I am not a good boss.

demien2k5

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Some people need a year or more to cope with the loss of a child.
I get what you're saying fuji, but honestly, no one ever gets over the loss of a child, nor does it ever get any easier to deal with as time goes on. Days simply pass, one after the other, and the massive hole in your life is always there.
 

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I get what you're saying fuji, but honestly, no one ever gets over the loss of a child, nor does it ever get any easier to deal with as time goes on. Days simply pass, one after the other, and the massive hole in your life is always there.
I am sure that is true. Not really sure why anyone was comparing that to taking a single day off to deal with the death of a pet.

As I said, when my employees bring these requests my reaction is based on their history. A solid employee who is rarely sick doesn't need to give an explanation, if they say they need a day for a personal matter I trust that they do.

A guy who slacks and takes every possible sick day and always had excuses will get told no.
 

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I am sure that is true. Not really sure why anyone was comparing that to taking a single day off to deal with the death of a pet.

As I said, when my employees bring these requests my reaction is based on their history. A solid employee who is rarely sick doesn't need to give an explanation, if they say they need a day for a personal matter I trust that they do.

A guy who slacks and takes every possible sick day and always had excuses will get told no.
Ever feel guilty about it and go whine to an escort board about it? It just not fit in how 'bosses' act IMHO :)
 

mrsCALoki

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Well I thought he was just asking for some feedback... after all as you said....................

you start threads and it's conversing, he starts a thread and he's whining. too funny :D
hun,

People who make it in business and upper management seem to all pretty much share certain traits:

1) They do not go on on about decisions they already made. Confidence is important.
2) They make evidence based decisions. They do not decide something has to be just because they heard a rumor or like an idea.
3) They they understand the basic rules of management in a situation like that.

Since he does none of the above I can only assume..... it is all BS.

:)
 

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and I thought I wasn't a good boss because I blackmailed a pretty young wife for sex so that her husband could get a job with me.
 

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I have never seen a compassionate leave policy cover the loss of a pet. I have seen them extend out to other family members such as in-laws, cousins, etc. but never a pet. Having her take a vacation day or an unpaid day seems reasonable.
 

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Since he does none of the above I can only assume..... it is all BS.
For someone who gets shirty when people assume that the identity they present in this forum is not reflective of the actual person behind it, you seem eager to cast aspersions.

Here's a killer idea: howzabout we all assume that posters are who and what they say they are? Or at least ACT like we assume they are who they say they are. Granted, as soon as someone leans on that identity to make a critical point ("as a doctor, I say..." "as a lawyer, I say..." or my favourite "I am not a shill and I say..."), we should be a bit skeptical. But as long as it is a harmless little anecdote, why not play along? Even if you don't really believe it in yer (*cough* allegedly female *cough*) heart of hearts, why not just, I dunno, view it as a thought experiment? Act and post as if you take it at face value, even if you don't really.

I'm sure nobody (say, that's me!) will play along, because our anonymous pseudonymified identities here are so precious and important after all, but a boy can dream. ...And by "boy" I mean fat, grumpy middle-aged man. (or at least that's what I pretend to be online)
 

mrsCALoki

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For someone who gets shirty when people assume that the identity they present in this forum is not reflective of the actual person behind it, you seem eager to cast aspersions.

Here's a killer idea: howzabout we all assume that posters are who and what they say they are? Or at least ACT like we assume they are who they say they are. Granted, as soon as someone leans on that identity to make a critical point ("as a doctor, I say..." "as a lawyer, I say..." or my favourite "I am not a shill and I say..."), we should be a bit skeptical. But as long as it is a harmless little anecdote, why not play along? Even if you don't really believe it in yer (*cough* allegedly female *cough*) heart of hearts, why not just, I dunno, view it as a thought experiment? Act and post as if you take it at face value, even if you don't really.

I'm sure nobody (say, that's me!) will play along, because our anonymous pseudonymified identities here are so precious and important after all, but a boy can dream. ...And by "boy" I mean fat, grumpy middle-aged man. (or at least that's what I pretend to be online)
Well nobody, actually he took a swipe at me. Even claimed there was a thread where I said I was a guy. A mysterious thread that no one except him noticed. I dislike being lied about. I dislike the attitude of people who just generate facts to prove their lies have validity.

At one point several friends piped up to admit to knowing and meeting LL, I, or both of us.

They got all kinds of flack for saying it, and all the 'capitolboys' just ignored it.

So I feel free to point out how he is a sources of BS.

I seldom retaliate unless attacked.
 

benstt

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That being said, this is also an admin assistant. Fact is, they are more easily replaced and the turn over rate is higher for an entry level position. I wouldn't give it a second thought. The fact that you even brought it up here meant you probably felt a bit guilty. Just send her some flowers on admin appreciation day and thank her for her hard work.
A good admin assistant is a very valuable find. Execs take them with them when they move to new positions and companies.
 

K Douglas

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Its not a child; its a cat. I have children and I (have had) pets. She is a mother and a grandmother of actual humans. Where do you suggest the line be drawn? I draw it a humans.
I agree with you, it's a cat for crying out loud. I've had many family pets and not once did their death keep me from functioning.
 

gcostanza

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It's not even a dog, it's just a cat.... Geesh
I was sad when my brother's dog died, but meh, it's only a dog.

When my parent's cat died, I was significantly more upset.

To each their own.
 

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I agree with you, it's a cat for crying out loud. I've had many family pets and not once did their death keep me from functioning.
Can't wait until the Planet of the Apes (in this case cats & dogs) happens ... boy, are you in trouble
 

nobody123

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I seldom retaliate unless attacked.
Attacking his bona fides makes you look churlish and gives free reign to everyone who wants to take pokes at your own online identity. Howzabout be the bigger man.... Or woman, as the case may be. Take swipes at what a shit boss he is, (if he is), and not whether or not he actually is a boss.
 

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i am sure tagging her for the day helped her. you may not understand the grief she is feeling but she also wasn't being productive. so you tell her to go home and come back tomorrow refreshed and feeling better. if she calls in the next day then you say something but the day of you could have let it slide.

no you are not a bad boss, you did what was best for the company but sometimes what is best for the company is keeping the slaves happy.
 

niveamen

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hun,

People who make it in business and upper management seem to all pretty much share certain traits:

1) They do not go on on about decisions they already made. Confidence is important.
2) They make evidence based decisions. They do not decide something has to be just because they heard a rumor or like an idea.
3) They they understand the basic rules of management in a situation like that.

Since he does none of the above I can only assume..... it is all BS.

:)
LOL sorry this made me laugh. Ask Loki if he agrees with you. Sorry sweetheart, bosses come in all shapes and sizes. Some are good, some are jerks, others are just lazy family members. If all management was good; then there wouldn't be the worse CEO awards. I can bet you Steve Job would think this admin assistant is crazy and get yelled at for not answering his email 2 in the morning.
 

mrsCALoki

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LOL sorry this made me laugh. Ask Loki if he agrees with you. Sorry sweetheart, bosses come in all shapes and sizes. Some are good, some are jerks, others are just lazy family members. If all management was good; then there wouldn't be the worse CEO awards. I can bet you Steve Job would think this admin assistant is crazy and get yelled at for not answering his email 2 in the morning.
He told me you are right. He said it is just one more example of a bad boss personality.

He had managers who agonized over difficult decisions for ages after they were done.

I hate when I am wrong :(.
 

mrsCALoki

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Attacking his bona fides makes you look churlish and gives free reign to everyone who wants to take pokes at your own online identity. Howzabout be the bigger man.... Or woman, as the case may be. Take swipes at what a shit boss he is, (if he is), and not whether or not he actually is a boss.
Yes I got the lecture about jumping to conclusions already.

OK, bad boss for the second guessing himself and for not talking to HR and for creating precedence that could damage the company. :)
 
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