I wouldn't assume that working for an EE agency automatically means sex slave.Rusty Sword said:
Human Trafficking
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It's tough to say, I don't know if I'd be able to spot a slave vs a willing SP.
Just to play devil's advocate. If you've had a EE SP and her language skills were limited. Even if she could express what's going on with her she's probably scared that the client could know the owners of the agency which of course would get her into worse trouble.
I'd like to think it doesn't happen but I think that would be naive.
Just to play devil's advocate. If you've had a EE SP and her language skills were limited. Even if she could express what's going on with her she's probably scared that the client could know the owners of the agency which of course would get her into worse trouble.
I'd like to think it doesn't happen but I think that would be naive.
Can anything be done ???
I fear this movie may have only raised the attention of some in the short term, but in the long term will do little to curb the sex slave trade. Who can possibly help these women ??
Not the understaffed police forces in this city...with more pressing issues at the moment(shootings etc...)
Not the clients who visit due to the privacy nature of the business.
Fellow Sp's, not likely due to potential repurcussions.
How can 800,000 people since 1990(CIA statistic from the movie) be swallowed up in Human Trafficing and held against their will and nothing be done about in 2005 ?? It really is mind boggling if you think about.
The only way is to curb demand and that is not likely to happen.
I fear this movie may have only raised the attention of some in the short term, but in the long term will do little to curb the sex slave trade. Who can possibly help these women ??
Not the understaffed police forces in this city...with more pressing issues at the moment(shootings etc...)
Not the clients who visit due to the privacy nature of the business.
Fellow Sp's, not likely due to potential repurcussions.
How can 800,000 people since 1990(CIA statistic from the movie) be swallowed up in Human Trafficing and held against their will and nothing be done about in 2005 ?? It really is mind boggling if you think about.
The only way is to curb demand and that is not likely to happen.
Women choose the life of prostitution , they are not forced into it . Its little children boys and girls who are being sold into child prostitution and child porn by their own parents and smugglers .Rusty Sword said:Who can possibly help these women ??
Its the pedophiles and child molesters that should be locked up , who can possibly help these children ?
Not all women choose it. Remember the story about the place busted in England this year. It was your basic, withold the passport routine. It happens more often than we think and part of the reason it continues is that most people including myself are not aware of the magnitude of the situation.
Vanessa, are you a mod?Vanessa@Select said:Asian_Sensation,
I see you are up to your old tricks with this handle and another very recently registered one.
I like her Ass tricksfrankcastle said:Don't think so but perhaps she recognizes AS's tricks?
How would she know the she recently created another handle besides Montecore?frankcastle said:Don't think so but perhaps she recognizes AS's tricks?
The enormous numbers are pulled out of the air, with nothing to back them up, and don`t stand up to real investigation and logic. See the articles I linked to in this postRusty Sword said:...How can 800,000 people since 1990(CIA statistic from the movie) be swallowed up in Human Trafficing and held against their will...
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1045295&postcount=3
for a more realistic picture, not something from a fictional movie made for the Lifetime channel.
I still say educating young women is part of the answer . Also as long as there are no good jobs for thousands of young girls they may be tempted to try these phony job offers. Law enforcement can only do so much but if people are afraid to come forward they are limited. It is a complicated problem and not easily solved especially with growing poverty. I wouldn't say most hobbyists don't give a damn but they may not believe that all the girls are necessarily forced into the business. I don't think most of us realize the grinding poverty these girls come from in the first place.Vanessa@Select said:Asian_Sensation,
Just because you and I, and the majority of ladies who are in the biz enter under different circumstances, please don’t discount the fact that many ladies are forced/coerced/trafficked into it. I don't know how you can possibly deny this. I guess the RCMP have wasted their time in setting up a special joint task-force to include all levels of LE when in reality, all they had to do is contact you for the straight goods. The majority of 'hobbyists' here don't give a damn;
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Toronto Hobbyist Benefit from Human Trafficking
Don't kid yourself- There are girls in this city that are working against their will or in conditions where they feel trapped. Not only that, they charge fees that are below the going rate and help keep other prices down. I admit that I am as guilty (weak) as the next guy,
Don't kid yourself- There are girls in this city that are working against their will or in conditions where they feel trapped. Not only that, they charge fees that are below the going rate and help keep other prices down. I admit that I am as guilty (weak) as the next guy,
Yeah okay and I'm your GrandMa in purple bra.Vanessa@Select said:Asian_Sensation,
I see you are up to your old tricks with this handle and another very recently registered one. (Causing quite a commotion, I might add). It's pretty easy to distort reality when you are hiding behind yet, another handle, isn't it?
There was a Mississauga strip club owner that was marched out of his big mansion in handcuffs(along with his wife) a few years ago, pics and article were in the Toronto Star.
He stood charged with duping girls into coming to Canada to work, once here they found out they would be working as strippers, withheld their passports until debt was paid. Think he was able to buy his way out of it. Girls were Hungarian if I remember correctly.
He stood charged with duping girls into coming to Canada to work, once here they found out they would be working as strippers, withheld their passports until debt was paid. Think he was able to buy his way out of it. Girls were Hungarian if I remember correctly.
Who is the one playing games? You conveniently avoided discussing the points made in those articles. I'm no expert on the subject, but some people like to actually listen to real information before naively believing something without question. Where do these enormous numbers come from if they're not simply made up? Did someone count them?Vanessa@Select said:This always amuses me. "MY info is more realistic, MY links are better...That other stuff, well, it's just hog-wash and quite frankly, I am right….they’re wrong”.
In The Spectator (UK) article, Felton is an international police officer who had actually been in Romania for three years investigating the situation. He not only has first hand knowledge, but his description of the situation seems entirely logical and reasonable when compared to the unquestioned hysteria.
This is not a pissing contest !!
No point in arguing over whose statistics are right or wrong, exagerated or not. Whose investigations are more valid or not. The Uk article is better/worse than the CIA statistics.
All that saw the movie or read the articles will have to admit that there is an issue with human trafficking in the sex industry, to what degree no one really knows exactly. It is likely occuring in this city, we are naive to think otherwise.
We need to focus on the solutions, if there are any viable ones. Curbing demand to these EE run MP parlours or in/outcall businesses would work but not likely viable. What percentage (oh great more ----ing statistics!!) of people who engage with SP's, MPA's know about this issue. I would think very few watched the movie or are members of terb to paricipate in this discussion. I never knew it was much of an issue until the movie brought it to light.
If we could bring a "conscious" to the vast participants in the industry and move their $$$ away from the EE( and it is not only EE but just as an example) run operations will we save one girl ??? Would she not be displaced elsewhere were demand is higher ??
It is good this thread is still running and causing people to think.
My part is to be careful where I put my recreational $$$.
I think I'm naive in thinking there is a viable solution, when in reality, there probably isn't.
No point in arguing over whose statistics are right or wrong, exagerated or not. Whose investigations are more valid or not. The Uk article is better/worse than the CIA statistics.
All that saw the movie or read the articles will have to admit that there is an issue with human trafficking in the sex industry, to what degree no one really knows exactly. It is likely occuring in this city, we are naive to think otherwise.
We need to focus on the solutions, if there are any viable ones. Curbing demand to these EE run MP parlours or in/outcall businesses would work but not likely viable. What percentage (oh great more ----ing statistics!!) of people who engage with SP's, MPA's know about this issue. I would think very few watched the movie or are members of terb to paricipate in this discussion. I never knew it was much of an issue until the movie brought it to light.
If we could bring a "conscious" to the vast participants in the industry and move their $$$ away from the EE( and it is not only EE but just as an example) run operations will we save one girl ??? Would she not be displaced elsewhere were demand is higher ??
It is good this thread is still running and causing people to think.
My part is to be careful where I put my recreational $$$.
I think I'm naive in thinking there is a viable solution, when in reality, there probably isn't.
I just finished watching this movie.......very good, very intresting, has to make you wonder sometime...........
I will however keep my comments to myself..
Just released on video.........
http://www.rogersvideo.ca/movie.asp?mid=32179
I will however keep my comments to myself..
Just released on video.........
http://www.rogersvideo.ca/movie.asp?mid=32179
