I was amazed..

..A recent conversation with a guy I've know a while brought up concept I never imagined.

I am of the opinion, that not only (If you are a real man) are you responsible for any child you sire....YOU are also responsible for your parents as they age.

If they can not afford a reasonable lifestyle..you must in help.

You must help them with their expenses, and also by providing chores/service around their house.

While your kids come first, your parents come second.

This guy I was talking too, who came from a decent home (as far as I can tell) said he had no obligation to his parents.

What do you think?
 
Diode said:
..A recent conversation with a guy I've know a while brought up concept I never imagined.

I am of the opinion, that not only (If you are a real man) are you responsible for any child you sire....YOU are also responsible for your parents as they age.

If they can not afford a reasonable lifestyle..you must in help.

You must help them with their expenses, and also by providing chores/service around their house.

While your kids come first, your parents come second.

This guy I was talking too, who came from a decent home (as far as I can tell) said he had no obligation to his parents.

What do you think?
Sorry Dad, I'm too busy to come over and take out your trash today and I can't make a run to the beer store for you!
Perhaps you could get Mom to stop on her way home from the bingo hall.
 
Diode said:
This guy I was talking too, who came from a decent home (as far as I can tell) said he had no obligation to his parents.

What do you think?

Things are not always as they seem. It's surely no revelation that some families are conventionally decent and loving but under the surface, its members seethe with hatreds and grievances.

jwm
 
Not all parents are good parents, so I can see some people not feeling the obligation. And to say it's "Western" culture is a misnomer. It may be WASP culture, as most countries around the Med, including the founders of Western culture, Greece and Italy, place high-value on taking care of parents.

Me, yes, my parents will be taken care of, because they have taken care of me, and still help out now, particularly with my children. That's just how we do it. But my dad made me promise that if he couldn't wipe his own ass or get out of bed, put him in a home asap. He does not want that burden on us. Frankly, he does not want to live like that either, but then who would?

Reality for me is that my SO and I had children later in life, so we're going to be in the unenviable position of still raising our kids as we have to take care of our parents. It has already started, and the stress is pretty high right now.
 
I made light of the situation in my earlier post, but the reality is I find it disgusting the way we treat our elders.
All to often they are neglected and abused and exploited because they are unable to fend for themselves. I think other cultures offer much better family environments where multiple generations live together. It makes so much sense for so many different reasons.
My parents are in their 80's and I cherish the opportunity to do anything I can for them. I will regret the day they are not around to call on me to do anything for them.
 
jwmorrice said:
Things are not always as they seem. It's surely no revelation that some families are conventionally decent and loving but under the surface, its members seethe with hatreds and grievances.

jwm

Yeah..I guess so.
However for as many bad Parents there are..I'd bet there would be at least as many rotten kids, to whom the parents remained obligated.

Does a rotten childhood absolve one fro doing what's right?
 
moresex4me said:
Not all parents are good parents, so I can see some people not feeling the obligation. And to say it's "Western" culture is a misnomer. It may be WASP culture, as most countries around the Med, including the founders of Western culture, Greece and Italy, place high-value on taking care of parents.

Me, yes, my parents will be taken care of, because they have taken care of me, and still help out now, particularly with my children. That's just how we do it. But my dad made me promise that if he couldn't wipe his own ass or get out of bed, put him in a home asap. He does not want that burden on us. Frankly, he does not want to live like that either, but then who would?

Reality for me is that my SO and I had children later in life, so we're going to be in the unenviable position of still raising our kids as we have to take care of our parents. It has already started, and the stress is pretty high right now.

Sure..Going to a 'Home' might be the right thing to do...
I did not mean becoming a nurse...(however I know some kids who do)
I mean ensuring your Parents are looked after...Is it an Obligation?
I think it is.
 
if you were raised by good parents you will develop a strong sense of duty and always look out for them, if you were raised by idiots, chances are you too are an idiot and it's every one for themselves.
 
Diode said:
..A recent conversation with a guy I've know a while brought up concept I never imagined.

I am of the opinion, that not only (If you are a real man) are you responsible for any child you sire....YOU are also responsible for your parents as they age.

If they can not afford a reasonable lifestyle..you must in help.

You must help them with their expenses, and also by providing chores/service around their house.

While your kids come first, your parents come second.

This guy I was talking too, who came from a decent home (as far as I can tell) said he had no obligation to his parents.

What do you think?

Assuming you have healthy kids your "obligation" to them ends around 18. Assuming you have a healthy relationship with your parents, yes you have an obligation to help your folks out in my opinion.
 
Diode said:
You're not serious about my obligation to my kids ending at 18.

Obligation to kids never ends, in my opinion, ever. As long as you can, you continue to do what you can for them.
 
As much as my parents sometimes drive me nuts, I know that if I am ever really in trouble, they will be there for me. Therefore, I will always be there for them! I know my brothers and sisters feel the same way.
 
Sukdeep said:
Maybe it's payback for the parents booting them out when they turn 18.

Or maybe it's payback for the parents beating the living shit out of the children under the euphemism "discipline". Or maybe it's because the children saw the way their parents treated the grandparents and learned by example. Or maybe it's a backlash against the sense of entitlement that most seniors today have.
 
My parents now deceased lived with us for a number of years. They were a big part of the family enjoyed interacting with my 3 kids,helped out when and if they could.Really got POd when we wouldn't take "rent" from them. My mom lived with us until she had to go into a Nursing Home due to Alzheimers.

My in laws are the same,lived close by actually across the street for 25 years and live 4 blocks away in a nice Apt. building.They too were very active with the kids even to this day and are now GREAT GRANDPARENTS.

I feel you do what you can for your parents We do the washing help with their rent so they can stay in their apt.Both have health problems and we take them to Dr's Appt etc.

I realize some people did not have a good childhood or good parents.BUT they are still your parents.

THE CIRCLE OF LIFE

You might not like them etc but when they are gone who will miss them
 
Like the old saying, "what comes around, goes around". If parents raise their kids right, that chances of the kids helping out in later years are pretty good. But if the parents were too strict or just treated the kids like crap, they shouldn't be supprised if the kids cut them loose.
 
The person you are speaking of might feel they only have themself to worry about.


They will die alone and that is justice.