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if indy sp drops her rate because of covid...

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Fradi

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I would move on if I were you.
She is obviously not interested in you or value your business.

Now if she applied the same lower rates to you and you decided that you like her enough to pay her previous rates or give her the difference as a tip because you have always enjoyed your time with her that would be a whole different story and I would probably do that with someone I was seeing regularly before.
 

dvidi76

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asuran: probably, but over the past few months she has been contacting me to see her, even thru the covid months, i declined each until recently because of the virus. I believe she is the type to tell you upfront if its over...this last time she just says "the meeting tomorrow is cancelled, enjoy the weekend"
a while back we had a meeting and half way thru we got into a sensitive conversation, and she cancelled the meeting halfway thru it because of it. i of course apologized and she replied like 4 days later, (and even requested to make schedule a date).

Fradi, I was expecting to go to the meeting to pay the lower rate, and i was going to gift her something anyways that would have ended up being more, like I have with her in the past. the fact is she made a point of it 2 days before the meeting that I have to pay her old rate. even in my last apology this time I told her that I would get her something extra as an apology for all this...
 

ActionJ

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Shit, this is like a bad marriage. OP, end this NOW. Dont be a Simp. You can afford $550 + per date. There are better choices out there in both the professional and civilian capacities.
 

G.D. Gentleman

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dvidi76 - hopefully you have seen enough support here that you deserve a better experience, the relationship with this particular SP has become toxic - be thankful you can just walk away and move on - no breakup conversation, no divorce, you just wake up tomorrow and it's behind you.

You're not alone, many of us know that feeling of being a little - or a lot - hooked on a favorite SP. Hopefully this thread gives your head the shake it needs to start fresh and find someone awesome and hell, with your budget - you will have a blast with her when you do!
 

oil&gas

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There is really no need to spend time with someone (whether they're charging you $200/hr or $550/hr), if they don't want to be spending their time with you.

A $550/hr sp would do a better job in getting to
know her client intimately than one who charges
$200/hr. In all likelihood she would already have
her client's personal details in the screening process.
For a client who is willing to pay that kind of money
and to divulge sensitive ID info you can bet that
services paid for and received would be deeper
than mere sexual gratification. Emotional attachment
is not a easy bond to break.
 

legendspirit

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A $550/hr sp would do a better job in getting to
know her client intimately than one who charges
$200/hr. In all likelihood she would already have
her client's personal details in the screening process.
For a client who is willing to pay that kind of money
and to divulge sensitive ID info you can bet that
services paid for and received would be deeper
than mere sexual gratification. Emotional attachment
is not a easy bond to break.
That's a lot of assumptions and honestly a load of crap. From my experience a higher rate doesn't translate to better services or even a better looking woman.
 

Bmin7b5

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She is taking advantage of your kindness and generosity. I think you deserve better.

Find someone else that can treat you better than she has ... it shouldn't be that hard to do.

If and when she messages you about making plans you can do any of these
- ghost her /not bother to reply (why waste your time)
- tell her you have made other plans
- tell her you are not really interested in what she is offering
- tell her you have decided to move on
- tell her thanks but no thanks
- tell her you have better things to do
 

Samranchoi

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thanks. I already apologized the other day. this is not the first time this kind of thing happens with her. she's ghosted me a few times already, usually the more bad it is the longer she takes to reply, she does it on purpose. she's cancelled a ton of appts with me over the past year for many bullshit reasons.
I don't see any reason why she would stop seeing me over this. i was not trying negotiating rates, i just tried to make her aware that I knew her price was lower on her site, she made some excuse that her assistant made a typo on the site and it was going to be fixed soon.
How many times have you actually seen her over the past year?
How long are your typical sessions?
When in a session, how do you feel?
How do you think she feels?
Does she show genuine appreciation when you visit her?
Does she show genuine appreciation for the gifts you give her?
Do your sessions ever go over the allotted time and she is ok with no further compensation?
Is she the only SP you are seeing? If yes, does she know this? If no, does she know? How does she feel about either situation?
Do you ever talk or text informally, off the clock? If she invests her personal time with you that is a good sign.
Does she want you to see her on special occasions?
Does she ever go out in public with you, either socially or on a paid date?
Does she ignore all texts/calls when she is with you?
Do you enjoy your conversations with her?
Are you and her comfortable with each other?

I know, lots of questions but it is obvious you really like this woman. But if for most of the questions you have no clue how to answer them or if they result in a negative response, it is best to cut ties with her because you are only a client to her. On the other hand, if the responses are mostly positive, then you have a tough decision because you have more than just a physical attraction to her but at the end of the day, it is apparent you are only a client to her. Good luck in whatever decision you make.
 

oil&gas

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That's a lot of assumptions and honestly a load of crap. From my experience a higher rate doesn't translate to better services or even a better looking woman.
Nowhere did I suggest those who charge a higher rate
are better looking. Depending on how you define
better services I did not mean to say higher priced
SPs necessarily provide better services. They
however are more likely to do a better job
catering to clients' needs at a emotional level.
If better services mean better BJ skills I can
see thata lower-priced SP can do a better job.
 

kherg007

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There are fantastic ladies in this biz at (agency) 250 or (indy) 300 ph. Move on for sure.
 

y2kmark

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Unquestionably pass. She needs a lesson on price elasticity IMHO...
 

Fradi

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Fradi, I was expecting to go to the meeting to pay the lower rate, and i was going to gift her something anyways that would have ended up being more, like I have with her in the past. the fact is she made a point of it 2 days before the meeting that I have to pay her old rate. even in my last apology this time I told her that I would get her something extra as an apology for all this...
That is exactly the problem that she was insisting on the previous higher rate with you, it shows that you are merely an ATM with her. She should have let you make up the difference on your own as a gift.
I know it is hard to break when you think you have a strong relationship It is important to many.

I would never want to lose what I have with my ATF, she is the kindest and most gorgeous woman I could have found.
Yes it is a client/companion relationship but we have also become friends. I have seen others and I have enjoyed the time I spent with all of them, but they are not in her league when it comes to me but if she ever tried what this lady is doing with you I would not see her again.
The really good ones don’t make you feel like a client and will never treat you like that.
Forget the apology, move on, you deserve better.
 

asuran

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asuran: probably, but over the past few months she has been contacting me to see her, even thru the covid months, i declined each until recently because of the virus. I believe she is the type to tell you upfront if its over...this last time she just says "the meeting tomorrow is cancelled, enjoy the weekend"
a while back we had a meeting and half way thru we got into a sensitive conversation, and she cancelled the meeting halfway thru it because of it. i of course apologized and she replied like 4 days later, (and even requested to make schedule a date).
I am seeing a "she needs you, she'll find you. She don't need you, she'd cancel on you" type situation. Very, very one-sided.
Maybe there is something about her that continuously attracts you to her but for me, I'd recognize that this would not be a situation for me and I would move on.

However there are guys that would enjoy these type of situations/relationships and it is ok as long as they/you find satisfaction in it without things getting out of hand.
 

Jasmine Raine

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it wasn't about money.
her rate was lowered 100$/hr from 550 to 450$/hr. i prebooked 2 hours.
the day before the meeting she told me that there was a mistake(but i knew its not)) on her site and that I had to pay her higher price (550$/hr as in the past) not the new lower price on the site. I took it personal when i heard that, that everyone else had to pay less than i was going to pay. (but i have been seeing her for a year)
i did not say no or yes, I just told her that i thought I was going to pay the rate that was on her site like everybody else was. she cancelled the appt soon after that with no reason, just its cancelled. I of course apologized the next day, and told her that I would pay the fee she wanted me to pay. I have not heard a reply from her since the cancellation.

would be nice to hear an opinion from a SP on this.
My opinion, she should have advertised the post Covid rate as a new client discount. Meaning for any new client. That would have made more sense. It would just be a lure for new clients and not something that would last. In that regard, I would get it. Just like grandfathering a rate for a client. The individual client rate is the individual client rate

In this case, with only hearing your side and not knowing the SP in question or her reasonings - which may be sound - it does appear that you are getting the short end of the stick for whatever reason and I agree that moving on would probably be your best bet.

She could very well be doing what the guys here have said, or as she said, the assistant made the mistake. You will know if the site has been changed back.

But most importantly is now you feel taken advantage of and most times, there is no coming back from that anyways. No one wants to feel taken for granted. Plus she feels a negative way now too. So move past it and find a new escort. That is my suggestion.
 
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MuffDiver

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That would be unacceptable to me and I would find a new regular. It's the principle of the matter to me.
 

Fradi

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My opinion, she should have advertised the post Covid rate as a new client discount. Meaning for any new client. That would have made more sense. It would just be a lure for new clients and not something that would last. In that regard, I would get it. Just like grandfathering a rate for a client. The individual client rate is the individual client rate
Do you think that is the right thing to do or in anyway a smart move.
Wouldn't say much to how she treats her regulars.
This is exactly what Bell and Videotron does, pisses me off to no end.

The big difference is that there is really only two viable choices with them.
When it comes to SP however there are many.
 

Jasmine Raine

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Do you think that is the right thing to do or in anyway a smart move.
Wouldn't say much to how she treats her regulars.
This is exactly what Bell and Videotron does, pisses me off to no end.

The big difference is that there is really only two viable choices with them.
When it comes to SP however there are many.
You lost me. Hobbyist have more options and can go anywhere.

I'm not here to judge another SP, especially when I am only hearing one side of the story with no real context from her.

I'm just saying that business wise, offering a discount to attract new clients as a one time thing, is less insulting as grandfathering a higher rate.

Offering a one time discount to new clients is not a slight against regulars. None of my regulars would think that. Not with the way I treat them. They would understand the purpose.

And to be honest, I don't know if I would mesh well with a person who would be so slightly offended by a one time discounted new comer rate.

However I think the higher price point is what is throwing guys. If a $200/hr lady offered new clients $180/hr, no one would be really saying anything. It is more about the fact that it is a $550 lady going to $450.
 

Fradi

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You lost me. Hobbyist have more options and can go anywhere.

I'm not here to judge another SP, especially when I am only hearing one side of the story with no real context from her.

I'm just saying that business wise, offering a discount to attract new clients as a one time thing, is less insulting as grandfathering a higher rate.

Offering a one time discount to new clients is not a slight against regulars. None of my regulars would think that. Not with the way I treat them. They would understand the purpose.

And to be honest, I don't know if I would mesh well with a person who would be so slightly offended by a one time discounted new comer rate.

However I think the higher price point is what is throwing guys. If a $200/hr lady offered new clients $180/hr, no one would be really saying anything. It is more about the fact that it is a $550 lady going to $450.
I wasn’t looking at it as a one time discount but as a permanent discount or new rate to all newcomers and the higher previous rate to regulars or in this case maybe just to this poor guy only.
Personally I don’t really care what an SP charges someone else. If I like her and and she is kind to me it is up to me to decide whatever her rate is if I am willing to pay it.
I don’t have an issue with pricing anyways, every escort I have seen so far was well worth it as far as I am concerned and my ATF, well I am just lucky to know her and have her as a friend.

btw it really doesn’t matter if we are talking about $200 to $180 or $550 to $450 it is the principal of what she is doing that counts.
This is what I meant by Bell usually offering a one or two year deal to newcomers which is much more favourable than what an existing customer gets who may have been with them for 10-20 years.
I have yet to hear of grandfathering in a higher rate lol. I doubt it is a trend that will catch on.
 

Jasmine Raine

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I wasn’t looking at it as a one time discount but as a permanent discount or new rate to all newcomers and the higher previous rate to regulars or in this case maybe just to this poor guy only.
Personally I don’t really care what an SP charges someone else. If I like her and and she is kind to me it is up to me to decide whatever her rate is if I am willing to pay it.
I don’t have an issue with pricing anyways, every escort I have seen so far was well worth it as far as I am concerned and my ATF, well I am just lucky to know her and have her as a friend.

btw it really doesn’t matter if we are talking about $200 to $180 or $550 to $450 it is the principal of what she is doing that counts.
This is what I meant by Bell usually offering a one or two year deal to newcomers which is much more favourable than what an existing customer gets who may have been with them for 10-20 years.
I have yet to hear of grandfathering in a higher rate lol. I doubt it is a trend that will catch on.
I think you missed something about a grandfather higher rate. I don't think it will "catch on" either but I didn't imply it was really a thing. Just something this one escort apparently tried to do with her client. I guess maybe my phrasing threw you off.

Having said all I have, I think the main take away is he should move on. The discussion of money has soured things for both parties.
 
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