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Hungary's authoritarian leader breaks with the EU, saying he'll pay for Russian gas in rubles

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Hungary's authoritarian prime minister has broken ranks with the European Union, saying that he will pay for Russian gas in rubles amid Russian President Vladimir Putin's war with Ukraine.

"We don't have any difficulty paying in rubles. If the Russians ask us to, we pay in rubles," Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán told reporters on Wednesday, according to a tweet by Hungary's international spokesman Zoltan Kovacs.

Putin has threatened to stop sending gas to Europe if countries Russia designated as "unfriendly" don't pay in rubles.

The move is part of an effort to boost the value of the Russian currency by increasing demand for it. The ruble was initially hit hard due to crippling economic sanctions as a result of Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, but the Russian currency has made a stunning recovery.

"If unfriendly countries do not pay in rubles from April 1, we will consider this a default on gas contracts, in which case existing contracts will be stopped," Putin said after signing a decree on Thursday, according to Russian state news outlet RIA Novosti.

The list of "unfriendly countries," which received the designation from Russia in response to widespread condemnation of its six-week invasion of Ukraine, includes the US, UK, and EU countries.

Hungary is a member of the EU and NATO, though Orbán is an ally of Putin.

The Hungarian leader recently referred to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy as one of his "opponents" in his victory speech after he was re-elected to a fourth term. Orbán ran on a platform of "peace and security," telling Hungarians he could keep them safe from the consequences of the war in Ukraine.

Other European leaders have rejected Putin's demands to pay for Russian gas in rubles.

Germany — Europe's largest economy — has already activated an emergency plan to deal with disruptions to its natural-gas supply.

Orbán has taken a series of anti-democratic steps to cement his rule in Hungary since coming to power over a decade ago, including enriching his allies with public funds, eroding the free press, attacking the independence of the judiciary, and remaking the electoral system to favor his party.

Rights groups and democracy watchdogs have expressed serious concerns about these trends in Hungary, as well as Orbán's anti-immigrant and anti-LGBTQ policies.

The Hungarian leader's close ties with Russia, as well as the Chinese government, has been a constant source of tension with the EU. Orbán has been repeatedly condemned by the EU on issues like human rights.

The European Commission on Tuesday announced it would move to cut billions in EU funding to Hungary for violating its rule-of-law standards, after years of democratic backsliding under Orbán.

 
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Not sure why this would surprise anyone. He is part of the club of autocrats that the only twice impeached POTUS in history would like to join and if he is reelected will do his damndest to get in.
 
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Viktor Orban will do just about anything Putin says or wants.
Orban is putting political considerations over economic ones and he doesn't have his traditional ally to help him. Fear of Russia has sent Poland back into the security blanket of Nato. Hungary has the benefit of having some of the richest farmland in Europe, the people will not go hungry if the government is sanctioned. Unfortunately for Orban, the country is experiencing a brain drain, young people are immigrating to other EU countries for better prospects. He has depended on rural votes outside Budapest to keep him in power.

Orban should declare war on the EU, Putin will protect him.

 
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let me see; are the oil and gas still flowing into the EU from Russia or did they shut down the lines to protect the Ukrainian people? I'd say that the EU is making the same decisions Hungry is making- to minimize the damage to their economy.
 
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Here, a bit of perspective

 

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So the EU is looking to punish Hungary because of DEMOCRATIC election results that they don't like?
I hope Orban kicks ass.
The EU seems to have to outlived its usefulness.
All those countries should go back to being sovereign and those unelected authoritarian bureaucrats who run the EU should be out of a job.
 

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With what money?
With the currency preferred by the exporter which is its own currency, I believe.

Viktor Orban will do just about anything Putin says or wants.
There is nothing wrong if some day we demand foreign importers of our
energy exports to pay us in loonies. And if in the future Saudi Arabia demands
us in Ontario and Quebec to settle payment for their crude oil in Riyal instead
of greenback we will have to comply.
 
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With the currency preferred by the exporter which is its own currency, I believe.



There is nothing wrong if some day we demand foreign importers of our
energy exports to pay us in loonies. And if in the future Saudi Arabia demands
us in Ontario and Quebec to settle payment for their crude oil in Riyal instead
of greenback we will have to comply.
Exactly. The seller of the value in demand sets the rules. How fucking difficult it's to understand this? That's grade school economics.
 
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With the currency preferred by the exporter which is its own currency, I believe.
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I know it was somewhat obvious but my comment was about the the Hungarian economy not being anywhere near enough to keep Russia afloat.
 

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Exactly. The seller of the value in demand sets the rules. How fucking difficult it's to understand this? That's grade school economics.
It's also grade school economics to know that if a seller has to do this, they are pretty fucked.
 

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So the EU is looking to punish Hungary because of DEMOCRATIC election results that they don't like?
I hope Orban kicks ass.
The EU seems to have to outlived its usefulness.
All those countries should go back to being sovereign and those unelected authoritarian bureaucrats who run the EU should be out of a job.
Sovereign or communist?
 

jalimon

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Sovereign and democratic.
So you are completely contradicting yourself. Orban is Putin's friend. He will try to shut down the media for a single channel propaganda and end democracy. While enriching himself and a few friends with all the ressources. Just like Putin did.
 
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