How to get rid of a sub tenant.

GPIDEAL

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Stop fucking around with this assinine goddam thread and phone Landlords' Self Help, a free Ontario Government service which helps small landlords. And enjoy it while you can. When all of our Liberal-bashing right wing ranters have their way, it's probably going to be defunded as "gravy".

http://www.landlordselfhelp.com/about_lshc/brochure_engl.pdf

http://www.landlordselfhelp.com/frontpage.asp

The Conservatives may have to cut that due to the financial mismanagement of the Liberals.
 

HEYHEY

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Its not what you know, its what you can prove.

With that said you had no knowledge of someone "sub-renting" your property. * wink wink

If this was me i'd change the locks immediately and if he showed up i'd call the police.

Repeat as necessary
 

mandrill

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Its not what you know, its what you can prove.

With that said you had no knowledge of someone "sub-renting" your property. * wink wink

If this was me i'd change the locks immediately and if he showed up i'd call the police.

Repeat as necessary
Which will also get you put in jail. Because the cops will charge YOU w a breach of the Residential Tenancies Act when you buffoonishly phone them and they arrest YOU and sympathize with your victim.

How many lawyers have posted in this thread telling you people to get proper legal advice and that messing w residential tenancies is a minefield??!! Yet you clownishly still persist in giving your inept and pathetic attempts at advice.
 

simon482

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Tell him you're moving family in and he has to go or get a friend to move in and pretend to be crazy walking around naked all day.
 

GPIDEAL

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Which will also get you put in jail. Because the cops will charge YOU w a breach of the Residential Tenancies Act when you buffoonishly phone them and they arrest YOU and sympathize with your victim.

How many lawyers have posted in this thread telling you people to get proper legal advice and that messing w residential tenancies is a minefield??!! Yet you clownishly still persist in giving your inept and pathetic attempts at advice.

I concur. Listen to Oagre. And @ Simon, pretending that family will move in is another no no that you can get royally fucked on by the lawmakers. Besides, there are rules for proper notice before eviction, and it may be 60 days IIRC. Not worth it if the remaining sublease term is 90 days.
 

simon482

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I concur. Listen to Oagre. And @ Simon, pretending that family will move in is another no no that you can get royally fucked on by the lawmakers. Besides, there are rules for proper notice before eviction, and it may be 60 days IIRC. Not worth it if the remaining sublease term is 90 days.
fine move in yourself and pretend to be a fucking wack job. strut around in shit stained shorts jerking off all day. could always stop buy for a visit and drop a bag of coke somewhere discreet then give the cops an anonymous tip.
 

Ceiling Cat

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Being a land lord is no easy thing these days. Owning property is like having a force bank account that you have to put money and effort into without the ability to easily take money out. In the long run it is an investment that will pay off, but if you get a bad tenant it can be very frustrating. You really have to check out people that want to rent from you. You have to check them out carefully through credit checks and other methods. When they act out you have to act immediately and by the rules to protect your investment.
The payoff comes at the end, but mean while you have to put up with dirt bags that drain you.
 

Cobra Enorme

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Every night, ring the doorbell at 3am and pound on the door. Leave a sign saying "wheres my money" or "wheres my drugs". It took 1 time for this to work. He moved out the very next night at 6pm. (He was a sublease that turned out to be cookoo). The laws are designed to protect the tenant and screw the landlord over. I wasnt going to eat 6 months of this free loader.
 

justawildchild

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You cannot evict anyone during the winter months.......case closed.....you will have to wait it out. But start the process now.
 

massman

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But start the process now.
Agree. A formal notice that the eviction process is starting may just 1) stimulate him to pay or 2) start looking for a new place and 3) if 1 or 2 don't work, you are looking at it anyway. Oh ya, and talk to a lawyer. I'm not one, but apparently the landlord tenant act is a minefield for landlords, and really is written for the protection of tenants.
 

HEYHEY

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Which will also get you put in jail. Because the cops will charge YOU w a breach of the Residential Tenancies Act when you buffoonishly phone them and they arrest YOU and sympathize with your victim.

How many lawyers have posted in this thread telling you people to get proper legal advice and that messing w residential tenancies is a minefield??!! Yet you clownishly still persist in giving your inept and pathetic attempts at advice.
Here lemme highlight what i wrote, since apparently you cannot read"If this was me i'd change the locks immediately and if he showed up i'd call the police."

This is what i would do. Im my opinion when dealing with scum you have to come down to their level and beat them at their own game. Id deny any knowledge of anything, kick him out and sit back.

I doubt i'd get arrested...

After all if i rent my house to you and we have an agreement, and then out of the blue some stranger shows up in my house that YOU rented the place out to, im under no obligation to let that person stay at my place.
 

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HEYHEY, what you don't get is that the tenant is still in lawful possession of the unit. Not you. You aren't entitled too lock him out, and if you try--especially in winter when it is a life safey issue--you are really going to get arrested. Not only that, the tenant is going to sue you, and you're going to lose that suit, and he'll wind up owning the unit anyway.

Just because he failed to pay doesn't mean he's lost possession of the unit. You have to follow proper procedure to regain possession, posting proper notices, going to the tribunal, all that nonsense. And as someone mentioned, they aren't going to allow you to evict someone in January when it's -20 degrees outside unless that person has found somewhere else to go. It won't happen.

Just because you are the landlord doesn't mean it's your property to do with as you see fit--it's rented out to a tenant, and they have legal possession, not you.

And whether you know you have it or not, he DOES have a lease on that unit. There are default lease clauses that are implicitly written in by law that are always assumed to be there. He entered into an agreement with the original tenant, and now he has a lease. You actually have to terminate that lease properly to get him out of there, and no, it doesn't expire -- it will go month to month once any originally agreed term is up.

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As for your claim that you would pretend not to know he's living there when he really is, that's going to fall flat. His stuff is going to be in that unit, he's going to be able to prove that to any officer who shows up by having the door opened and walk around inspecting his belongings. If you put them all out on the curb, then you are tacitly admitting to knowing he was in there -- otherwise, why the hell were you moving his stuff? On top of the charges for the illegal eviction, you're going to get charges for lying to the police, obstructing justice, or whatever, or perhaps even a fraud charge.

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When you say "my house" note that it's different if it actually is YOUR house, as in, YOUR primary residence. If you were renting out a room to him, where you shared the bathroom and kitchen with him and other common areas, then it's not landlord/tenant and you do in fact have the right to kick him to the curb much more quickly. But I gather that this is a stand-alone rental unit, not "your house" and therefore it's under the full tenant protection regime.
 
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