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Re: 2000 official election results

WoodPeckr said:
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm

This shows that Gore did indeed win in 2000 before the GOP Supreme Court came in and staged a 'political coup' and stole the election for Dubya in a 5 to 4 vote, thereby NULLIFYING the vote of the people in the USA and NULLIFYING the 2000 election.

No one ever disputed that Al Gore won the popular vote. Which indeed he did.
However in the USA the president is not elected by popular vote. He is elected by the electoral college. Look it up.
Your above statement falls into the same category as the " draft conspiracy"
It is not factual and is only repeated to spread lies and to missinform the voters.

BTW, according to your quoted chart, W did win FL.

While I don't always agree with the power of trial laywers in the USA, they are sometimes able to uncover and/or fight in justice.
If there would be serious grounds for voter fraud in Florida 2000 I can assure you that the Cochrans of the world would have found a way to profit from it.
 

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Re: langeweile, my friend.

DonQuixote said:
There you go again!!!!

There are trial lawyers for the plaintiff, and
there are trial lawyers for the defendant.

Operative concept: both sides are represented by trial lawyers.

Maybe lawyers should be excluded and ministers and social workers
should represent the parties.

Then you can bitch and moan about their power.

Don
Hey calm down Don, you sound like a laywer.
My point was that if there was any alleged irregularities, some laywer would have taken up the issue already.

On Laywers:
If you are on, than it would explain your love affair with the D's.
The Trial Laywer Assn. is one of the top ten campaign contributors. See below.
Don't worry I still respect you, even if you are a laywer. LOL

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.asp?ID=D000000065
 

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Re: langeweile, my friend.

DonQuixote said:
True, but the Wall Street law firms are the biggest contributors
to the Bush campaign.

I keep stating over and over again I'm not a D.
I'm an anarchist. Please don't slander my good name
and reputation again or I'll have to lance your bubble.

I'm against Bush because Iraq is an unjust war.
My opinion is based on my reading and understanding of
the great philosophers of Western culture from Augustine of
Hippo to the present.

Our invasion and occupation of Iraq is an unjust and immoral act.

IMHO. Don
Viewing life with rose colored glasses looking through
a sniper's scope.
http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topcontribs.asp?cycle=2004

When you say Wallstreet Laywers are you referring to brokerage houses?
Looks like they are the highest contributors to the R's.

Sorry for calling you a D. I can see how this coud offend you..LOL
 

WoodPeckr

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Re: Re: 2000 official election results

langeweile said:


BTW, according to your quoted chart, W did win FL.

The reason Bush 'won' Florida was because Katherine Harris, remember her, illegally took over 46,000 DEM voters off the voter poll lists to keep them from voting. This RIGGED the election and enabled Bush to STEAL the 2000 election.

The Florida voters are again up in arms! It seems that Katherine Harris (that Ilsa the She-Wolfe of the GOP Gestapo figure, from election 2000 notoriety) is back and up to her old dirty 'rig the vote' tricks AGAIN. Law suits have been filed against her attempts to continue, as expected, to keep Democracts in Florida from voting by hook & by crook. It looks like after 4 years since the last election Jeb Bush's Florida is still as screwed up as ever.....not that this is any surprise. :D
 

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WoodPeckr,

In a court of law we are all innocent until proven guilty.

While your comments sound good on a Democratic pep rally, where is the proof?
Who got convicted of fraud?
Going back to my previous point..if there would have been just the slightest suspicion of actual wrong doing. Some laywer would have taken the opportunity to make a name for himself.

Well maybe it was just all part of a BIG conspiracy.....yeah right.
 

WoodPeckr

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langeweile said:
WoodPeckr,

In a court of law we are all innocent until proven guilty.

While your comments sound good on a Democratic pep rally, where is the proof?
Who got convicted of fraud?
Going back to my previous point..if there would have been just the slightest suspicion of actual wrong doing. Some laywer would have taken the opportunity to make a name for himself.

Well maybe it was just all part of a BIG conspiracy.....yeah right.
Law suits have been filed against Florida and frau Katharine Harris for denial of voter registration for minor flaws in filling out voter registration forms. It seems that Harris is back to her old tricks of finding ways to keep people from voting if it looks like they will vote for someone other than Dubya.

NPR radio did a story on this recently filed lawsuit, just yesterday.
 

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Re: langeweile, my friend.

DonQuixote said:
Next time you get into legal problems I suggest
you seek the assistance of a social worker.
I imagine it would be a matter of conscience for you.
You certainly wouldn't want your good name by
being associated with an attorney.

Don

PS: Thom Jefferson said the law is the new religion of America.
That makes me a high priest of justice. Damn, that's real
power.
Where do you get the notion that I don't like laywers??Is your paranoia playing tricks on you?

One of the great things about our legal system is, that even a small guy can take on a large corporation without having to go bancrupt.
The worse thing about our legal system is...see above.

The third branch of goverment should not be strapped of his powers. I wish there would be a way to curb those frivolous lawsuits. I have been on the receiving end of such a suit.
Lucky for me, the judge saw the handwritng on the wall, and ruled in my favour.
My problem with this is ,all the time and money that had been spend for an asshole with no case.

People like you and me are paying for those who want to make a quick buck through the legal system. Usually in form of higher insurance premiums etc...like any business..higher operating costs mean higher prices, while some of them can be absorbed with efficencies some of them are being passed on to the consumer.
 

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langeweile said:
Just because somebody files a lawsuit against you, doesn't make you automatically guilty.
Right...
Are you talking about 2000 or 2004?
2004, heard the story on NPR radio yesterday.
 

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Re: langeweile

DonQuixote said:
Humm!! It depends on what services are requested.
I'm considering posting a list of services similar to SPs.
Normal and extraordinary.
Being a member of the second oldest profession it seems at
this point to be a reasonable approach.

Except more of a male SP.

Not only can I f*** you while you're alive I can f*** your estate
after you're dead - kinda like necrophelia.

Don't drop your wallet with me behind you.

Maybe I should start a new thread asking for help from
the board. This could really get spicy.

I may even get censured by the moderators and have to practice
my appellate skills.

Don
You are such a slut...
 

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War crimes!

Maybe Clinton should be charged with war crimes for what he did in Bosnia. What exactly was that war about again? Ethnic cleansing turned out to be a hoax.
 

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Re: War crimes!

Cinema Face said:
Maybe Clinton should be charged with war crimes for what he did in Bosnia. What exactly was that war about again? Ethnic cleansing turned out to be a hoax.
This kind of thinking reminds me of the right-wingers in present day Germany who say Hitler never killed 6 million Jews, or those that deny the "Killing-Fields" of Cambodia ever existed.......

Here's a story on what's going on in Serbia now:

Bosnian Serbs admit scale of Srebrenica massacre for first time

2 hours, 28 minutes ago
Top Stories - AFP

BANJA LUKA, Bosnia-Hercegovina (AFP) - Bosnian Serb authorities admitted for the first time that Serb forces slaughtered more than 7,000 Muslims in the 1995 Srebrenica massacre, Europe's worst atrocity since World War II.

"I am confirming that the number (of victims) is higher than 7,000. I cannot reveal the exact figures. It is up to the government to do it," an official from a special investigative commission told AFP Thursday on condition of anonymity.

In June the Bosnian Serb government admitted for the first time that Serb forces had committed the massacre and tried to cover up the crime, but it avoided giving a definite figure on the number of victims.

The commission included the figure of more than 7,000 victims -- a number which conforms to most independent assessments -- in a report it presented to the Bosnian Serb government on Thursday.

"I think that the commission made the most objective and the most correct list of those killed in Srebrenica," commission member Djordje Stojakovic told AFP, without revealing the figures.

"We had more than 30 sources of information but the list is not final. I'm not sure that there will be a final list ever."

Srebrenica is the first episode in the bloody break-up of former Yugoslavia that the UN war crimes tribunal at The Hague (news - web sites) has ruled constituted genocide.

Bosnian Serb forces overran the enclave, which was supposed to be under UN protection, in July 1995.

Women and children were allowed to flee the enclave in eastern Bosnia, but Muslim men and boys were rounded up and the International Committee of the Red Cross estimates that more than 7,000 of them were subsequently killed.

In 2002, the Bosnian Serb government issued a report which minimized the number of victims, triggering outrage among survivors and the international community.

Most Bosnian Serbs deny that the massacre took place and continue to regard their political leader during the country's 1992-95 war, Radovan Karadzic, and his military commander, Ratko Mladic, as heroes.

Both men have been indicted by the UN tribunal at The Hague for war crimes and genocide for their alleged roles in the Srebrenica massacre, but remain at large somewhere in the former Yugoslavia.

The genocide is also the basis of key charges laid against former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic (news - web sites), who has been on trial at The Hague for more than two years.

Massacre survivors said it was about time the Serbs admitted the scale of the slaughter, but warned that more information was needed on the whereabouts of the culprits and the locations of hidden mass graves.

"Considering the scale of the crime, it is a success that after nine years the number of victims is being confirmed," the head of the Srebrenica mothers association, Munira Subasic, told AFP.

"But we also want to find out from the report who the perpetrators are. Who were those who took away our kids? We would also like to know where they were buried."

So far more than 6,000 bodies have been exhumed from mass graves near the town. Some 1,327, identified by DNA anlaysis, have been buried at a Srebrenica memorial site but another 5,000 remains are yet to be identified.



Post-war Bosnia consists of two semi-independent entities -- the Serb-run Republika Srpska, which includes Srebrenica, and the Muslim-Croat Federation.

Bosnia's war claimed some 200,000 lives and more than two million people, over half the country's population, were forced to flee their homes.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041014/ts_afp/warcrimes_bosnia_srebrenica
 

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WoodPeckr

Thanks for the article.
The Yugoslavia conflict was how long ago? This article was published when?
Point,
It took about 8 or 9 years for this to come out, but we are getting impatient after nearly two in Iraq?
HMMMM
 

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langeweile

The article was put on Yahoo News today.

Unfortunately there is no end in sight for either of those places plus dozens of other places around the world.

Bush seems to cast himself as 'Policeman of the World', vis-a-vis, his War on Terror which has no end in sight. If this course continues on THERE IS NO DOUBT THE MILITARY DRAFT WILL BE RE-INSTITUTED IN THE USA.
 

langeweile

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Yugoslavia was started by Clinton.

The war on terror will never end no matter what. Terror as a means of change is as old as mankind.

There will be no military draft. Bush doesn't have the power to do it.
There is a good chance that the R's will loose the senate and possibly the congress. (Which in my opinion is a bigger deal than loosing the presidency)
Once the senate or the house is held by the D's a draft would not be possible unless the D's agree.
What are the chances of that??
 

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DonQuixote said:
Sorry to say if Bush were charged with war crimes
so too would I for following orders in 'Nam.
Who is more culpable? Those that issue the orders
or those that pull the trigger!!
Doesn't matter does it, both are illegal and would be prosecuted. Have you turned yourself in yet?

OTB
 

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WoodPeckr said:
THERE IS NO DOUBT THE MILITARY DRAFT WILL BE RE-INSTITUTED IN THE USA.
Never - and I mean never happen.

OTB
 
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