How to keep everyone happy?

[Geee]

[QUOTE="Ceiling Cat, post: 7711888, member:

You are complaining about a situation that can not be resolved instantly.

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Not instantly no, but strides could be made if conservatives could stop licking their corporate masters asses long enough to see they are the problem.

You say I've been asleep because "I didn't see this recession coming." Except I litterally told you before you even responded what the cause of that recession is.

So let me put it in terms a 5 year old could grasp.

Cropos raise prices and shrink products.
Corpos refuse to pay their share of taxes.
Corpos refuse to increase wages.

Governments need taxes and they can't get them from corpos and they can't get them from the rich who own said corpos so they raise taxes on the workers to compensate.

Workers are getting squeezed on all sides and have less money to spend so they buy fewer things.

Less spending, weaker economy.

Corpos *shocked pikatchu face* lets increase prices more because we need more profits.

OF GODDAMN FUCKING COURSE ITS GOING TO LEAD TO ECONOMIC STRIFE.

And just as a sidenote, no there isn't a labor shortage, theres a shortage of new people willing to take jobs for slave wages because the younger generations are seeing how Gen-X and Older Millenials are breaking their backs for greedy disrespectful corps in exchange for a pittance and are noping the fuck out of that.

 

[Geee]

Can't blame them.

This is the population they're dealing with.

Stupid people = easy $$$

Don't forget your hat

 

[dirtyharry555]

I prefer straw hats. Oldschool.

 

[dirtyharry555]

*Yawn* the same tired arguments as usual from the conservatives...

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If you think the past 200 years was bad, you're in for a surprise because the next few hundred are going to look a lot more like the pre-industrial revolution in terms of have-nots vs have-yachts.

 

[Musclepower777]

Well that is not true. That is like saying every guy that sees us are 300lbs and that is just not true at all.

Jen she's just teasing lol. But ultimately from what I'm guessing, men want sex, women want intimacy adventure and conversation. Plus I'm a personal trainer so even if they were 300lbs, they won't be for long. Still, you think it's tough for guys to have the guts to go to an escort, for women it's even tougher. I think honestly that's why as a guy it might be better to present yourself as a city/event tour guide or a personal trainer instead. I dunno.

 

[black booty lover]

If you are too busy to handle the demand you can rase your rate easily. Don't be scared.

If you rase you rates to make it up for the inflation but you aren't busy enough, don't touch it.

Better be busy at 280 than starving at 500.

Hope that helps!

Man I wish you could speak to the women on Leolist....lol.

Many of them don't understand the market, and price themselves out the market. Yes it's an open market and SP's are free to charge what they can get, but if your not getting any takers or not enough takers, it should be a signal. Their own greed cost them sometimes. I contacted an SP off LL last week who didn't even post her rates, but advertised full service, and she's a freak and does everything...blah..blah...blah. I send her message saying "Hi, I'm very much interested in becoming a regular client where I would see you about twice a month, but I'm not even looking for full service. More massage service. Looking for a back rub, then a bit of ass worship and I would rather it be covered with lingerie or fetish type clothes".

Gets back to me and says "$300 per hour, but because of your fetish $500 an hour". Okay, so you have sex and give a blow job to a guy for 300, but to rub my back and kiss your booty while you wear underwear you want 500...

Economics 101. I think you should give a course to women on LL...lol.

 

[y2kmark]

Don't forget your hat
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Obviously ALUMINUM foil, so just a cheap knock-off...

 

[Josephine Grey]

Man I wish you could speak to the women on Leolist....lol.

Many of them don't understand the market, and price themselves out the market. Yes it's an open market and SP's are free to charge what they can get, but if your not getting any takers or not enough takers, it should be a signal. Their own greed cost them sometimes. I contacted an SP off LL last week who didn't even post her rates, but advertised full service, and she's a freak and does everything...blah..blah...blah. I send her message saying "Hi, I'm very much interested in becoming a regular client where I would see you about twice a month, but I'm not even looking for full service. More massage service. Looking for a back rub, then a bit of ass worship and I would rather it be covered with lingerie or fetish type clothes".

Gets back to me and says "$300 per hour, but because of your fetish $500 an hour". Okay, so you have sex and give a blow job to a guy for 300, but to rub my back and kiss your booty while you wear underwear you want 500...

Economics 101. I think you should give a course to women on LL...lol.

You have to differentiate "market" with your own discretionary budget. When a SW raise her rate, she doesn't price herself out of the market she price herself out of your budget.

None of you knows what the market is because none of you walked a single day in our shoes. You may think you have an overall idea by the discussions you see here and maybe your own economical environment but in no way is Terb the "market". So let's get out of the way "what you guys think we should charge" and let's face reality.

As a sex worker this is what I found out and hopefully it helps more ladies out there.

1. If the girls on LL charge what they charge is because they can get it. Even if guys think they aren't worth it. It's a personal opinion only.

2. Charging 350++ doesn't mean you will be less busy. Some might, some will be just as busy. You will feel when you reach your cap. When you raise your rates over 400, the clientele you attend to is less impacted by inflation, recession, ect. So don't be scared.

3. Guys will never want you to charge more. When you decide to charge more, you will change most of your clientele and you must be ready for that few months of adaptation that might be rollercoasterish. It doesn't mean you are failing, it means you are evolving.

4. Repeat clientele will tell you if you fail or not. If people are willing to pay, but nobody comes back, it won't be sustainable to keep these rates long terms.

5. Find YOUR happy price over their happy price. If you feel like your gfe session is worth 350$ or 600$ and that price is what makes you happy to wake up for every morning, do it. Happy girl are the most successful and your client will feel it.

5. After a certain braket you will find out that people value their experiences over their money and I wish those clients to every sex workers out there.

So @blackbootylover, maybe you shouldn't let me talks to these girls lol sorry.

 

[Y_Diner]

Making everyone happy is highly highly highly improbable.

 

[black booty lover]

You have to differentiate "market" with your own discretionary budget. When a SW raise her rate, she doesn't price herself out of the market she price herself out of your budget.

None of you knows what the market is because none of you walked a single day in our shoes. You may think you have an overall idea by the discussions you see here and maybe your own economical environment but in no way is Terb the "market". So let's get out of the way "what you guys think we should charge" and let's face reality.

Sorry, but this is just flat out incorrect. Just like houses, there is a market. SW's need to price themself within in the market to maximize profit.
If they price themself to high, not only are they possibly pricing themself out of my budget, but also out side the general market.

Of course they might get takers at their asking rate, but you said it yourself. If your rates at a certain price, you might get more per hour, but how many clients are you losing because your rates are to high?

There is a market value for everything in this world, and SW's are no different.

 

[Josephine Grey]

Sorry, but this is just flat out incorrect. Just like houses, there is a market. SW's need to price themself within in the market to maximize profit.
If they price themself to high, not only are they possibly pricing themself out of my budget, but also out side the general market.

Of course they might get takers at their asking rate, but you said it yourself. If your rates at a certain price, you might get more per hour, but how many clients are you losing because your rates are to high?

There is a market value for everything in this world, and SW's are no different.

Yes there is a market but none of the guys here gets to decide who is priced in or out only based on their personal opinion or budget. =) She will know soon enough.

I also said that as long as you are busy you can go up. You will remain busy. You don't jack your price if you aren't busy because beyond the price there is something you need to adjust and this is the "experience". If you need to work on yourself for any reason, fix that before you fix your price. Make yourself busy at 280 before gunning for 400. If they are unsure they better stay busy at lower price than crickets at 500.

Ps. Experience is not cbj vs bbbj. Experience is how do you make your client happy or even happier. What is unique about you that you could emphasis and makes things memorable ect.

 

[black booty lover]

Yes there is a market but none of the guys here gets to decide who is priced in or out only based on their personal opinion or budget. =) She will know soon enough.

We all know this, but yes us guys can decide if an SW has priced herself out of the market.
Example, (not to be rude) but if some BBW who isn't facially attractive sets her rates at $400 per hour, us guys can make the assumption she has priced herself out of the market based on the fact their are elite escorts charging less. Her market is not $400 per hour in contrast to the 10 out 10's charging that rate. Sorry, but it's not hard to tell if certain SW's have priced themselfs out of the market. It's just not. Again, no different then a house. You can't try and sell a town house for the same has a fully detached house. The markets speak for themselves.

 

[Josephine Grey]

We all know this, but yes us guys can decide if an SW has priced herself out of the market.
Example, (not to be rude) but if some BBW who isn't facially attractive sets her rates at $400 per hour, us guys can make the assumption she has priced herself out of the market based on the fact their are elite escorts charging less. Her market is not $400 per hour in contrast to the 10 out 10's charging that rate. Sorry, but it's not hard to tell if certain SW's have priced themselfs out of the market. It's just not. Again, no different then a house. You can't try and sell a town house for the same has a fully detached house. The markets speak for themselves.

You are projecting your own preferences on something that has nothing to do with you. You were already not her target customer, you would not visit her and you have no idea if she is busy or not. On what ground can you make these type of assumption? Do you think she will dwell on a clients she would never have anyways? This is all the base of my arguments. You cannot mix your opinion with what the market really is. The right thing to do is to find someone that fit your price and your preferences. That unatractive bbw for you will be fabulous for others trust me.

Stop projecting!

 

[Frankfooter]

We all know this, but yes us guys can decide if an SW has priced herself out of the market.

Only the SW's can say whether they priced themselves out of the market, depending on their success.
That's regardless of whether or not they priced themselves out of your budget.

 

[black booty lover]

Only the SW's can say whether they priced themselves out of the market, depending on their success.
That's regardless of whether or not they priced themselves out of your budget.

No, not at all...lol. As I said in my previous posts, it's not hard to tell if certain SW's has set her rates to high. If they have, they priced themselves out the market...lol.

 

[black booty lover]

You are projecting your own preferences on something that has nothing to do with you. You were already not her target customer, you would not visit her and you have no idea if she is busy or not. On what ground can you make these type of assumption? Do you think she will dwell on a clients she would never have anyways? This is all the base of my arguments. You cannot mix your opinion with what the market really is. The right thing to do is to find someone that fit your price and your preferences. That unatractive bbw for you will be fabulous for others trust me.

Stop projecting!

Sorry, but men ore the ones that dictate the market. Not "project". We are literally the ones that dictate the market by are willingness to spend on SW's. This not "projecting". This is creating the market. The market is what men are willing the pay. It's not hard to tell with many SW's what their rates should roughly be. I may have a preference for a Honda Civic, but I know what the market is for it. If a SW sets her rates higher and she's able to get those rates with the right volume to be more profitable, she's simply getting more then market value and good for her. The same way if you can sell a Honda Civic for 5g's more then what's it worth, you've sold it for more then market value.

 

[Josephine Grey]

Sorry, but men ore the ones that dictate the market. Not "project". We are literally the ones that dictate the market by are willingness to spend on SW's. This not "projecting". This is creating the market. The market is what men are willing the pay. It's not hard to tell with many SW's what their rates should roughly be. I may have a preference for a Honda Civic, but I know what the market is for it. If a SW sets her rates higher and she's able to get those rates with the right volume to be more profitable, she's simply getting more then market value and good for her. The same way if you can sell a Honda Civic for 5g's more then what's it worth, you've sold it for more then market value.

What I am trying to explain to you is that you are not the Universal Men's Representative. Unless you have been assigned to this position, you cannot speak for everyone. Therefore you only speak for yourself and your personal opinion matters very little on our business.

 

[Frankfooter]

No, not at all...lol. As I said in my previous posts, it's not hard to tell if certain SW's has set her rates to high. If they have, they priced themselves out the market...lol.

How are you going to be able to tell if she's seeing more or less people with more money than you?
How can you tell how much business an SW has gained or lost, or how that impacts on her time and life goals?

You think you can tell that for certain?

 

[black booty lover]

How are you going to be able to tell if she's seeing more or less people with more money than you?
How can you tell how much business an SW has gained or lost, or how that impacts on her time and life goals?

You think you can tell that for certain?

I’ll tell you what…if I show you two different pics of two different SP’s, I promise you’ll be able to tell me which SP can probably fetch more per hour, and I bet if you guess, you’ll get pretty accurate or close to what their rates are.

 

[black booty lover]

What I am trying to explain to you is that you are not the Universal Men's Representative. Unless you have been assigned to this position, you cannot speak for everyone. Therefore you only speak for yourself and your personal opinion matters very little on our business.

And what I’m trying to explain to you, is wether you agree with or not, SPs have a market value despite my personal opinion. You make some kind of weird argument that that it’s possible an SP can make more than market value. Yes…then can make more then market value, but stop trying make an argument that there’s no market value, cause what your doing.