If prostitution were legalized, what would change?

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I've been wondering what would change in general if there were no laws against or limits to prostitution here in canada or in western society in general. No need for red light districts, no raids, no john schools... etc.

How would things be different? Would more women go into the sex trade as a profession? Would prices go up or down? Would George Brown offer a diploma course on SP'ing? Would escorts/sp's form a trade union? Would there be a reality game show series?

I think it'd be awesome but I'd love to hear some ideas.
 

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Less women would die.
 

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thick1 said:
I would believe that prices would increase, because they would have to do taxreturns and pay taxes. However, If more women went into it, there would be more competition, and prices may not go up at all or possibly decrease.
That would be the least of it. If it were totaly legalized then a whole mess of things would have to happen:

They'd have to get some sort of licence, posted routine health exams and practicioners insurance.

Plus not only file tax returns, but then charge taxes for their services which means having to issue receipts and keep books for every divorce lawyer to subpoena...so goodbye annonimity.
 

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The legalization would have to be universal, it would make little difference if it was legal in Toronto, and illegal in Peel Region...so for far reaching societal changes..legalization has to be across the board...
Would prices go down?...yes and no...more women could enter the profession, and legalization would get the pimps out of the game, so in that respect, prices should go down.....however...more men would visit SPs because there would be less of a stigma attached to visiting SPs, so in that respect prices would go up!
 

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"prostitution were legalized"

What am I missing. It is legal...:)
 

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cops can finally focus on other important problems like guys who're potentially at risk of stabbing their 17 yr old sis and beheading their sister etc etc... leave us harmless hobbists alone
 

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masterchief said:
... cut the above
Plus not only file tax returns, but then charge taxes for their services which means having to issue receipts and keep books for every divorce lawyer to subpoena...so goodbye annonimity.
How so? I don't give my name to retail stores I deal with and I get a receipt there, so why would I have to give my name to any SPs?

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grooverider said:
How so? I don't give my name to retail stores I deal with and I get a receipt there, so why would I have to give my name to any SPs?

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Well your local retail store isn't offering a physical service. Look at places where prostitution is legal...its considered a health-type offering.

And in a licence crazy city like Toronto...imagine what they'd do.

Also the retailer is selling you a item whose inventory trail they can producer to the government for income tax purposes, not a service.
 

Schon

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Adult Industry should be treated like a full fledge Industry, which will create jobs, the girls would start paying taxes, and in return they would get all facilities in return like they can have house mortgages, credit cards, can do their normal banking in their own name or their in-corporations,(Most of the SP's i have met, and they have always shown their resentment that they have no proof to show their incomes, due to which they are not entitled for issuance of reputable Credit Cards, nor they can apply for mortages) lead a normal happy life no fear of L.E. busting them, & law is there to protect them in event of any untoward ugly incident, like they do with any common citizens, they would be able to merge fully into society and communities without fear or shame, plus their prices would based on supply and demand basis. Out-call/Incall Agencies would open freely at any commercial complexes, and operate their business in a normal manner like doing any other business, competition would keep everyone on their toes for providing better services, and private health insurance would be mandatory for their monthly check-up's
& this would eliminate Pimps/Boyfriends/protectors who live on their incomes
& would open venues for males to open such businesses in a legal manner, and definitely crime in this sector would also decrease, & finally even Senior Citizens would get 50% discounts twice a week to full-fill their urges/ & have some recreation for themselves in their age at an official discounted rates like other european countries have such system, & our Govt. would earn a huge revenue in form of Taxes form people who are associated with Legal Recretion Houses, plus tourism would definitely increase manyfolds just across south of our border & we can even earn huge foreign eachange too.
Finally the adult population of Canada would enjoy this hobby without any fear and most of them would start using their plastic cards to pay for the legal recreation services for their stress relieving hobby.I am sure that the taxes the Govt. would earn would be any day bigger than they are currently earning from L.C.B.O. or O.L.G. adult industry can be a much bigger Industry for Revenue Canada!
 

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4player said:
I've been wondering what would change in general if there were no laws against or limits to prostitution here in canada or in western society in general. No need for red light districts, no raids, no john schools... etc.

How would things be different? Would more women go into the sex trade as a profession? Would prices go up or down? Would George Brown offer a diploma course on SP'ing? Would escorts/sp's form a trade union? Would there be a reality game show series?

I think it'd be awesome but I'd love to hear some ideas.

First prostition is LEGAL in Canada. And 2nd, red light districts are what legalized prostition would be; as legalized alchol has the LCBO. Now, removing the laws that current restrict is another story; that is no HIV tests, no restriction to workers working with dangerous aliments, no underage limits. I seriously dont think you mean a no limit society . . .

What you want changed, I imagine, is brothels being legal and open advertising bieng legal, both of which are currently illegal. So when you can have coke and Maconald's have ad's for SP's, and you can ask any one at abar how much?
 

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masterchief said:
Well your local retail store isn't offering a physical service. Look at places where prostitution is legal...its considered a health-type offering.

And in a licence crazy city like Toronto...imagine what they'd do.

Also the retailer is selling you a item whose inventory trail they can producer to the government for income tax purposes, not a service.
True, but I can go and see a RMT for a massage (without the happy ending) and not show ID and pay cash. Then it is up to me to forward the receipt to my insurance company for reimbursement. I still don't see where I would have to show ID, I doubt this would be covered by OHIP.

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You're dreaming if you think that the sex workers would willingly start paying taxes. They would continue to operate on a cash basis in the shadows to avoid that I'm sure. It's largely a cash industry and the clients largely don't want any records kept. You don't need very much in the way of investment in equipment, or a permanent office for that matter. The only way to get sex workers to pay taxes would be if the gov't started seriously cracking down on them but as industries go, it's probably one of the easiest ones to hide from the tax man. (I often wonder if some of the bigger Escort Agencies pay their taxes since they would be quite easy to bust.) One might argue that if the workers started paying taxes the prices would have to go up, but I doubt that too since they pretty much charge what the market will bear now. If they doubled their rates to account for taxes (which is about what it would be) business would fall through the floor.

The only advantage I could see is that the workers and their customers would not have to worry about getting busted and having a criminal record.

Then again, as someone correctly pointed out, outcalls are already legal in Canada, it's incalls and street walking that are illegal.

I really don't care about incalls, but street walking can be a detriment to the people who live in the area. Unless they want to build a redlight district, I have no issue with Street Walking being kept illegal.
 

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the taxman would cum and and take away all the money! what else is new?
 

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Ok, so you mean if the laws..

4player said:
I've been wondering what would change in general if there were no laws against or limits to prostitution here in canada or in western society in general. No need for red light districts, no raids, no john schools... etc.

How would things be different? Would more women go into the sex trade as a profession? Would prices go up or down? Would George Brown offer a diploma course on SP'ing? Would escorts/sp's form a trade union? Would there be a reality game show series?

I think it'd be awesome but I'd love to hear some ideas.
..related to prostitution were repealed in Canada.

There would be fewer murdered SPs.
There would be fewer SPs assaulted.
There would be fewer SPs blackmailed, extorted and coerced
There would be fewer SPs ripped off.

Multiply these numbers BIG time for the USA and the few other dark age societies:mad: .
 

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Schon said:
Adult Industry should be treated like a full fledge Industry, which will create jobs, the girls would start paying taxes, and in return they would get all facilities in return like they can have house mortgages, credit cards, can do their normal banking in their own name or their in-corporations,(Most of the SP's i have met, and they have always shown their resentment that they have no proof to show their incomes, due to which they are not entitled for issuance of reputable Credit Cards, nor they can apply for mortages) lead a normal happy life no fear of L.E. busting them, & law is there to protect them in event of any untoward ugly incident, like they do with any common citizens, they would be able to merge fully into society and communities without fear or shame, plus their prices would based on supply and demand basis. Out-call/Incall Agencies would open freely at any commercial complexes, and operate their business in a normal manner like doing any other business, competition would keep everyone on their toes for providing better services, and private health insurance would be mandatory for their monthly check-up's
& this would eliminate Pimps/Boyfriends/protectors who live on their incomes
& would open venues for males to open such businesses in a legal manner, and definitely crime in this sector would also decrease, & finally even Senior Citizens would get 50% discounts twice a week to full-fill their urges/ & have some recreation for themselves in their age at an official discounted rates like other european countries have such system, & our Govt. would earn a huge revenue in form of Taxes form people who are associated with Legal Recretion Houses, plus tourism would definitely increase manyfolds just across south of our border & we can even earn huge foreign eachange too.
Finally the adult population of Canada would enjoy this hobby without any fear and most of them would start using their plastic cards to pay for the legal recreation services for their stress relieving hobby.I am sure that the taxes the Govt. would earn would be any day bigger than they are currently earning from L.C.B.O. or O.L.G. adult industry can be a much bigger Industry for Revenue Canada!
Great post but..how about some paragraphs next time....my retinas are burning




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4player said:
I've been wondering what would change in general if there were no laws against or limits to prostitution here in canada or in western society in general. No need for red light districts, no raids, no john schools... etc.

How would things be different? Would more women go into the sex trade as a profession? Would prices go up or down? Would George Brown offer a diploma course on SP'ing? Would escorts/sp's form a trade union? Would there be a reality game show series?

I think it'd be awesome but I'd love to hear some ideas.
Terb would make alot more money. Imagine so many more sp's to review.
 

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Bear669 said:
..related to prostitution were repealed in Canada.

There would be fewer murdered SPs.
There would be fewer SPs assaulted.
There would be fewer SPs blackmailed, extorted and coerced
There would be fewer SPs ripped off.

Multiply these numbers BIG time for the USA and the few other dark age societies:mad: .
Please would you explain to me what it mean SPs?
My english is not pretty good, thanks in advance
 

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Weros said:
Please would you explain to me what it mean SPs?
My english is not pretty good, thanks in advance
SP = Service Provider in a most elegant and polite manner, over here we call the lady as SP or if she is of higher end we call her Courtesan, we have few
Courtesan Category girls/ladies also here in GTA, who would not liked to be called just SP's LOL! so better know the protocols of Adult Industry for your future reference when you start hobbying.
 

Master Muse

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Legalization

Look at a place where it is relatively legal: Nevada. There, it is legal in the way opposite way from Canada. Outcalls are not permitted; only a licensed brothel may provide services. Brothels are legal in limited rural/low population county. E.g., there are no brothels in Las Vegas or Clark County wherein it is located. What do you find in Las Vegas? Whatever you want? Just no brothels. NV brothels are not much fun for the ladies. Generally they have to stay a week at a time, live there, pay room and board [yes], oay for their weekly doctor's inspections, pay taxes on their earnings with the general spllit at 50/50 less the costs mentioined. No unions just do as the brothel owner says. The TO ladies have a much better deal and so do the TO guys.

Were i you, I'd leave the Canadian system alone. It's the most rational approach I know.
 

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4player said:
I've been wondering what would change in general if there were no laws against or limits to prostitution here in canada or in western society in general. No need for red light districts, no raids, no john schools... etc.

How would things be different? Would more women go into the sex trade as a profession? Would prices go up or down? Would George Brown offer a diploma course on SP'ing? Would escorts/sp's form a trade union? Would there be a reality game show series?

I think it'd be awesome but I'd love to hear some ideas.
New Zealand recently transitioned from something similar to the Canadian model to something more liberalized. Solicitation and incalls are now legal there. Parts of Australia are now following suit.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_New_Zealand
 
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