Hypothetical question : If I tripled your money for you, how much should you give me. ( compensation )

[Jasmina]

I've already made back whatever I have invested in crypto through trading over the last year alone, everything else going forward is pure gains, and there is still a ton to gain if you operate under the standard buy low sell high model. But not everyone has the bawls to hold. Holding is key.

Actually, as an example, I cashed in a quick $350 today just because I decided I wanted some new paint supplies on a whim and didn't want it to come out of my general budget.

I do not have a lot of confidence in Crypto these days.

 

[Jasmina]

Also, Pet Value sounds like a solid stock, they don't have any real competition and aren't going anywhere. Do they offer dividends? I am done with cannabis stock, both the big ones I bought into are down (aurora and high tide).

The Valens Company Inc. (VLNS.TO)

Nova Cannabis Inc. (NOVC.TO)

Pet Valu Holdings Ltd. (PET.TO)

I will not be there to hold your hand, you will have to determine your own entry and exit points.[

You can pick pretty much any three random stocks in a volatile sector. It’s the entry and exit points that are going to make you money. (Or lose your money).

 

[y2kmark]

Crema Cat wants to be my Julian Fantino.

But I do like where he's going with this. I just put 2 K into ceramics.

I've been putting a lot into the old ceramic myself today. One to many bowls of chili last night I think...

 

[fall]

I've already made back whatever I have invested in crypto through trading over the last year alone, everything else going forward is pure gains, and there is still a ton to gain if you operate under the standard buy low sell high model. But not everyone has the bawls to hold. Holding is key.

Actually, as an example, I cashed in a quick $350 today just because I decided I wanted some new paint supplies on a whim and didn't want it to come out of my general budget.

Can you find two fundamental mistakes in the above post (other than a "buy low sell high")? Think for a second and then look down for the answer:












1) No matter how much you made in the past, any amount you will lose in the future is a loss, not "pure gains". Your prior losses and gains do not matter when you are making your investment decision.

2) The fact that you need money to buy something should not influence your investment decision. There are no "general budget" and "investment budget". They are all the same and are called "money"

 

[Jasmina]

No.

Let me expain crypto trading to you in the simplest way possible: I bought 1 coin (as an example) for exactly X amount of dollars, and sold off just part of that one coin when the market rate went up, for the exact same X dollars I initially bought the full coin for.

I still own a partial amount of coin, but have already re-couped my investment. That partial remaining coin will continue to grow in value.

I cannot lose that initial X dollars again no matter what happens to the crypto from hereon in, because I already cashed out my initial investment.

Only two things can happen now, the value tanks and the partial coin left becomes worthless, or I sell it when market is high and I make gain. (But in my case, I already sold off more than my initial investment at about 300% ROI).

Ummm, nearly everyone who handles money has a budget, any wise investor has an investment portion allocated in their budget. I own stocks as well, but I don't trade in them, those are all long term holds.

But thanks for playing.

Can you find two fundamental mistakes in the above post (other than a "buy low sell high")? Think for a second and then look down for the answer:






1) No matter how much you made in the past, any amount you will lose in the future is a loss, not "pure gains". Your prior losses and gains do not matter when you are making your investment decision.

2) The fact that you need money to buy something should not influence your investment decision. There are no "general budget" and "investment budget". They are all the same and are called "money"

 

[anonemouse]

Minimal risk, Maximum upside. Do you have nerve to put a few bucks out on Monday? 95% accuracy track record.


The Valens Company Inc. (VLNS.TO)

Nova Cannabis Inc. (NOVC.TO)

Pet Valu Holdings Ltd. (PET.TO)

As I write this at 1245 pm:

Valens - down 7.2% today
Pet Valu - down 3.75% today
Nova Cannabis is your big success story, it's only down 1.05% today

"Minimal risk, Maximum upside" = absolutely no chance I'd ever trust what you're promoting. You strike me as being the stock market equivalent of a guy I used to work with who would constantly go on and on about how much money he made at the slot machines over the weekend.

 

[Mr Bret]

If you had $10K and with my advice you turned it into $30K what would be a fair compensation.

When might this hypothetical question become a real offer?

 

[fall]

No.

Let me expain crypto trading to you in the simplest way possible: I bought 1 coin (as an example) for exactly X amount of dollars, and sold off just part of that one coin when the market rate went up, for the exact same X dollars I initially bought the full coin for.

I still own a partial amount of coin, but have already re-couped my investment. That partial remaining coin will continue to grow in value.

I cannot lose that initial X dollars again no matter what happens to the crypto from hereon in, because I already cashed out my initial investment.

Only two things can happen now, the value tanks and the partial coin left becomes worthless, or I sell it when market is high and I make gain. (But in my case, I already sold off more than my initial investment at about 300% ROI).

Ummm, nearly everyone who handles money has a budget, any wise investor has an investment portion allocated in their budget. I own stocks as well, but I don't trade in them, those are all long term holds.

But thanks for playing.

And this is where you are wrong.
Scenario 1: Assume you bough a coin for $5,000, it increased in value to $10,000, and you sole half of it. Then the coin drops in value to $8000
Scenario 2: You bought a coin for $5,000, it increased in value to $10,000. You sold it an bought half of the same coin. After that the coin drops in value to $8,000.

Both scenarios are identical. In both scenarios you first win $5,000 and then lost $1000.

And there is no such thing as "investment budget". You have your wealth, your income, and your future expected income. Each time you decide what to buy and how much to safe and then invest your savings.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

When might this hypothetical question become a real offer?

I only share with family and some friends that were in dire straits last year when they had to close their business...........and a few other exceptions. Civilian career ladies have an obsession about keeping their nest egg intact and enhancing it, I also share with three lady friends ( with benefits ). I would not do it for 10% or even 50% of the gains. I take care of myself and the others I take care of I do it for no fee.

As I write this at 1245 pm:

Valens - down 7.2% today
Pet Valu - down 3.75% today
Nova Cannabis is your big success story, it's only down 1.05% today

Mother Superior,

You jumped the gun. Pre market open I determined that it would be a bad trading day and there would be many stocks that will go lower as the markets open. This for some people is a set back, for me it is opportunity. If you have confidence in a stock it will rebound. As all three of my picks did. A stock can open at a certain price, go lower then higher and close at below open and you can still make a profit. It all depends on what you do. All three of my picks had windows of opportunity for profit today. From 10:54 to market close, Valens had a 5.13% window of opportunity for profit. From 9:33 to 9:52 Nova Cannabis had a 1.37% window for profit and Pet Value from 9:45 to 2:05 had a 5.77% window of profit. Anyone skilled in technical analysis can determine the low and high points and take most of that profit. I believe all three of these picks still have some power and will go higher with Pet Value being the best of the three. So where you see loss, I see gain.

 

[Jasmina]

SMH. Crypto isn't stock. And your math is as filled with error as your grammar and your logic.

How you "decide" how to spend weath, expected or realized, is literally called a budget, you fucking moron.

And this is where you are wrong.
Scenario 1: Assume you bough a coin for $5,000, it increased in value to $10,000, and you sole half of it. Then the coin drops in value to $8000
Scenario 2: You bought a coin for $5,000, it increased in value to $10,000. You sold it an bought half of the same coin. After that the coin drops in value to $8,000.

Both scenarios are identical. In both scenarios you first win $5,000 and then lost $1000.

And there is no such thing as "investment budget". You have your wealth, your income, and your future expected income. Each time you decide what to buy and how much to safe and then invest your savings.

 

[fall]

SMH. Crypto isn't stock. And your math is as filled with error as your grammar and your logic.

How you "decide" how to spend weath, expected or realized, is literally called a budget, you fucking moron.

Wow, you sure know how to defend your point of view in an intelligent way. You said "Actually, as an example, I cashed in a quick $350 today just because I decided I wanted some new paint supplies on a whim and didn't want it to come out of my general budget". What is "general budget"? is this the amount you decide to spend each month? Buying paint DID come from your "general budget", you just decided to increase it. Let me give you an unsolicited suggestion that may help you to appear more intelligent: stick to the business you know (SPing) and leave the finance to people who spent years learning about it. Because you sound almost as ridiculous as Ceiling Cat. I promise not to give you advice on how to get more paying clients in exchange for you not posting stupid finance-related statements .

 

[Jasmina]

Oh so now you accept a budget is a thing. SMH. You sound stable...

Wow, you sure know how to defend your point of view in an intelligent way. You said "Actually, as an example, I cashed in a quick $350 today just because I decided I wanted some new paint supplies on a whim and didn't want it to come out of my general budget". What is "general budget"? is this the amount you decide to spend each month? Buying paint DID come from your "general budget", you just decided to increase it. Let me give you an unsolicited suggestion that may help you to appear more intelligent: stick to the business you know (SPing) and leave the finance to people who spent years learning about it. Because you sound almost as ridiculous as Ceiling Cat. I promise not to give you advice on how to get more paying clients in exchange for you not posting stupid finance-related statements .

 

[anonemouse]

I only share with family and some friends that were in dire straits last year when they had to close their business...........and a few other exceptions. Civilian career ladies have an obsession about keeping their nest egg intact and enhancing it, I also share with three lady friends ( with benefits ). I would not do it for 10% or even 50% of the gains. I take care of myself and the others I take care of I do it for no fee.




Mother Superior,

You jumped the gun. Pre market open I determined that it would be a bad trading day and there would be many stocks that will go lower as the markets open. This for some people is a set back, for me it is opportunity. If you have confidence in a stock it will rebound. As all three of my picks did. A stock can open at a certain price, go lower then higher and close at below open and you can still make a profit. It all depends on what you do. All three of my picks had windows of opportunity for profit today. From 10:54 to market close, Valens had a 5.13% window of opportunity for profit. From 9:33 to 9:52 Nova Cannabis had a 1.37% window for profit and Pet Value from 9:45 to 2:05 had a 5.77% window of profit. Anyone skilled in technical analysis can determine the low and high points and take most of that profit. I believe all three of these picks still have some power and will go higher with Pet Value being the best of the three. So where you see loss, I see gain.

So you pick 3 stocks, but it's up to us when we buy in and when we get out?

I take back my previous offer of 10%. This advice is literally worth nothing.

But it lets you move the goalposts to say (after the fact) when we should have gotten in, and when we should have gotten out.

To a serious investor, you're a joke. Keep telling me how much you're making at the slot machines.

 

[Ponderling]

What was not mentioned in the original post was the time frame, or the source of the advice.

Here is the real world example.
Wife orders a lot via Amazon for a few years, and still does..
Puts $5k into her TFSA one year, and says lets look at AMAZ.
It trades in USD, and was trading about $800 per share.
ITrade research sources suggested it had good long term prospects.
There was some cash in the account from other stocks profit harvesting, so she bought 10 shares.

Paid the broker $9.99US as commission, and the currency spread they skimmed off to get the USD for the buy.
Still hold shares to this day, and it trades for more than 3100USD per share at last glance.
Actually added to the position when it dipped below 2900.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

So you pick 3 stocks, but it's up to us when we buy in and when we get out?

I take back my previous offer of 10%. This advice is literally worth nothing.

Mother Superior,

I made no offer of advice for compensation. As I said several times before, I would not do it for a miserable 10% nor would I even do it for 50%.
It is not worth it for me to coach you and hold your hand.

However, so that you do not feel as bad going away empty handed. I will give you my free analysis of my three picks at this point. Nova Cannabis is probably played out for now, so keep away from that. Valens and Pet Valu
still look good for the next day or two with Valens being the better of the two.

 

[anonemouse]

However, so that you do not feel as bad going away empty handed.

I ignored your advice entirely and completed, and I sincerely don't feel like I left empty handed.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

I ignored your advice entirely and completed, and I sincerely don't feel like I left empty handed.

Mother Superior,

You jumped the gun...............again! If you had taken my advice you would be up a few bucks. Pet.to had a 5.93% window of profit from 9:45 to 1:10. Valens had a 6.27% window of profit from 9:34 to 11:04. I told you that Nova Cannabis looked like it was all played out, but it rallied at the end of the day and was up 8.14%. You see, even I am not infallible. I am only right 95% of the time.

 

[anonemouse]

Mother Superior,

You jumped the gun...............again! If you had taken my advice you would be up a few bucks. Pet.to had a 5.93% window of profit from 9:45 to 1:10. Valens had a 6.27% window of profit from 9:34 to 11:04. I told you that Nova Cannabis looked like it was all played out, but it rallied at the end of the day and was up 8.14%. You see, even I am not infallible. I am only right 95% of the time.

So you're telling me that you have the ability to pick three stocks and then you can pick arbitrary points where you could have gotten in and then gotten out and turned a profit? If you would like I can do the same with any three random stocks.

Again, you're a joke.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You guys arent seriously considering taking stock market advice from Ceiling Cat, are you??

 

[Ceiling Cat]

So you're telling me that you have the ability to pick three stocks and then you can pick arbitrary points where you could have gotten in and then gotten out and turned a profit? If you would like I can do the same with any three random stocks.

Res Ipsa Loquitur

A Latin term meaning "the thing speaks for itself".

Do you deny the result of the last few days? Both Valens and Pet.to turned a 5%+ gains when I told you they would. I offer no advice ( at any price ). For future stock picks I refer you to Phil C. McNasty ( Unemployed Man ) and his EMMM method of stock picking. ( EMMM = Enny Meany Miney Moe )