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Point very well taken, Muggs.The Mugger said:
I do think that there needs to be a realization of -- or shall I say a break from -- the "story" that the Shrub is a "man of the people" and is virtually free from criticism. His numbers are in Nixon-land and the so-called left wing media have yet to start reporting that his ratings are in the shitter AND describing them that way to the American people. Clinton's numbers, at his worst, were a good 10%-20% higher, and yet if we were to look at a comparison of news coverage -- Clinton was always on the defendsive because the press contributed mightily to reinforcing the BS coming from the Republican party.
The low numbers for the Shrub cannot be ignored forever. Furthermore, his almost infintesimal standing among blacks is an amazing accomplishment. Again, he was credited with siphoning substantial votes of blacks away from Kerry and that was one of the reasons he won. This recent turn of events is not going to change very quickly. Members of the black church who pimped themselves to get money from Bush's "faith-based initiatives" are exposed as frauds for supporting someone who, in the words of Kanye West, "doesn't like black people."
Finally, the Plame treason outings is NOT Washintgton politics-as-usual. The negative fallout of the expected two dozen indictments will be tremendous and very, very bad for the Republicans. To fully understand the import of the Plame outing, I suggest that you and others read "The Importance of the Plame Affair," by George Friedman, dated 10/17/2005. Friedman works at STRATFOR, a security and defense intelligence agency not associated with the government (http://dailykos.com/story/2005/10/18/51459/246).
All that said, the Democrats have to take advantage of this. And, contrary to what some here think, Howard Dean is leading a 50 state strategy to take back the country. Others -- Wes Clark, John Kerry, Al Gore, for example -- are people who are people with integrity who have been tested in the crucible of politics. For the right wingers who would laugh at the last two, both came within a hairs-breadth of winning the Presidency (as did Richard Nixon or, in the case of the nomination, Ronald Reagan); Gore having been made President by the Supremes on a one-tme-only-forever decision and Kerry having lost for many reasons, among them outright fraud on the part of Republicans in intimidating black voters and in not supplying enough voting machines in many heavily Democratic precincts. To the latter loss, I would add the Repubs' delay in releasing several reports (including part of the 911 Report) that were critical of Bush until after the election; reports that might have tipped the balance Kerry's way.
I still have my champagne in the fridge.
Champagne is getter nicely cold
1. Apparently Mr DeFrank, the author, has quite the relationship to Bushco. He cowrote James Baker's "The Politics of Diplomacy" and in 2001 The Weekly Standard suggested he'd been in the running to be chief Pentagon spokesman.
2. This article shows that all of Bush's tales for the past two years about "wanting to get to the bottom of things" is shown to be a LIE.
3. Let look at the sequence of events. In 2003, Rove tells Bush that he is the leaker. Bush is pissed off. Rove goes before the grand jury and doesn;t remember or know who leaked. Rove then goes back before the grand jury and suddenly remembers his Matt Cooper conversations. Perjury anyone?
4. Scott McClellan has been swearing up and down for the past two years that Rove is innocent, So if the Daily News story is true, Bush has been letting MCClellan lie before the WH press corps for the past two years.
I invite my right wing Bush apologist friends to try to interpret this article in any other way.
What's that phrase? "It's not the sex. It's the lies."
Two additional points:
1. Apparently Mr DeFrank, the author, has quite the relationship to Bushco. He cowrote James Baker's "The Politics of Diplomacy" and in 2001 The Weekly Standard suggested he'd been in the running to be chief Pentagon spokesman.
2. This article shows that all of Bush's tales for the past two years about "wanting to get to the bottom of things" is shown to be a LIE.
3. Let look at the sequence of events. In 2003, Rove tells Bush that he is the leaker. Bush is pissed off. Rove goes before the grand jury and doesn;t remember or know who leaked. Rove then goes back before the grand jury and suddenly remembers his Matt Cooper conversations. Perjury anyone?
4. Scott McClellan has been swearing up and down for the past two years that Rove is innocent, So if the Daily News story is true, Bush has been letting MCClellan lie before the WH press corps for the past two years.
I invite my right wing Bush apologist friends to try to interpret this article in any other way.
What's that phrase? "It's not the sex. It's the lies."
You are like clockwork.onthebottom said:
We knew that you could be counted on the misspell a word that had appeared correctly spelled over a half-dozen times in the same thread.
And you laugh at my supposed lack of education? Bwahahaha.
http://www.champaign.com/
TO, you have now come clean: you have admitted to what was obvious all along - you are an American Hater. Thus, your diatribes have no more value than those of some sick terrorist fuck. You are what you portray, a hate monger, one who subtracts value everytime he engages in what he loves.
Incidentally, Champagne by definition is French. Once you have your bottle sufficiently chilled, I suggest that you insert it in your well experienced rectum and blow it out your ass.
Incidentally, Champagne by definition is French. Once you have your bottle sufficiently chilled, I suggest that you insert it in your well experienced rectum and blow it out your ass.
Weak. Very weak, Vietor.Vietor said:
Since you reference absolutely nothing that I have written that reinforces your high-handed opinion of me as a hater, I can only conclude (again) that you are yet another spolied rightwinger whose thumb is stuck in his mouth while at the same time his head is up his ass.
Please do us a favor and do not subject us any more to your crayon-scratched doodling and drooling. Get Bush's cock out of your mouth when you have something meaningful to say. You are just another conservative meat-puppet.
Ghost of Joe McCarthy Rides Again with Team 'W'
Good Night, and Good Luck" -- Joe McCarthy Rides Again
10/19/05 "ICH "Whenever I have a dream, I ask myself: "Why this dream now? What is happening in my life at this moment that would engender these particular images?" The same question has to be asked about "Good Night, and Good Luck," George Clooney's powerful docudrama about the McCarthy era of the 1950s: "Why make this film now? Is there something happening in our society, our media, our politics that would make audiences resonate with a low-budget film, shot in black and white, about that era in America?"
It seems clear that director Clooney and co-writer Grant Heslov see a direct contemporary parallel with the anti-communist political witch-hunting of the 1950s, the unwillingness of most of the media to take on the bullyboy of that era. In our own time, an arrogant bullying Administration is ruining the country, running roughshod over the Constitution, and questioning the patriotism of any who oppose them, much as Senator Joe McCarthy did with anyone who raised questions about his methods of hunting down suspected Communists. Except these days, of course, one substitutes "terrorists" for "communists."
Think I'm exaggerating? How about the White House orchestrating a smear of Ambassador Joseph Wilson because he publicly questioned Bush's twisted evidence for going to war in Iraq -- and then, as a special revenge-bonus, key Administration officials outed Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, as a covert CIA officer? (Indictments in this case, and the coverup that followed, are expected within the next week or two.)
How about White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan questioning the patriotism of veteran correspondent Helen Thomas just a few days ago because she "expressed her concerns" about the Bush Administration's handling of the Iraq War? Here's the official transcript of the key exchange, including ABC's Terry Moran nailing McClellan. Thomas has asked several questions about Bush's policies in Iraq: McCLELLAN: Well, Helen, the President recognizes that we are engaged in a global war on terrorism. And when you're engaged in a war, it's not always pleasant, and it's certainly a last resort. But when you engage in a war, you take the fight to the enemy, you go on the offense. And that's exactly what we are doing. We are fighting them there so that we don't have to fight them here. September 11th taught us --
THOMAS: It has nothing to do with -- Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
McCLELLAN: Well, you have a very different view of the war on terrorism, and I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism. The President recognizes this requires a comprehensive strategy, and that this is a broad war, that it is not a law enforcement matter. Terry.
TERRY MORAN: On what basis do you say Helen is opposed to the broader war on terrorism?
McCLELLAN: Well, she certainly expressed her concerns about Afghanistan and
Iraq and going into those two countries. I think I can go back and pull up her comments over the course of the past couple of years.
MORAN: And speak for her, which is odd.
McCLELLAN: No, I said she may be, because certainly if you look at her comments over the course of the past couple of years, she's expressed her concerns --
THOMAS: I'm opposed to preemptive war, unprovoked preemptive war.
MR. McCLELLAN: -- she's expressed her concerns.
Link to balance of article....it only gets better:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10665.htm
Musings on Vietor and other fools & blowhards of his ilk........Vietor said:
Good Night, and Good Luck" -- Joe McCarthy Rides Again
10/19/05 "ICH "Whenever I have a dream, I ask myself: "Why this dream now? What is happening in my life at this moment that would engender these particular images?" The same question has to be asked about "Good Night, and Good Luck," George Clooney's powerful docudrama about the McCarthy era of the 1950s: "Why make this film now? Is there something happening in our society, our media, our politics that would make audiences resonate with a low-budget film, shot in black and white, about that era in America?"
It seems clear that director Clooney and co-writer Grant Heslov see a direct contemporary parallel with the anti-communist political witch-hunting of the 1950s, the unwillingness of most of the media to take on the bullyboy of that era. In our own time, an arrogant bullying Administration is ruining the country, running roughshod over the Constitution, and questioning the patriotism of any who oppose them, much as Senator Joe McCarthy did with anyone who raised questions about his methods of hunting down suspected Communists. Except these days, of course, one substitutes "terrorists" for "communists."
Think I'm exaggerating? How about the White House orchestrating a smear of Ambassador Joseph Wilson because he publicly questioned Bush's twisted evidence for going to war in Iraq -- and then, as a special revenge-bonus, key Administration officials outed Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, as a covert CIA officer? (Indictments in this case, and the coverup that followed, are expected within the next week or two.)
How about White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan questioning the patriotism of veteran correspondent Helen Thomas just a few days ago because she "expressed her concerns" about the Bush Administration's handling of the Iraq War? Here's the official transcript of the key exchange, including ABC's Terry Moran nailing McClellan. Thomas has asked several questions about Bush's policies in Iraq: McCLELLAN: Well, Helen, the President recognizes that we are engaged in a global war on terrorism. And when you're engaged in a war, it's not always pleasant, and it's certainly a last resort. But when you engage in a war, you take the fight to the enemy, you go on the offense. And that's exactly what we are doing. We are fighting them there so that we don't have to fight them here. September 11th taught us --
THOMAS: It has nothing to do with -- Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
McCLELLAN: Well, you have a very different view of the war on terrorism, and I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism. The President recognizes this requires a comprehensive strategy, and that this is a broad war, that it is not a law enforcement matter. Terry.
TERRY MORAN: On what basis do you say Helen is opposed to the broader war on terrorism?
McCLELLAN: Well, she certainly expressed her concerns about Afghanistan and
Iraq and going into those two countries. I think I can go back and pull up her comments over the course of the past couple of years.
MORAN: And speak for her, which is odd.
McCLELLAN: No, I said she may be, because certainly if you look at her comments over the course of the past couple of years, she's expressed her concerns --
THOMAS: I'm opposed to preemptive war, unprovoked preemptive war.
MR. McCLELLAN: -- she's expressed her concerns.
Link to balance of article....it only gets better:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10665.htm
TOVisitor said:
No actualy TOV that was your boyfriend. But hey can't blame you for tring to turn it around.
TOVisitor said:
But you have not written anything but noise
Any content you ever post is by others.
OK papa. I will assume you have ten fingers and ten toes. Let's use JUST the fingers, so that we do not tax your sub-100 IQ too much.papasmerf said:
Count to eight. Count that many posts above this one. Look at that. I actually said something myself. A revelation for you. Now return to this post.
Start again. Count to nine (that's one less than all of your fingers). I will wait while you do that ................ Good boy! Count nine posts above this one. Look at that! Another revelation. I can actually put together more than two sentences with my own thoughts. I know that in your experience it's a rather hard thing to actually envision -- someone can actually post more than two sentences at a time -- it's something you never do.
Ooops, stop your drooling. You are making a mess of yourself again. Good boy.
DOH! It's almost time for your meds! Be a good little boy and run along now. Bye!
One more thing ... be sure to pick up the seat when you pee in the toilet! You have been making SUCH a mess. Maybe you ought to go back to wearing that white diaper? And that matching white hat! So dashing!
TOVisitor said:
WOW a personal attack how unlike you. BTW humans have 8 fingers and two oposable thumbs. Its all about the joints on how we view fingers. I won't insult you by revieling your IQ but you may want to consider not going beyond cut and paste.
ps: check it out in your FUNK and Wagnle
Must make you feel superior pointing out other peoples shortcoming...you are a class guy..harleycharley said:
These are the first indictments in over 130 years of someone in the WH. You think that is not serious?
Libby lied to a federal grand jusy. THat is not serious?
Libby found out about Plame from Cheney (it's in the indictment). LIbby said he found out from a reporter. And Cheney let LIbby lie for the past two years without saying anything. That's not serious?
In the indictment, every WH official of note is referred to by their name or title -- except Rove -- and that's not serious?
While there were not 22 indictments, there were 5. So far. I never said 22 people.
Rove is still under investigation.
Libby is as close to Cheney as my left nut is to me. I popped my first bottle and have my second chilling
Libby lied to a federal grand jusy. THat is not serious?
Libby found out about Plame from Cheney (it's in the indictment). LIbby said he found out from a reporter. And Cheney let LIbby lie for the past two years without saying anything. That's not serious?
In the indictment, every WH official of note is referred to by their name or title -- except Rove -- and that's not serious?
While there were not 22 indictments, there were 5. So far. I never said 22 people.
Rove is still under investigation.
Libby is as close to Cheney as my left nut is to me. I popped my first bottle and have my second chilling
