How Deep Does the Rabbit Hole Go?

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What does it mean for you? What is your purpose? Why do you get up in the morning and keep doing what you do?

I have been searching this hole as deep as it goes to the point of almost insanity and loss of touch with reality. Once I felt comfortable that I cannot dig any further I came back to my comfortable level of consciousness however now everything just makes sense and I have a better insight.

In summary this is what I uncovered relative to my own experiences and insights:
- we are all spiritual beings having a human experience
- purpose of human life is just to love and be loved and promote and spread self actualization and consciousness. Not love to be loved. Or not treat others because you want to be treated good or not pray to go to heaven which are all the same and reduce your level of consciousness and make you less aware.
- we are all connected. There is one universal infinite intelligence that we all have access to, and can use it to understand life and make sense of everything and find sense of purpose and connection to everyone and everything.
- God is love

So then the question is once you get it and find your answers what then? What is next? How do you know this is right? How do you know it’s not just an illusion or delusion?

There are many others who think they same just by self actualizing regardless of their method of self actualizing once they discover the unbiased absolute truth it all points to same insights and they see the same connections. Doesn’t matter which religion or culture or scientific approach you grew up believing once you truly self actualize it all points to the same thing.

So how does it help you in this current life and your present day experiences?

I think it helps you make sense of it all. It helps you deal with severe pain, depression and gives your life a purpose and meaning. Yes it is possible to go all the way till the end of the hole and come back. End of the hole is you realize reality is imaginary and we are all god. This was presented in Actualized.org in the episode “What is reality? The first time I truly realized and felt what the actualized dude was saying I started to get dizzy disoriented and almost lost touch with reality and felt very lonely to see it from that perspective. Such as I am you, you are me, we are all part of this one universal intelligence meaning we are the intelligence and everything just IS. Just giving this idea a chance is a good mind exercise to deepen your level of consciousness and whatIseness? Not sure I 100% believe in this idea, however I still gave it a full try to see how it felt.

Actualized.org is a great source to understand what it all means and makes sense of it. I kind of agree with over 90% of things he says but you can still see his biases such as his opposition to Trump. I agree that Trump is the least conscious president however I believe that he is necessary to expose the present truth in people and systems and help us become more conscious.

I think giving these kind of ideas a chance help us in our presence and human experience and make it more worthwhile.


https://twitter.com/reniblossom/status/1185836848435912704?s=21
In order

to save myself

I had to destroy the me

I was told to be.
 
I think I heard that same shit from a Hare Krishna guy back in the 60s
 
Re-watched the movie "Enter the Void" over the weekend and now I'm really still hoping to try DMT before 2019 is over.

 
Wow...based on that trailer it looks like a good psychological thriller. Need to give this one a try on the weekend.

Good luck with the DMT trip and let us know how it went. Usually guys on here bring up psychedelics all the time however never follow up to tell us about their trip insights and how it felt and what they got out of it. I will save DMT for later stages in life when kids are finished school and I am either close to retirement or am completely retired. I don’t think I can absorb too much permanent change ATM.

Re-watched the movie "Enter the Void" over the weekend and now I'm really still hoping to try DMT before 2019 is over.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGiA5QJKfec

hey big guy.....when I read your post I couldn't help but remember this song

It’s beautiful brother <3. I think some of the best beauty comes from the pain and emotion of it like an awakening through the senses. Sometimes I think it’s better to feel the pain of it since it lasts for what seems like forever vs. when you actually attain true love it fades away like a flower plucked from its home.

This one rips me from the inside each time...

 
What does it mean for you? What is your purpose? Why do you get up in the morning and keep doing what you do?

I have been searching this hole as deep as it goes to the point of almost insanity and loss of touch with reality. Once I felt comfortable that I cannot dig any further I came back to my comfortable level of consciousness however now everything just makes sense and I have a better insight.

In summary this is what I uncovered relative to my own experiences and insights:
- we are all spiritual beings having a human experience
- purpose of human life is just to love and be loved and promote and spread self actualization and consciousness. Not love to be loved. Or not treat others because you want to be treated good or not pray to go to heaven which are all the same and reduce your level of consciousness and make you less aware.
- we are all connected. There is one universal infinite intelligence that we all have access to, and can use it to understand life and make sense of everything and find sense of purpose and connection to everyone and everything.
- God is love

So then the question is once you get it and find your answers what then? What is next? How do you know this is right? How do you know it’s not just an illusion or delusion?

There are many others who think they same just by self actualizing regardless of their method of self actualizing once they discover the unbiased absolute truth it all points to same insights and they see the same connections. Doesn’t matter which religion or culture or scientific approach you grew up believing once you truly self actualize it all points to the same thing.

So how does it help you in this current life and your present day experiences?

I think it helps you make sense of it all. It helps you deal with severe pain, depression and gives your life a purpose and meaning. Yes it is possible to go all the way till the end of the hole and come back. End of the hole is you realize reality is imaginary and we are all god. This was presented in Actualized.org in the episode “What is reality? The first time I truly realized and felt what the actualized dude was saying I started to get dizzy disoriented and almost lost touch with reality and felt very lonely to see it from that perspective. Such as I am you, you are me, we are all part of this one universal intelligence meaning we are the intelligence and everything just IS. Just giving this idea a chance is a good mind exercise to deepen your level of consciousness and whatIseness? Not sure I 100% believe in this idea, however I still gave it a full try to see how it felt.

Actualized.org is a great source to understand what it all means and makes sense of it. I kind of agree with over 90% of things he says but you can still see his biases such as his opposition to Trump. I agree that Trump is the least conscious president however I believe that he is necessary to expose the present truth in people and systems and help us become more conscious.

I think giving these kind of ideas a chance help us in our presence and human experience and make it more worthwhile.


https://twitter.com/reniblossom/status/1185836848435912704?s=21

This guy has some interesting things on his website, thanks for the share.
We should have a weekly philosophy thread on here it would surely be more productive than all the stupid banter that goes on here.

Here is an interesting book I picked up that I thought was valuable:
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https://www.amazon.ca/Idleness-Philosophical-Essay-Brian-OConnor-ebook/dp/B077ZFD1GJ/

The first book to challenge modern philosophy’s case against idleness, revealing why the idle state is one of true freedom

For millennia, idleness and laziness have been regarded as vices. We're all expected to work to survive and get ahead, and devoting energy to anything but labor and self-improvement can seem like a luxury or a moral failure. Far from questioning this conventional wisdom, modern philosophers have worked hard to develop new reasons to denigrate idleness. In Idleness, the first book to challenge modern philosophy's portrayal of inactivity, Brian O'Connor argues that the case against an indifference to work and effort is flawed--and that idle aimlessness may instead allow for the highest form of freedom.

Idleness explores how some of the most influential modern philosophers drew a direct connection between making the most of our humanity and avoiding laziness. Idleness was dismissed as contrary to the need people have to become autonomous and make whole, integrated beings of themselves (Kant); to be useful (Kant and Hegel); to accept communal norms (Hegel); to contribute to the social good by working (Marx); and to avoid boredom (Schopenhauer and de Beauvoir).

O'Connor throws doubt on all these arguments, presenting a sympathetic vision of the inactive and unserious that draws on more productive ideas about idleness, from ancient Greece through Robert Burton's Anatomy of Melancholy, Schiller and Marcuse's thoughts about the importance of play, and recent critiques of the cult of work. A thought-provoking reconsideration of productivity for the twenty-first century, Idleness shows that, from now on, no theory of what it means to have a free mind can exclude idleness from the conversation.