Seems to me I remember Wynne greeting refugees at the airport with Trudeau.
Perhaps you have the photo with Doug and Justin as well?
How to deal with panhandlers
- Thread starter Phil C. McNasty
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Perhaps you have the photo with Doug and Justin as well?
One of the first Charter cases to test it was to challenge vagrancy laws and succeeded. It's a right now to be able to sleep on the street.
Also challenges were made to prevent mentally ill street people from being committed and also succeeded.
Finally our safety net is better than people think. Look at any city the same size in most other parts of the world and the problem is far worse.
I don't give. But I wish my tax dollars could do more.
In Toronto, there is an entire industry built up around supporting the homeless. A lot of people make their living off the industry. (And I'm not talking those mooching money either.)
I also recall that about 15 or so years ago, someone had the (good) idea of doing a count on the total number of homeless people in Toronto and the usual crowd went NUTS about how we were violating their rights and the usual such nonsense. (Of course, those who screamed the loudest were those who make their living off the industry.) I think if you knew how many actual homeless people there were and how much tax money was spent helping them and calculated that amount per person, you'd have a heart attack.
I figure that if you're of sound mind and able bodied, and you can read and write (the signs bear witness to that), then you can find a job. The unemployment rates in this country have never been so low.
The only time I get really sad is when I see a panhandler with a dog or cat. I truly feel sorry for the dog or cat. The weird thing is that even their dogs seem like they are down and out.
I also recall that about 15 or so years ago, someone had the (good) idea of doing a count on the total number of homeless people in Toronto and the usual crowd went NUTS about how we were violating their rights and the usual such nonsense. (Of course, those who screamed the loudest were those who make their living off the industry.) I think if you knew how many actual homeless people there were and how much tax money was spent helping them and calculated that amount per person, you'd have a heart attack.
I figure that if you're of sound mind and able bodied, and you can read and write (the signs bear witness to that), then you can find a job. The unemployment rates in this country have never been so low.
The only time I get really sad is when I see a panhandler with a dog or cat. I truly feel sorry for the dog or cat. The weird thing is that even their dogs seem like they are down and out.
They are not making money by "working", i.e., they do not produce any product. It is just moral racketeering: You give money to feel better, but you would have felt even better if they will not ask for money to begin with. It is like small business paying money to local "mafia" for protection.
They will not accept food or drink from strangers unless it is in a sealed container that requires a can opener to open.
Yet, they will buy drugs that could kill them from dealers. Go figure.
I've noticed this too. I wonder if it's because the dog is is malnourished, bored, or depressed because it realizes its owner is a loser. It makes me angry since it seems the panhandler is using the dog as a prop to garner sympathy.
Also, it is not uncommon now for panhandlers to work the subways. I can't believe people would debase themselves like this. All the passengers look away in embarrassment as the panhandler makes his/her way down the length of the train. Nobody can be bothered.
Your 'mafia' analogy is ludicrous nonsense. You don't even have to hear a panhandler's pitch, if you want to walk by. If you feel 'moral' pressure to hand something over that's your good side pressuring you. Nothing like thugs threatening to break your legs or set fire to your store.
The one thing you did get right is that they produce no product — other than a warm feeling in you from doing something generous. But that doesn't make their way of making money any easier.
If you want to keep your money, do so. It's yours. Gratuitous comments about the unworthiness of others only sound self-righteous.
LMAO!! A Toronto issue???? How do you figure??
Last I heard, immigration was a FEDERAL issue.
Ford didnt house illegal scum in Toronto. They are housed in hotels all over Canada leaching off the social systems OUR WORKING tax dollars set up for US.
Can you use some intelligence before replying to me next time?
Growing up in Hamilton, there was a homeless guy that always walked around gore park in a business suit, and brief case, he never changed, never bother anyone, would sit at the bus benches for hours.
One day I talked to him, he told me he had been a lawyer and tragically lost his wife and children. One day going to work he just decided to sit, and never went back home or work.
Sad story, never asked for money, but I learned we often don't know the story behind the person.
I always give if I have it, never know if one day it could be me.
One day I talked to him, he told me he had been a lawyer and tragically lost his wife and children. One day going to work he just decided to sit, and never went back home or work.
Sad story, never asked for money, but I learned we often don't know the story behind the person.
I always give if I have it, never know if one day it could be me.
The Despacito guy on the TTC subway is a heartthrob and a hit with the ladies.
Seen ladies wrestle with their purse(yes that's purse and not puss,at least not on the subway) in his presence.
Lady next to me dressed as a medical field worker, gave him $5.
Seen ladies wrestle with their purse(yes that's purse and not puss,at least not on the subway) in his presence.
Lady next to me dressed as a medical field worker, gave him $5.
Its hard to give anymore after i saw an active panhandler in the high limit room at the casino. Fuck them. There is a difference between genuinely homeless and genuinely hustling. If i can smell you from a meter away you get my money, otherwise you get NOTHING!
I was in Hawaii years ago which has a big homeless problem. I was asked by a homeless person for money to get something to eat.I said "I will buy you lunch from anywhere you want but I won't give you money". He turned around and walked away. Guess he wasn't that hungry just needed a fix.
This is why I never give to homeless people.
Something about this post that screams for some kind of response. "Homeless in Hawaii". gets about as much sympathy as "Homeless in the Hamptons". You're in paradise already. The train stopped here.That being said. I would rather be a bum in Canada than the U.S.(speaking from well researched experience)
