How to make more money and retire early??

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
One of each type thing. He gets excited when he gets over 500% return on an investment. I cannot imagine what he will be like if he ever has a year where he does not get at least 100%.
The most epic fail in a post of fail.


I don't know what is more retarded. You for thinking anyone would believe this and the rest of the shit you go on about, or anyone who actually thinks you are not a fictional character. Best thing is you will prove me right by coming back and insisting that it is true. Which will again bring up the question, are as dumb as Fuji who thinks that repeatedly insisting that something unbelievable is true is someone convincing.

But hey I don't have time to waste with you, I am going to go for a 26 mile run, gotta be back in an hour as I got a powerlifting comp. Plan of Benching 1500 pounds. Not a big fan of powerlifting, but it impresses my wives Emma Stone and Anne Hathaway so why not. After the powerlifting meet we will fly from our 5 square mile estate in Pickle Lake to Paris for Supper and then on to Tokyo where they will watching my sex with a bunch of Japanese school girls.

Except, oh yeah, I am not fucked up in the head enough to A: think anyone would believe me or B: actually be pathetic enough to try.
 

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
So MBA provides the basic mathematical tools but more tools means more return on investment. :)
This is also a lie. Flat out lie. To quote one finance prof. I will not expect you to use Calculus because I know where as when you were in Kindergarten playing with GI Joe Dolls I was in Hong Kong learning Calculus.

Some other sayings, just because they are funny.

On transaction costs. I know for you rich students it is no big deal, but for poor collage professor making 6.85 and hour it is big deal.

On Profit. You make a lot of money, go Downstairs John, get drunk, get high.
 

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
another clever one liner to drive up your post count?
Whats the point in more when dealing with an obvious fictional character, unless it is to mock for the joy or others or as a warning.
 

Phil C. McNasty

Go Jays Go
Dec 27, 2010
28,752
6,526
113
10) Condos are just boxes of air not real-estate. Selling air can be profitable until the suckers catch on
You might wanna tell the condo owners in Yorkville that, who's condo value have almost doubled in less then 7 years.

A 1,200 sq ft condo wouldve cost you about $400,000 in 2006, and now they are going for $700,000+
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
So MBA provides the basic mathematical tools but more tools means more return on investment.
This is also a lie. Flat out lie. To quote one finance prof. I will not expect you to use Calculus because I know where as when you were in Kindergarten playing with GI Joe Dolls I was in Hong Kong learning Calculus.

Some other sayings, just because they are funny.

On transaction costs. I know for you rich students it is no big deal, but for poor collage professor making 6.85 and hour it is big deal.

On Profit. You make a lot of money, go Downstairs John, get drunk, get high.
I have no idea what you are going on about. Do you think they do not teach mathematical based tools in MBA programs? Do you think MinMax, MaxMin, Ne present value, Expected rate of returns etc etc are really the most advanced predictive mathematical tools in existence? Do yu think that more extensive study in probability theory and pattern recognition do not add skills in analysing the value of an investment?

Or do you believe that you can do a 5 factor winters smoothing based on an MBA program?

WTF are you talking about? Are you drunk ?
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
He gets excited when he gets over 500% return on an investment. I cannot imagine what he will be like if he ever has a year where he does not get at least 100%.
The most epic fail in a post of fail.

I don't know what is more retarded. You for thinking anyone would believe this and the rest of the shit you go on about, or anyone who actually thinks you are not a fictional character. Best thing is you will prove me right by coming back and insisting that it is true. Which will again bring up the question, are as dumb as Fuji who thinks that repeatedly insisting that something unbelievable is true is someone convincing.

But hey I don't have time to waste with you, I am going to go for a 26 mile run, gotta be back in an hour as I got a powerlifting comp. Plan of Benching 1500 pounds. Not a big fan of powerlifting, but it impresses my wives Emma Stone and Anne Hathaway so why not. After the powerlifting meet we will fly from our 5 square mile estate in Pickle Lake to Paris for Supper and then on to Tokyo where they will watching my sex with a bunch of Japanese school girls.

Except, oh yeah, I am not fucked up in the head enough to A: think anyone would believe me or B: actually be pathetic enough to try.
Oh my. What are you going on about now? Pretty much everyone who is making a killing with investments makes that kind of return on individual investments. If you bought Apple at the right time :) and now sold it at $700 you would have made something like 800% easily on the investment. :) In 1999 he sank all his free money in gold at around $250. THis year he sold it for about $1500. Only 600% but not bad. And since you do not live with him how could you know how he would react if not a single investment he cashed in during a year did not have a 100% return?

Pretty much anyone who spends over 30 or 40 hours a week analysing investments, and has basic skills and tools should be able to do it. Have you so little experience in investments to not understand that?

As for your being fucked up in the head, I am too much of a lady to comment. :)
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
You might wanna tell the condo owners in Yorkville that, who's condo value have almost doubled in less then 7 years.

A 1,200 sq ft condo wouldve cost you about $400,000 in 2006, and now they are going for $700,000+

I think that he has owned several investment condos and was involved it some consortium that built them. And he made money :). I think he is concerned that the bubble can burst very easily. Something about many condos being mortgaged to the hilt and when interest goes up people will not be able to keep them. And that the remaining owners will face both reduced equity and spiralling condo costs. But hey, who knows. Maybe there s still a lot of money to be made in them. :)
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
Whats the point in more when dealing with an obvious fictional character, unless it is to mock for the joy or others or as a warning.

I have no idea why you have decided I am not a person. And frankly I do not care. I am sorry you see yourself as a self professed failure / loser. I am sorry you did not work 80 hour weeks to make money. I am sorry you do not have the skills to invest money and make huge profits. I am sorry you feel driven to mock me.

Now get over it :)
 

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
I have no idea what you are going on about. Do you think they do not teach mathematical based tools in MBA programs? Do you think MinMax, MaxMin, Ne present value, Expected rate of returns etc etc are really the most advanced predictive mathematical tools in existence? Do yu think that more extensive study in probability theory and pattern recognition do not add skills in analysing the value of an investment?

Or do you believe that you can do a 5 factor winters smoothing based on an MBA program?

WTF are you talking about? Are you drunk ?
Derp derp derp. I know exactly what is taught at the MBA level in finance. The math is at a very simple level, something a high school student could pick up from a basic text. Considering how many people haven't touched any series math since their first few years of undergrad they have no choice. The Management Science people seem to get exposed to the heavier math, they did in the one second year "Q" course I did, I didn't see too many finance people. Msc in finance, I'd guess that would be different, but I wouldn't know. Unlike some people I will not use google in an attempt to pretend that I do.

As for drunk, I just called bullshit and put forward some quotes from a finance prof, one of which is illustrative of the attitude, the rest just funny. You got drunk from that?




Oh my. What are you going on about now? Pretty much everyone who is making a killing with investments makes that kind of return on individual investments. If you bought Apple at the right time :) and now sold it at $700 you would have made something like 800% easily on the investment. :) In 1999 he sank all his free money in gold at around $250. THis year he sold it for about $1500. Only 600% but not bad. And since you do not live with him how could you know how he would react if not a single investment he cashed in during a year did not have a 100% return?

Pretty much anyone who spends over 30 or 40 hours a week analysing investments, and has basic skills and tools should be able to do it. Have you so little experience in investments to not understand that?

As for your being fucked up in the head, I am too much of a lady to comment. :)
Cool story brah. Actually you are right, I bought Bre-X just before it started to catch fire and sold it a dollar from its top. I do that every year becasue I spent 200 hours a week analyzing investments. I also have a 12 inch penis. If I should believe you, you must believe me.

In the real world, there are many people who spent 80+ hours a week on analyzing investments and have access to the resources that would put the 5 richest kings of Europe to shame, and they still don't do much better than the market average in the longer term. Yeah, but your "hubby" would be disappointed with a 100% gain in a year.

Your claim. " I cannot imagine what he will be like if he ever has a year where he does not get at least 100%. "
Obviously for all your supposed intellect you don't understand compound math. Try doubling a dollar 30 times, never mind going up 5 fold.

Mathematics says 1: You are full of shit and 2: You are too stupid to know it or you couldn't be bothered to craft a more believable story.


Also none of your examples are 1 year returns and are exceptions that prove the rule. You were claiming this as standard for all investments every year.

I have no idea why you have decided I am not a person. And frankly I do not care. I am sorry you see yourself as a self professed failure / loser. I am sorry you did not work 80 hour weeks to make money. I am sorry you do not have the skills to invest money and make huge profits. I am sorry you feel driven to mock me.

Now get over it :)
Yes you do, if you didn't you would ignore me. You care deeply because you want to present this image by inventing a fake wife.

Also you do fully understand why I think you are a fictional character. Plenty of other people know you are a fictional character.
Your knowledge base does not match your claimed med school background. I figured that out on chat when you were blathering on about med school a while back and it just screamed at me that no med school student would have so little knowledge of the process. It screamed someone who was pretending. Your medical advice is also off base.

Your claims of intellect also scream false. Anyone with a clue would know the story you present is both unbelievable and unprovable, yet here you are trying to prove it over and over... even though it is impossible. If that isn't low IQ, I don't know what is.

You claim to be so smart, educated and well read yet you show up in a WWII thread showing a stunning amount of ignorance which only makes sense when combined with your appearance in a retro pop culture thread. Your posting is obviously a shallow attempt to brag about how young you are and thus how lucky Loki is.

Someone dragging such marks and the like would not have lost a scholarship and had to go whoring.

The idea that you found your husband at your first client is also highly unbelievably, technically possible but Pretty Woman unbelievable. Also I recall Loki on the chat rooms moping about how his new paramour was seeing clients. It stuck me as a bit pathetic back then.

An intelligent person who understands investing would not keep harping on suggesting that everyone buys 400 oz bars of gold and everyone else who doesn't is a sucker. The amount is too high for most real people to afford. Nobody can be that unconnected to reality, the only possible reason is to use it as a chance to push the narrative further down people's throats.

You or rather your creator is a horrible person and needs to work on his fiction writing abilities.

And for no reason, here is Apu.

 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
Sorry, just to shallow and to long to read. :)


Derp derp derp. I know exactly what is taught at the MBA level in finance. The math is at a very simple level, something a high school student could pick up from a basic text. Considering how many people haven't touched any series math since their first few years of undergrad they have no choice. The Management Science people seem to get exposed to the heavier math, they did in the one second year "Q" course I did, I didn't see too many finance people. Msc in finance, I'd guess that would be different, but I wouldn't know. Unlike some people I will not use google in an attempt to pretend that I do.

As for drunk, I just called bullshit and put forward some quotes from a finance prof, one of which is illustrative of the attitude, the rest just funny. You got drunk from that?






Cool story brah. Actually you are right, I bought Bre-X just before it started to catch fire and sold it a dollar from its top. I do that every year becasue I spent 200 hours a week analyzing investments. I also have a 12 inch penis. If I should believe you, you must believe me.

In the real world, there are many people who spent 80+ hours a week on analyzing investments and have access to the resources that would put the 5 richest kings of Europe to shame, and they still don't do much better than the market average in the longer term. Yeah, but your "hubby" would be disappointed with a 100% gain in a year.

Your claim. " I cannot imagine what he will be like if he ever has a year where he does not get at least 100%. "
Obviously for all your supposed intellect you don't understand compound math. Try doubling a dollar 30 times, never mind going up 5 fold.

Mathematics says 1: You are full of shit and 2: You are too stupid to know it or you couldn't be bothered to craft a more believable story.


Also none of your examples are 1 year returns and are exceptions that prove the rule. You were claiming this as standard for all investments every year.



Yes you do, if you didn't you would ignore me. You care deeply because you want to present this image by inventing a fake wife.

Also you do fully understand why I think you are a fictional character. Plenty of other people know you are a fictional character.
Your knowledge base does not match your claimed med school background. I figured that out on chat when you were blathering on about med school a while back and it just screamed at me that no med school student would have so little knowledge of the process. It screamed someone who was pretending. Your medical advice is also off base.

Your claims of intellect also scream false. Anyone with a clue would know the story you present is both unbelievable and unprovable, yet here you are trying to prove it over and over... even though it is impossible. If that isn't low IQ, I don't know what is.

You claim to be so smart, educated and well read yet you show up in a WWII thread showing a stunning amount of ignorance which only makes sense when combined with your appearance in a retro pop culture thread. Your posting is obviously a shallow attempt to brag about how young you are and thus how lucky Loki is.

Someone dragging such marks and the like would not have lost a scholarship and had to go whoring.

The idea that you found your husband at your first client is also highly unbelievably, technically possible but Pretty Woman unbelievable. Also I recall Loki on the chat rooms moping about how his new paramour was seeing clients. It stuck me as a bit pathetic back then.

An intelligent person who understands investing would not keep harping on suggesting that everyone buys 400 oz bars of gold and everyone else who doesn't is a sucker. The amount is too high for most real people to afford. Nobody can be that unconnected to reality, the only possible reason is to use it as a chance to push the narrative further down people's throats.

You or rather your creator is a horrible person and needs to work on his fiction writing abilities.

And for no reason, here is Apu.

 

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
Sorry, just to shallow and to long to read. :)
Another lie because my response is no longer than your posts.

That or you don't have a retort. Even if you couldn't be bothered to read, I am surprised you don't have some derpy goodness to the damning parts I bolded.

Also as to why your story is unbelievable. You are so happy and content with your life, yet you have nothing better to do then come on here and try to prove your story. Sure you have explanations but they are weak.
 

smiley1437

Member
Oct 30, 2005
829
0
16
Fatone, I know from your posts that you're not a retard but I suspect that your dislike of mrsCAloki is so strong that you are misreading her.

I don't think she was claiming that LL made a 100% return overall every year but that he would be disappointed if he didn't have at least one 2-bagger (100% return) investment per year. That's not unusual if one is diversified.

At least, that's how I read it - she can correct me if I'm wrong.

Also - is there some part of you that is bothered by her posts? Why not simply put her on ignore?

Or do you feel she should be censored to 'protect' the rest of us?

I can only speak for myself, but I'd think that most people can read and decide for themselves if what she's posting is interesting, uninteresting, true, or false.
 

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
Fatone, I know from your posts that you're not a retard but I suspect that your dislike of mrsCAloki is so strong that you are misreading her.
I do have a hostility towards bullshit artists, however my interpretation is more in line with the exact wording and general posting history.

However perhaps Loki will grab on to that life preserver you tossed out.

Sad thing is, I do have her on ignore. That read ignore button is so tempting. I am a bit feline that way. Pathetic but true. Same situation with other people I have on ignore.
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
Fatone, I know from your posts that you're not a retard but I suspect that your dislike of mrsCAloki is so strong that you are misreading her.

I don't think she was claiming that LL made a 100% return overall every year but that he would be disappointed if he didn't have at least one 2-bagger (100% return) investment per year. That's not unusual if one is diversified.

At least, that's how I read it - she can correct me if I'm wrong.
You are correct. Gross return of course. Tax etc chew a lot of it up.

Also - is there some part of you that is bothered by her posts? Why not simply put her on ignore?

Or do you feel she should be censored to 'protect' the rest of us?

I can only speak for myself, but I'd think that most people can read and decide for themselves if what she's posting is interesting, uninteresting, true, or false.
And I would hope so. He goes on about 400 Oz vs vanity coins and refuses to understand the basic point. gold coins and wafers are just a marketing gimmicks to sucker people who have no understanding of finance and that cater to poor people who do not understand investments.
 

smiley1437

Member
Oct 30, 2005
829
0
16
I do have a hostility towards bullshit artists, however my interpretation is more in line with the exact wording and general posting history.

However perhaps Loki will grab on to that life preserver you tossed out.

Sad thing is, I do have her on ignore. That read ignore button is so tempting. I am a bit feline that way. Pathetic but true. Same situation with other people I have on ignore.
Well, you're certainly entitled to your own interpretation, but for that specific sentence her exact wording was simply missing two words ("an investment") which would have made things clearer. And the translation between what we intend in our minds and what goes out on an internet post is easily tripped up.

I'm no white knight and she certainly doesn't need me to defend her (from what I've seen, I think she's got a thicker skin than I).

I was just curious about the parts of your post where you seemed like you wanted her to stop posting.

That seems less than enlightened.
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
I do have a hostility towards bullshit artists, however my interpretation is more in line with the exact wording and general posting history.

However perhaps Loki will grab on to that life preserver you tossed out.

Sad thing is, I do have her on ignore. That read ignore button is so tempting. I am a bit feline that way. Pathetic but true. Same situation with other people I have on ignore.


PLEASE develop enough self control to stop reading my posts if you feel compelled to attack me every time you do.

I have never met anyone so silly. Of course I meant if he did not have at least one investment coming in with 100% gross profit every year.

And yes I guess you do not use calculus that much. If an investment comes in with 100% gross profit :) the marginal tax rates kills you in Canada; so it does not double the money you get to keep. That is the main reason we went non-resident.

I suppose I could do a regression on LL's investment net worth and average investment time frame and work up some value for employment money earned into the equation and figure out what his average return on investment had to be on a yearly basis but I cannot imagine why anyone would care enough.

Most people now days calculate the return on an investment when they liquidate it. Odd but sort of the normal thing for most people.

If LL does not have at least one investment in the 100% range every year I really do not know how he will react. He has some shares that he refuses to sell just because if he does he will have to admit to a loss. Making money is his main hobby :)

I guess I should go back and read your diatribe.
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
So MBA provides the basic mathematical tools but more tools means more return on investment. :)
This is also a lie. Flat out lie. To quote one finance prof. I will not expect you to use Calculus because I know where as when you were in Kindergarten playing with GI Joe Dolls I was in Hong Kong learning Calculus. /QUOTE]
I am sorry, FatOne but that comment is just not a logical English sentence. WTF are you trying to say and who are you pretending to quote? The quote makes s much sence as most things you try and say.
Some other sayings, just because they are funny.
On transaction costs. I know for you rich students it is no big deal, but for poor collage professor making 6.85 and hour it is big deal.
On Profit. You make a lot of money, go Downstairs John, get drunk, get high.
Why would you add these silly statements further confuse statements? What college professor makes $6.85 an hour? WTF?

I have no idea what you are going on about. Do you think they do not teach mathematical based tools in MBA programs? Do you think MinMax, MaxMin, Ne present value, Expected rate of returns etc etc are really the most advanced predictive mathematical tools in existence? Do yu think that more extensive study in probability theory and pattern recognition do not add skills in analysing the value of an investment?
Or do you believe that you can do a 5 factor winters smoothing based on an MBA program?
WTF are you talking about? Are you drunk ?
Derp derp derp. I know exactly what is taught at the MBA level in finance. The math is at a very simple level, something a high school student could pick up from a basic text. Considering how many people haven't touched any series math since their first few years of undergrad they have no choice. The Management Science people seem to get exposed to the heavier math, they did in the one second year "Q" course I did, I didn't see too many finance people. Msc in finance, I'd guess that would be different, but I wouldn't know. Unlike some people I will not use google in an attempt to pretend that I do.
As for drunk, I just called bullshit and put forward some quotes from a finance prof, one of which is illustrative of the attitude, the rest just funny. You got drunk from that?
If you ever finished an MBA program at a good university I will have to re-evaluate my opinion of all MBA grads lol. If you talk to a MBA grad they will have at least a vague memory of studying decision theory, present value vs future value of money, etc etc. They might even remember a lot more.

None the less more tools = better decisions. So what is your point? How is my original statement a lie?

So MBA provides the basic mathematical tools but more tools means more return on investment. :)
Seems obvious and clear. I asked if YOU were drunk because your ‘quotes’ did not make sense to a sober person

So now I wasted ½ hour typing this in and responding to your blabbering empty words.

And that is why I tend to find it pointless :) and boring.

Please learn self-control and stop breaking your ignore and reading my words. :)
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
An intelligent person who understands investing would not keep harping on suggesting that everyone buys 400 oz bars of gold and everyone else who doesn't is a sucker. The amount is too high for most real people to afford. Nobody can be that unconnected to reality, the only possible reason is to use it as a chance to push the narrative further down people's throats.
I am sorry if I offended your ability to make money and your pet investments. I tried very hard to explain that gold coins and wafers were a foolish investment. That they were a sucker deal based on scaremongering and bad advice by gold hoarders. The only viable forms of investment in gold are the real bars (400 Oz) and certificates and stocks in gold companies. The rest is simply a marketing ploy. You insist on focusing on the 400 oz bars instead of the message.

Why? DO you have a pocket full of gold wafers and do not want to consider the issues? My hubby has money. So sad to bad get over it.

Grow up hun. Learn to separate your investments and investment strategies from your penis and your ego. Making money is about making money :)
 

fuji

Banned
Jan 31, 2005
79,957
8
0
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
is.gd
Sorry but it's patent nonsense that a 400 Oz gold bar is an "investment" while smaller quantities are not.

First off, gold is never an investment. It's speculative. Always. That's by definition. You might want to look up what "investment" means sometime, and how it differs from "speculation".

Second, the argument that 1oz or 10oz quantities are somehow just a "marketing ploy" is stupid. You pay about a 2% premium to buy smaller quantities, which you can get down to about a 1% premium if you bought at a level that the average middle class person could come up with if they decided to speculate in gold (say, $20k or so).

So what? Yes it's 1-2% cheaper to buy the 400oz quantity, but there is no reason to believe that spread of 1-2% is a "marketing ploy". Volume discounts are common everywhere. Moreover, when the price of gold changes, there is no reason to think that spread between the smaller and larger quantities will change so significantly that it makes a difference.

In other words, if gold increases in value by 20%, it'll go up by 20% in both large and small quantities, or down by the same. The fractional difference in the per-ounce price between a 10oz purchase and a 400oz purchase will be tiny compared to the overall movement in gold prices.

Advantage: FatOne
 

mrsCALoki

Banned
Jul 27, 2011
4,936
3
0
Sorry but it's patent nonsense that a 400 Oz gold bar is an "investment" while smaller quantities are not.

First off, gold is never an investment. It's speculative. Always. That's by definition. You might want to look up what "investment" means sometime, and how it differs from "speculation".

Second, the argument that 1oz or 10oz quantities are somehow just a "marketing ploy" is stupid. You pay about a 2% premium to buy smaller quantities, which you can get down to about a 1% premium if you bought at a level that the average middle class person could come up with if they decided to speculate in gold (say, $20k or so).

So what? Yes it's 1-2% cheaper to buy the 400oz quantity, but there is no reason to believe that spread of 1-2% is a "marketing ploy". Volume discounts are common everywhere. Moreover, when the price of gold changes, there is no reason to think that spread between the smaller and larger quantities will change so significantly that it makes a difference.

In other words, if gold increases in value by 20%, it'll go up by 20% in both large and small quantities, or down by the same. The fractional difference in the per-ounce price between a 10oz purchase and a 400oz purchase will be tiny compared to the overall movement in gold prices.

Advantage: FatOne
re investments vs speculations. For all practical purposes all investments are speculation unless you can eat them.

There is a premium going in, and a premium going out. And if you gold is not from a recognized source there may also be an assay charge for each piece gold.

In addition none of these apply with a certificate. Small time gold investors are best not taking possession of the gold.

I think gold bars (real ones at 40 ozs) are equally silly. But at least they do not have premiums ached.

Message: people who want little pieces of gold are doing it emotional reasons. Not as investments.
 
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts