.
Heck that's a whole new thread isn't it. The Salvation Army has better equipment than our army....:confused:
 

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It may be, unfortunately, because you are too smart and eucated to be a cop. They might think you're going to get bored and not stay. Read the story from the link below:

www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/cop104.htm

A while back, a man was turned down to be a cop because he scored too high on an IQ test. They told him that he was over qualified. This is just stupid. We need smart cops.

Try dumbing down your qualifications and see what happens.
 

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Gawd said:
Take me for example, I'm 6'2", minority, speak 3 languages, physically fit, trained in multiple self-defence and proactive programs, educated up the yin-yang (college and university grad), no criminal record or associations, born and raised in TO, experienced in both law and computer related industries, excellent driving skills with no driving incidents (not even speeding!), possess common sense like you wouldn't believe, but most importantly, I have superb interpersonal skills, I get along with everyone and everyone gets along with me.

Basically I'm the prime candidate of exactly what they need. It's not "too good to be true" cuz I'm proven to be exactly what I offer and very capable of the job. Yet they've passed on me everytime I tried out. WTF is that?

Could it be the fact that you ended up on a escort review board(that reviews illegal activity) after not getting into the police force

that means you have a disposition for breaking the law(probably on your evaluation)

and you are probably nuts also, simply for the fact you are ranting about cops not wanting you on a escort review board
 

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HOLDEN: Um... 5 years ago I nowhere near this kinda place.

And overeducated is not a good excuse... it should be a better reason to get on cuz it means only one thing, specialized units requiring exceptional skills (forensics, cybercrime, etc.) and I've done my time on the frontline (security work) and you can't get any lower than that, I enjoyed it and have no problems getting dirty (hell I sometimes miss that part of the job). And as a lowly security dude, I had no choice but to follow orders. Work history and references come into play with this one, where they'll call your higher ups and ask about work ethic and performance, and every one of mine gave me superb references.

I'm not exaggerating any of this, everything I've said is true and how I describe myself is just how I am (well how I used to be anyway). My references will still give me glowing reviews. Hell I've been told by all the employment and recruitment cops that I am indeed a prime candidate (before I applied when I was researching and looking for info about becoming a cop).

And it's the police themselves who make the decision on who makes it. Here's how it goes:

1. Physical and aptitude tests
2. Application
3. Prelim interview (1 cop)
4. Full interview (3-4 cops; says yes/no)
5. Psych test
6. Pscyh eval (with shrink; says yes/no)
7. Uniform measurement
8. Offer
9. Police college
10. Probation (coach officer says yes/no)
11. Full cop

People even think I'm a cop now, even though I'm not, because of the way I speak, look, behave, etc. and Gawd, how I hate that.
 

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Juldet said:
you will not get hired...if you are too smart, you may not accept orders without question.
I'm getting a law degree in the Spring and I was seriously thinking of becoming a cop. Am I over-educated? Would they feel theatened by my knowledge of the law? or Would they see me as an asset to the force?

(And btw, if you think I'm nuts for choosing policing over becoming a lawyer, then you know nothing of how horrible law firms are)
 

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Don't forget people there are many more police agencys then the locals. There are federal as well as other localities. Millitary experience is a huge plus here.
 
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Gawd,
Are you getting rejected from all forces (services) or just Metro?
If it's just Metro, OPP or RCMP are excellent forces.
 

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I know a lawyer who (just for fun) applied and was rejected by the RCMP and Metro Police even though he passed all the physicals. Many degrees and impeccable volunteer and social activities (not-terb related). One of the reasons the RCMP interviewer rejected him because he denied smoking weed (everybody does it) and had never got into a "fist fight" (was seen as a pussy).

I would say, better dumb-down on the tests and get ready to lick ass in the interviews... because with a law degree and getting interviewed by a cop with Grade 12, you may get a rough ride... "know-it-all". It will be expected that you will not follow orders...completely... you may question stuff and that is not what a good soldier (cop) does.
 

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Ok so let me get this straight...you guys are telling me that the RCMP is turning away perfectly fine candidates that want to volunteer to be officers, yet turn around and complain they lack in people signing up? That doesn't make sense. Why are they doing this? And how can you be over qualified to be a cop? Most cops aren't exactly the sharpest guys around. Of course you have your detectives, and what not, but the average uniform cop is usually not a scholar, otherwise they wouldn't be risking their lives doing what they are doing, rather behind a desk or a 9-5 job. I dunno just seems weird that the RCMP would be turning away perfectly legitimate volunteers for dumb reason like not admitting to smoking weed, or never being in a fist fight. Are they that fucked up?
 

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Juldet said:
because with a law degree and getting interviewed by a cop with Grade 12, you may get a rough ride... "know-it-all". It will be expected that you will not follow orders...completely... you may question stuff and that is not what a good soldier (cop) does.
That's what I was afraid of. They create a profile of the type of candidate they want, and anyone who deviates from it (above or below the standards) won't be an ideal candidate.

My entire education has trained me to challenge legal authority.

And for anyone whose wondering, Policing has many benefits over law pracitce. Pension, benefits, job security...Law practice on the other hand consists of either Bay Street firms (who hire based on looks) or small firms who rarely go into business with someone they don't know.
 

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Well I think age is also a factor, he was 28, they want fresh 19 and 20 year olds with little "worldly experience" that can be molded. By 25 I think it gets tougher to mold someone.
 

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Gawd said:
I enjoyed it and have no problems getting dirty (hell I sometimes miss that part of the job). .
If this means getting into fights, and combined with your training in self defence, could be part of the reason you have been rejected.

The police are not out there to fight, they are trained and expected to avoid fights.

If you are still young the military could be a good option for you.
 

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KBear said:
If this means getting into fights, and combined with your training in self defence, could be part of the reason you have been rejected.

The police are not out there to fight, they are trained and expected to avoid fights.
But they also spend a significant time training officers in self defense methods and then they give him/her a gun.
 
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