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Big Rig

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I would think all those houses get torn down as they are flooded with dirty water, or can they be saved?

I remember New Orleans temporary homes was a joke as house trailers sat empty and excellant solutions were never used as there was no way to make a profit from them as it was decided to let free enterprise handle the problem.


Let us see what Trump does. This might be tje legacy of his administration

So far he scores an F from me. Bringing in the armed forces days after the storm has hit when he knew it was coming. He gets 0 points for the Houston walk about he just did.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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I would think all those houses get torn down or can they be saved?
The houses which are made of wood would need to be air-dried for many months. You can't just rebuild a wooden house if it's soaked in water.

This is turning out to be one of the greatest disasters in US history
 

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I would think all those houses get torn down as they are flooded with dirty water, or can they be saved?

I remember New Orleans temporary homes was a joke as house trailers sat empty and some solutions were never used as there was no way to make a profit from as it was decided to let free enterprise handle the problem.
The houses which are made of wood would need to be air-dried for many months. You can't just rebuild a wooden house if it's soaked in water.

This is turning out to be one of the greatest disasters in US history
It would probably be more cost efficient to just clean and dry the dirty water from the homes, unless the interior is badly molded or foundation damage is too severe for a complete home overhaul.

Hurricane Harvey flooding affects at least $23 billion of properties in Galveston, Harris counties

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/30/hur...-properties-in-galveston-harris-counties.html
 

Big Rig

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^^^^ here's the good news, lots of jobs to be created for construction people
Economics does not work like that. What it means is $ spent on reconstruction is $ that would have been spent elsewhere. Yes, construction benefits but other parts of economy suffer.

I think Canada will benefit in three ways:

1 price of fuel goes up (we produce fuel so more jobs and taxes for us as we help pick up the supply)

2 We supply lumber and other construction materials

3 Lots of skills needed so skilled trades men from Canada will get easy visas to go and help and bring US $ back to Canada

Flood is good for Canada or am I wrong ?
Any TERBs out there who are economists?
 

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President trump donates $1 million of his personal funds to victims of Hurricane Harvey.
Trump's an asshole and a moron, but I'll give credit where it's due. If he goes through with it, and if it's actually his own money.
 
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There was no 2 weeks of warning but about 2 days they had no idea where it would hit or how bad much earlier so couldn't release the dam dam sooner to drain it. And it had never been released before and would have flooded downstream just earlier.

FEMA leaned from Katrina and Sandy and did great job of prepositinng assetes around the U.S. About 500 marines were deployed with the Navy ships with food plus hundreds of Helos. Coast Guard really did a good job before military assets, 12,000 national guard could arrive. Remember allmost all roads into the area were flooded so impossible to get into the area other than helos early on.

Our (Phoenix AZ) response team of highly trained rescue folks that hang out of helos to do mountain rescues and pluck people from cars with our Monsoon flooding were mobilized. 80 highly trained fire etc folks along with bumch of helos and some of our National Guard were sent from 1500 miles away!. But again no way in by land in the early days. Texas mobilized its entire 12,000 national guard and many other states also. It was a HUGE coordination problem., especially in airspace with all the helos all over until the miiltary radar planes arrived to help helo traffic control so they wouldn't run into each other plucking folks from rooftops.

Trump wants to take credit but he did nothing except brag about his crowd size.

Now we have unknown chemicals blowing up since TX Republicans passed law no longer requiring the nature of chemicals stored to be made public to prostect the industry. Also in their wisdom Houston has no zoning laws.

Houses can not be just dried out. Mold is already forming. It will take years to rebuild especially since in the U.S. most construction companies are backlogged already due to lack of skilled Mexican labor. Maybe will need zillions from Canada since easier to get into the U.S. than the Mexican workers we relied upon for years.

Overall expected to knock of 0.2% to GDP short term but all the construction paid for my insurance companies and government should more than offset other losses. Victims can get diaster relief loans up to $200,000 for homes and up to $40,000 for personal property including automobiles. It will probably be very good for the auto industry helping to reduce the glut we have had in used cars - coming off rentals etc. Rental cars will be in huge demand. Folks do have to repy the disaster loans and qualify which may be an issue.. Plus there was a housing shortage in Houston even before the flood so may have to reply on FEMA trailers again? Most hotels have arrangements with FEMA to provide short-term emergency housing but rebuilding will take years and what to do with all the displaced folks is a huge issue like in Katrina. Fortuinately Feds and local is much more ready than in New Orleans.

Sadly Trump seems more concerned about building his worthless vanity wall than fully funding the aid to the flood victims. The fight goes on with a worthless Congress.
 

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There's got to be a religious nut there building an ark.
A true religious nut would know God said next time he will destroy the earth by fire.
 

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So how bad is it really there ?

It appears only the low lying drainways are overflooded - so anything by the drains are affected. But there is a lot more to houston than the drainways.
Yes, there are plenty of pictures of the same places over and over, but like the lakeridge church thread - its high and dry as are the hotels around it and a tonne of shit if you look on the overlay maps.

So how bad is it really?
 

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So how bad is it really there ?

It appears only the low lying drainways are overflooded - so anything by the drains are affected. But there is a lot more to houston than the drainways.
Yes, there are plenty of pictures of the same places over and over, but like the lakeridge church thread - its high and dry as are the hotels around it and a tonne of shit if you look on the overlay maps.

So how bad is it really?
How bad? No one else should die now but they might still find some more dead from when the storm hit.

But in terms of property damage, it's fucko. Lots of people here no home now.
 

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^^^^^ another idiot trying to take advantage during a disaster to further his own agenda. You could at least wait until all the dead are counted you miserable excuse for a human.
How is posting nonsense on an obscur hooker board "furthering an agenda"?
 

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Here is an interesting read about total lack of planning in Houston.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...-a-hard-lesson-for-houston?stream=top-stories

Harvey Wasn’t Just Bad Weather. It Was Bad City Planning

Houston exulted in sprawling, hands-off growth. That’s no way to prepare for natural catastrophes.

Harvey is a devastating reminder to Houston that nature will have its due. The Category 4 hurricane that hung around as a stationary tropical storm punished greater Houston with rainfall measured in feet, not inches. No city could have withstood Harvey without serious harm, but Houston made itself more vulnerable than necessary. Paving over the saw-grass prairie reduced the ground’s capacity to absorb rainfall. Flood-control reservoirs were too small. Building codes were inadequate. Roads became rivers, so while hospitals were open, it was almost impossible to reach them by car.
 

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How bad? No one else should die now but they might still find some more dead from when the storm hit.
They should have listened to you and wore a helmet and bulletproof vest.

P.S. Curfew imposed to cut down on crime. Business owners complaining it also cuts down on business.
 

Mazzi

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How bad? No one else should die now but they might still find some more dead from when the storm hit.

But in terms of property damage, it's fucko. Lots of people here no home now.
ok so public numbers are around 50 dead - more get shot in the USA in a couple evenings.
Houses are gone yes, and thats not a good thing for those folks - BUT how many - hard to find a real number

All signs point to 1) media making this far bigger than it is, say compared to South Asia. or your average USA murder. and 2) lets jack the fuck out of oil and gas prices becuase we can - I don't really see how oil and gas is that drastically affected by relatively secluded flooding.

Lets everyone get this straight and stop being suckerd by the media. Houston is not underwater and is HIGHLY functioning despite the obvious distraction of flooded areas.

https://www.thepinkarmadillo.com/2017/08/30/houston-map-flooded-roads/
 
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