Human trafficking in Ottawa

[LikeRedHeads]

This pimp got 6 years. Good!

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/montreal/story/1.2536159


The girl was from Sudbury, the same town of this poor girl here in this thread

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?460536-VIOLENT-PIMP-please-advise&highlight=violent+pimp

Wonder if Sudbury is some sort of source for human trafficking for some pimps...

I hope none of us used the services of that 17 year-old girl.

They used the current law (living off the avails) to charge him. Don`t know what happens next year when the law is no longer valid, and if they still can bust pimps.

 

[xo_kathryn_xo]

Running a bawdy house as well was one he was charged with that the SCC struck down as well. However, I think that this case is perhaps a perfect example of why the laws struck down should be left out of the Criminal Code permanently as we obviously still have other provisions to nail these scum with, why keep those laws or introduce worse when they'll do more harm than good? Still, thanks for sharing LRH - one less out on the streets exploiting little girls, that is good for everyone.

 

[MegansTouch]

They used the current law (living off the avails) to charge him. Don't know what happens next year when the law is no longer valid, and if they still can bust pimps.

He was actually charged with living off the avails of a prostitute *under the age of 18*. That is still a crime. Living off the avails of a sex worker under 18, and seeing a sex worker under 18 as a client are still criminal code offences in Canada. The Bedford case pertains to adult sex work only.

The police will still be able to criminally charge "pimps" under more appropriate laws including human trafficking, forcible confinement, kidnapping, robbery, assault, or whatever law they are violating.

 

[wilbur]

The police will still be able to criminally charge "pimps" under more appropriate laws including human trafficking, forcible confinement, kidnapping, robbery, assault or whatever law they are violating.

Maybe by applying the laws above, they will treat crimes against prostitutes a little more seriously than under the repealed laws. I had the impression that before, well, it was only a prostitute so it's not as serious as affecting a non-stigmatized member of society. In other words, the repealed prostitution laws applied a lower double standard to sex workers.

 

[Vs_81]

the only sure way is to find alternative hobbies.

The other way to avoid dealing with exploited or underage girls is to do what I have been doing for many years (not trying to brag about me, just another way of filtering). I have a very simple rule, either I see girls from well reputed agencies like PK or EH or I see well reviewed independent ladies from cerb or terb. No chances of exploitation and no chances of under age, even then once I found someone looking underage, I asked for id and she showed me ID with name hidden by her fingers without any hesitation, to my surprise she was 22, just baby face I guess. She later told me that the agency (PK) actually checked her id to verify age before hiring her.

 

[Vs_81]

I know what you are saying VS_81 and I agree with you to a large extend but not fully. Even so it is not guaranteed though much better than randomly selecting from BP. Reputable agencies like me and you don't have a crystal ball in their possession. When a provider approaches them for employment (or to be presented) they do check ID for age but as for being forced or not they have no way of knowing who is behind the scene. There could be a pimp manipulating her or forcing her to join the agency but the agency only sees the girl and only to find out later about the pimp or the forced factor ..........

When a girl works through an agency, she gets paid directly to her, if a bf/pimp/manager takes away that money forcibly and sends her to work to agency then it's a crime of coercion that can be dealt by many provisions of the criminal code. Let me give you an example, how do you know that the women who works as a janitor in your office is working by her will or her bf/husband is forcing her to do that? It's a huge crime to force your partner to do something against their will no matter what is the nature of work. I agree that we don't have a crystal ball neither do the agency but same is the case for the agency who put the cleaning lady at your office. Basically what I am trying to say is that the society can provide you law and protection, it's upto you to stand for your rights, society cannot police your living room and bedroom. If a bf or friend is forcing an adult girl (not an under aged) to do something and instead of reporting it she is claiming that she is doing it with her own free will then no laws on the earth can help her no matter it's working as an escort, janitor or working at a gas station or in army. I hope I was able to explain my thoughts well.

 

[xo_kathryn_xo]

I agree with you, CH, that unfortunately even reputable agencies like GP can end up with the unfortunate situation of having an SP who is being pimped by her "man"ager/boyfriend/partner. I have no way to know when I hire someone if they are being manipulated and it isn't an interview question I can ask especially since one of the biggest problems with these SPs is that they are naîve enough to believe that they are being taken care of and loved. It makes me really sad for them.

 

[LikeRedHeads]

Pimps are very intrusive (part of the job description I guess) and will not send their girls to reputable agencies. Look at them (in documentaries or in real life): they are always around the street walkers and it is not to "protect" the girl but rather to protect "their" money. They are there to count every penny that the girl makes so that they will get all that money and not less. With reputable agencies, it is hard for them to be intrusive. I can't imagine a pimp going to the incall of the agency several times a day to collect the money, no way; the reputable agency will probably kick out the girl to preserve its reputation. But of course for shady agencies it is possible to have a pimped girl since the shady agency does not have any reputation to preserve and IMO, some of them are as bad as pimps.