How about those Leafs?

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BigGuy26

Just thought I would start a new thread on the Leafs......anything but another War thread!

The Owen Nolan deal looks like a steal, as he truly is one of the top players in the league. He always finds an open spot, is strong on the puck and is on a point per game basis.

Injuries and dumb penalties continue to hamper the team, so they seem to be losing some momentum close to playoff time.

Anyone have any thoughts/ideas about the Leafs or NHL? (except Goober who will say they suck!)
 

chubbs

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Toronto VS Detroit final

I would love to see a Toronto VS Detroit final. Will it happen? I don't know.
 
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BigGuy26

Penalties

The main culprits are:

Darcy Tucker
Travis Green
Bryan McCabe

The above three spend quite a bit of time in the penalty box. Also, Nik Antropov is up there as well. One thing I notice is how often the Leafs complain, whine and yack back at the officials on the way to the box. Damien Cox of the Toronto Star said this:
How can Wade Belak, a mediocre player at best complain to the officials and think he is right over their judgement?

Anyone have comments on the likely Toronto vs Philadelphia matchup?
 

i_am_good

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oh no...please...

...not Ottawa.

If Toronto meets Ottawa, there's no way Ottawa is going to let the Leafs forget what happened two years ago! I'd rather face the Flyers. But then again...

Either way, I hope the Leafs have their best playoffs in a long time.
 

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Re: Toronto VS Detroit final

chubbs said:
I would love to see a Toronto VS Detroit final. Will it happen? I don't know.
So would I, but I suspect a GOOD team will come out of the East!

Go Wings!
 
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GlavaMan

FYI...

At a Sens practice this week, Chris Neil dropped his gloves & went after Magnus Arvedson after Magnus gave him 'too much stick' during the practice. Somewhere, Tie Domi is smiling saying 'I told you so'!
 

King Pig

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First I want to say that I am a Leaf fan but unlike most fans I am a realists. The Leafs will be lucky to pass the first round and if they do there is absolutely no chance of them advancing past the second round.

Another charaterictic of Leaf fans that amazes me is the fact that a player can be an average player on any other team but as soon as he puts on that Leaf jersey he some how becomes on of the top players in the league. Case in point - Nolan. He is a good player but in no way is he in the top ten players or even top 25.

Leafs are never going to win the cup because there is no desire on the part of ownership to do so. Remember, the Teachers' Pension is in the business of making money and not winning championships. The Leafs need to establish a core group of young players, including a goaltender, and let these players develop and mature together. The fact that we got recycled and old players at the trading deadline is meaningless if it does not go towards the future success of the tem.

Therefore, all I have to say is Go Canucks.
 
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King Pig said:
First I want to say that I am a Leaf fan but unlike most fans I am a realists. The Leafs will be lucky to pass the first round and if they do there is absolutely no chance of them advancing past the second round.

Another charaterictic of Leaf fans that amazes me is the fact that a player can be an average player on any other team but as soon as he puts on that Leaf jersey he some how becomes on of the top players in the league. Case in point - Nolan. He is a good player but in no way is he in the top ten players or even top 25.

Leafs are never going to win the cup because there is no desire on the part of ownership to do so. Remember, the Teachers' Pension is in the business of making money and not winning championships. The Leafs need to establish a core group of young players, including a goaltender, and let these players develop and mature together. The fact that we got recycled and old players at the trading deadline is meaningless if it does not go towards the future success of the tem.

Nolan is easily a top 25 player. He was part of a lousy San Jose team, and all the players stats were down. If he can maintain the point per game pace, the critics will be proven wrong.

I happen to agree with the comment on The Pension Fund looking to only make money, but if the Leafs make it deep into the playoffs they will generate so much more revenue. A Stanley Cup would bring in a lot of money, and the Pension fund isn't losing any money either. The Leafs have been in the playoffs since 1999, playing quite a few games. Maybe the board thought the team needed little to take the next step, which was obviously wrong.

KingPin, Kaberle, McCabe, Berg, Jackman are around 26y/o on average. If they continue to develop, it is a solid nucleus. Problems in the future will be forwards and goaltending due to age. I am also a realist and don't see this Leaf team as having that spark right now, but hopefully come playoff time they can put together a good run.
 

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Re: oh no...please...

i_am_good said:
...not Ottawa.

If Toronto meets Ottawa, there's no way Ottawa is going to let the Leafs forget what happened two years ago! I'd rather face the Flyers. But then again...
Leafs can beat the Senators. They're famous for choking in the playoffs. Now what does everyone think of Vancouver? Now can you imagine a Toronto / Vancouver final?
 

Goober Mcfly

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Re: Re: oh no...please...

pblues said:
(The Senators) are famous for choking in the playoffs.
FYI, the Leafs have also choked in the last 36 years of playoffs. The only one who didn't choke last year was Detroit. Hence the Stanley Cup.

What happened last year has no bearing on what will happen this year.

Ottawa/Vancouver final.

</prediction>
 
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Last 36 Years

Not true Goober...you have to actually make the playoffs before you can choke in it!
 

DenWa

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Hey everyone....

Goob...There is NO WAY the Canucks are going to go to the finals this year. Detroit has had the biggest winning streak in the history of the franchise. They have a healthy roster (finally), Cujo is playing up to the level he should (finally) not to mention Legasse is nothing to laugh at, and Stevie Y is back to lead the team (finally). Now, I know they had a rough middle season, but it takes a little time for a new head coach and a new goalie to hit their stride, not to mention we were plagued with all sorts of injuries this season. But everyone's healthy, our captain is back, Brett Hull is playing like he's 25, Zetterburg is playing like he's Brett Hull, and there is no team in the east, including Ottawa, that's going to be able to stop the Hockeytown Express. As usual, the west is sizing up to be one hell of a battle. I would love to see the Wings and the Leafs go at it for the Cup. Talk about classic Hockey. Unfortunately I don't think it's in the cards, as I can't see anyone in the east toppling Ottawa - unless of course they do what they've been known to do and choke.

So, here's to me and Goob's teams fighting for Lord Stanley's Cup...if the Wings and the Sens play in the Finals I just may have to head out to Toronto so I can watch Goober's dreams crumble in person. :)
 

Goober Mcfly

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Actually, DenWa, you won't have to travel all the way to Toronto. I live in London.

Hell, maybe I can take a trip to Detroit to watch your dynasty crumble... :p
 

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King Pig said:
First I want to say that I am a Leaf fan but unlike most fans I am a realists. The Leafs will be lucky to pass the first round and if they do there is absolutely no chance of them advancing past the second round.

Another charaterictic of Leaf fans that amazes me is the fact that a player can be an average player on any other team but as soon as he puts on that Leaf jersey he some how becomes on of the top players in the league. Case in point - Nolan. He is a good player but in no way is he in the top ten players or even top 25.
Second case in point - the acquisition of Gilmour. Much ado about nothing. A strictly average player now who in the minds of Leaf fans was going to put the Leafs over the hump and bring the Cup home. Yeah right...

The way they are playing Leafs will not pass the first round. Anyway I hope they play the Flyers so at least there might be some good fights between Domi and Donald Brashear.
 

DenWa

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touché Goob...but alas, you're living in a fantasy-world...If the Sens beat the Wings I'll start a Powerman fan club.

London, eh? Not far from home at all...used to go to London on a lot of school field trips back in the day...

RED WINGS IN 5 VS. Ottawa!
 
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GlavaMan

Don't forget about the Avs as they are playing well now. They have talent and Patty Roy who is on his game now. The west semi-finals look to be great match ups if Col,Van,Det. & Dallas are in it.
 
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BigGuy26

The West

The West has much stronger teams - Detroit, Dallas, Vancouver, Colorado will all be difficult to beat.

The East has New Jersey, Ottawa (zero playoff success) - and other than that, Philadelphia and Toronto who are just above average.
 
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