How do i get a famous person to sing my lyrics ?
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Title question: Give him a blowjob. I’ll sing any lyrics you want and I’m famous (in my own mind).
Cheap copyright: Snail mail a copy to yourself. Leave it unopened with the postmark. Only open it in front of “officers of he court (lawyers) when needed. I’m told that is valid, but I’m not a lawyer, just famous (in my own mind).
if i post it on terb and its dated and time stamped thats not copywriter and basically anyone can steal it ?
Again, not a lawyer, but posting online for all to read seems like a bad idea and opens the door for poaching. That’s for free.
Edit: And before you post anything online on any site, review in detail their rules an conditions (I know, who does that?). Some (many, all?) claim ownership of anything posted.
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That's why there's Google. Why waste making a thread about it.
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How do I copyright my lyrics in Canada?
In order to register your copyright you must file an application accompanied by the appropriate fee to the Canadian Intellectual Property Office (CIPO), a federal agency responsible for the administration and processing of intellectual property rights in Canada, including the registration of copyrights.Jan 10, 2023
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How much does it cost to copyright a song in Canada?
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How do I copyright my lyrics in Canada?
In order to register your copyright you must file an application accompanied by the appropriate fee to the Canadian Intellectual Property Office (CIPO), a federal agency responsible for the administration and processing of intellectual property rights in Canada, including the registration of copyrights.Jan 10, 2023
A guide to copyright
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
https://ised-isde.canada.ca › site › guide-copyright
Search for: How do I copyright my lyrics in Canada?
How much does it cost to copyright a song in Canada?
Pay fee of $50 (online) or $65 (paper application).
Copyrights in Canada - Public Legal Information Association of NL (PLIAN)
LTO_3
How do I copyright my lyrics in Canada?
In order to register your copyright you must file an application accompanied by the appropriate fee to the Canadian Intellectual Property Office (CIPO), a federal agency responsible for the administration and processing of intellectual property rights in Canada, including the registration of copyrights.Jan 10, 2023
A guide to copyright
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
https://ised-isde.canada.ca › site › guide-copyright
Search for: How do I copyright my lyrics in Canada?
How much does it cost to copyright a song in Canada?
Pay fee of $50 (online) or $65 (paper application).
Copyrights in Canada - Public Legal Information Association of NL (PLIAN)
How do I copyright my lyrics in Canada?
In order to register your copyright you must file an application accompanied by the appropriate fee to the Canadian Intellectual Property Office (CIPO), a federal agency responsible for the administration and processing of intellectual property rights in Canada, including the registration of copyrights.Jan 10, 2023
A guide to copyright
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
https://ised-isde.canada.ca › site › guide-copyright
Search for: How do I copyright my lyrics in Canada?
How much does it cost to copyright a song in Canada?
Pay fee of $50 (online) or $65 (paper application).
Copyrights in Canada - Public Legal Information Association of NL (PLIAN)
thanks babe ......heres the situation so i send my lyeics all back to me but how do i i make money from them.
thanks babe i also saw this in google but i heard there were other ways too. i guess the best way is to do it this way. So for every hour i work i will put 50 bucks aside to copywright my lyrics and then can i share and post my lyrics if its copywriter?
Copyright subsists immediately upon creation of an original work. Period.
However, to enforce your 'copy rights', you must be both able to prove the work is your original creation, and be willing and able to enforce your rights. (ie: The government will not help you enforce your copy rights, you must hire your own lawyer to enforce your rights.)
In practical terms, you may use the most basic, inexpensive method which is to write down your work on paper and then mail it to yourself and/or a third party and leave the envelope(s) unsealed.. Be aware that if you ever have to prove your original work was created prior to the date of infringement, that the lawyers on the other side may well challenge the authenticity and security of the document/envelope.
You can also do this by emailing the work to yourself and/or a third party. Use plain text in the email as well as an attached PDF, and maybe a video of yourself reading or performing the work... and even in front of the TV with that day's live news broadcast. All these times should line up to the second to enhance authenticity. You could even add in a close friend to verify as a personal witness. Again, this method is open to examination and attempts to discredit the authenticity by opposing counsel.
Third is to deposit your work with the Canadian Intellectual Property Office and formally register the copyrights to your work. This is easy and costs $65 if you register online.
Here is the link to that page. https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/ca...opyright/registration-copyright-filing-online.
You log in using a CRA "My Business" account. (Easy to create) and use a credit card to pay the fee.
Enforcement
Most importantly, like patents and other intellectual property protections, unless you are willing and able to hire lawyers to enforce and defend your rights, the protection is hollow.
And unlike most people thinking a patent / copyright is a license to print money, unless someone is willing to buy your song, book or patented item, the intellectual property protection is worthless and quite often a waste of time, effort and money.
Getting someone famous to sing your song.
Good luck! Not trying to discourage you but that is not going to be easy. It might even be impossible to get them to even see your words.
Most famous artists have a 'Chinese Wall' set up. They forward all unsolicited materials to their lawyer and/or set aside and quarantine unopened materials and/or return to sender. (Same with lots of companies who receive unsolicited business or product ideas.
The reason they do this is to reduce the possibility that their own original works may be challenged if the artist themselves, by themselves, comes up with some part of your song/lyrics/work and then someone comes out of the woodwork and says...'Hey! I wrote that and sent it to you... you stole my work and owe me money!'
My suggestion is to write and develop your lyrics a bit more, such that they may be attractive to your target audience (the 'famous person') then do the DIY postmarked mail/send email and attachment to yourself method.
Then find the name and contact info of the artist's agent, write them a nice, clear concise BRIEF email saying you have lyrics that you would be honoured if the artist would read them. Mention the main thrust/message of the song (It's a song about my experience in life about ABC and how it relates to famous person or why they would like your lyrics). That you wrote them / were inspired specifically for that artist (without coming off as creepy) .
This creates interest and curiousity as well as allowing the agent/artist an out or protection of saying that the artist is working on something similar. Don't menntion anything commercial or about copyright etc at this stage. Just leave it at you'd be honoured for them to read your work. It allows them to let down their guard.
This creates interest and curiousity as well as allowing the agent/artist an out or protection of saying that the artist is working on something similar.
And then see what comes of it.
IF you get any indication of a positive response, then you might want to invest the $63 and 30 minutes to register copyright with CIPO before sending the lyrics. And whatever you do, DON'T talk about commercializing the lyrics until the artist or agent brings it up. It's like fishing, you don't want to spook the fish before it takes the bait.
And be civilized and normal. Maybe find a normal friend to review/edit your emails to the agent before sending. The absolute best writers in the world use and need editors. (But don;t ask your editor to help with the lyrics at all...otherwise they may become the co-author. Unless you formalize an agreement that they are an editor, not the authour. Then you will need a lawyer for sure!)
Good luck.
However, to enforce your 'copy rights', you must be both able to prove the work is your original creation, and be willing and able to enforce your rights. (ie: The government will not help you enforce your copy rights, you must hire your own lawyer to enforce your rights.)
In practical terms, you may use the most basic, inexpensive method which is to write down your work on paper and then mail it to yourself and/or a third party and leave the envelope(s) unsealed.. Be aware that if you ever have to prove your original work was created prior to the date of infringement, that the lawyers on the other side may well challenge the authenticity and security of the document/envelope.
You can also do this by emailing the work to yourself and/or a third party. Use plain text in the email as well as an attached PDF, and maybe a video of yourself reading or performing the work... and even in front of the TV with that day's live news broadcast. All these times should line up to the second to enhance authenticity. You could even add in a close friend to verify as a personal witness. Again, this method is open to examination and attempts to discredit the authenticity by opposing counsel.
Third is to deposit your work with the Canadian Intellectual Property Office and formally register the copyrights to your work. This is easy and costs $65 if you register online.
Here is the link to that page. https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/ca...opyright/registration-copyright-filing-online.
You log in using a CRA "My Business" account. (Easy to create) and use a credit card to pay the fee.
Enforcement
Most importantly, like patents and other intellectual property protections, unless you are willing and able to hire lawyers to enforce and defend your rights, the protection is hollow.
And unlike most people thinking a patent / copyright is a license to print money, unless someone is willing to buy your song, book or patented item, the intellectual property protection is worthless and quite often a waste of time, effort and money.
Getting someone famous to sing your song.
Good luck! Not trying to discourage you but that is not going to be easy. It might even be impossible to get them to even see your words.
Most famous artists have a 'Chinese Wall' set up. They forward all unsolicited materials to their lawyer and/or set aside and quarantine unopened materials and/or return to sender. (Same with lots of companies who receive unsolicited business or product ideas.
The reason they do this is to reduce the possibility that their own original works may be challenged if the artist themselves, by themselves, comes up with some part of your song/lyrics/work and then someone comes out of the woodwork and says...'Hey! I wrote that and sent it to you... you stole my work and owe me money!'
My suggestion is to write and develop your lyrics a bit more, such that they may be attractive to your target audience (the 'famous person') then do the DIY postmarked mail/send email and attachment to yourself method.
Then find the name and contact info of the artist's agent, write them a nice, clear concise BRIEF email saying you have lyrics that you would be honoured if the artist would read them. Mention the main thrust/message of the song (It's a song about my experience in life about ABC and how it relates to famous person or why they would like your lyrics). That you wrote them / were inspired specifically for that artist (without coming off as creepy) .
This creates interest and curiousity as well as allowing the agent/artist an out or protection of saying that the artist is working on something similar. Don't menntion anything commercial or about copyright etc at this stage. Just leave it at you'd be honoured for them to read your work. It allows them to let down their guard.
This creates interest and curiousity as well as allowing the agent/artist an out or protection of saying that the artist is working on something similar.
And then see what comes of it.
IF you get any indication of a positive response, then you might want to invest the $63 and 30 minutes to register copyright with CIPO before sending the lyrics. And whatever you do, DON'T talk about commercializing the lyrics until the artist or agent brings it up. It's like fishing, you don't want to spook the fish before it takes the bait.
And be civilized and normal. Maybe find a normal friend to review/edit your emails to the agent before sending. The absolute best writers in the world use and need editors. (But don;t ask your editor to help with the lyrics at all...otherwise they may become the co-author. Unless you formalize an agreement that they are an editor, not the authour. Then you will need a lawyer for sure!)
Good luck.
one quick question ifi sang the lyrics on a youtube video thats date and timed would that hold any weight for copyright or just stick to what you posted?
Yes, that would be evidence of performance of the work.
However, keep in mind that there is a whole industry of intellectual property nuisance squatters out there. YOU might become the subject of someone else claiming you knocked off their original work, or a derivative thereof.
By (publicly) posting to YouTube you are (potentially) exposing yourself to these parasites. As well as someone else stealing your work (or a derivative thereof) and they it will be YOU that has to defend yourself with a lawyer. And once things get legally complicated or otherwise dramatic, the chances of your "famous person" having anything to do with you or your work goes to about less than zero!
If you are just looking for attention, then post whatever you want, wherever you want. Be aware that you WILL get mocked and criticized on YouTube as much as praised. And unless you are a fantastic musician, your "famous person" will probably not like your work/arrangement/perforrmance. Better to just give the lyrics so their own musically gifted magic brain can imagine what they could do with it. Without being prejudiced by hearing anyone perform it first. And I assume by your lack of knowledge of the music industry, you are not a musician so your performance will more than likely suck in terms of professionalism. Not being mean or anything, jsut giving you some insight.
If you are serious about your work possibly being considered by this "famous person" , then act modestly, briefly, concisely and professionally. Otherwise, unless you ar a fucking musical genius, you will no have a chance of going further.
Good luck!
Canadian copywriters practically free. But it does not protect you in the American market
As for getting somebody famous that's pretty easy. Depending on what tier of famous. And under what context. I sang O. Canada withRussell Crowe .. That was fun but that was not posted. If you want a non singer to sing it It's probably easier. I am fairly confident with effort If you made a list of 7 people I can get 1 of them to sing for you with time. If it's any good probably selling You alert with a cheap price And I guarantee of it being sung publicly. Sylvester Stallone wrote rocky not to write a good movie But to make the studios give him a roll as an actor. Apparently they were all willing to give him millions of dollars not to star But he forced them to hire him And he gave up the millions.
