It was a good first episode! Actors are all good except the Princess is missing something. I cannot point what.
House of the Dragon (TV series)
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Only if you have a problem with a physically challenged underdog coming out on top...
This is a prequel and he's already written the book, at least in outline form. No surprise endings, I think...
Apart from Cersei not getting a proper sendoff and the cinematography being way to opaque (had to adjust the brightness to watch it), I thought S8 was a great big slab of ripe gorgonzola. I sort of enjoyed it.
Paddy Considine is the lead actor in this series, I'm assuming he's in the Sean Bean role here. GOTs had some great actors and some very shallow ones, Emilia Clarke used to bring the story to a grinding halt - probably why they paired her with the excellent Peter Dinklage.
Funny thing about Peter Dinklage, he did the English accent so well you'd never figure he's from NJ. Not just that, he's was in the same acting troupe as James Gandolfini.
Dinklage has some interesting projects on the way. A remake of Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch with Jamie Foxx and Michael Fassbender. She Came to Me where he gets to play with Anne Hathaway and Marisa Tomai. And the latest Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, with Rachel Zegler (Oscar winner for West Side Story) and Hunter Schafer of Euphoria.
Some pucuronis are suggesting that Jennifer Lawrence is putting down the latest Hunger Games - bullshit. It would be "brutta figura" if she did, it would make her more enemies than friends. In Hollywood you don't throw fellow actors under a bus to prop up your own vanity.
I haven't seen The Hunger Games, this new one will focus on Donald Sutherland's character Coriolanus Snow as a young man and his sister Tigris Snow played by Schafer.
I haven't seen The Hunger Games, this new one will focus on Donald Sutherland's character Coriolanus Snow as a young man and his sister Tigris Snow played by Schafer.
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You must not have watched Lost then. Lol.Lol a crap ending doesn't ruin it for me. I always give a second chance.
Spoiler alert, the whole secret of the island came down to a giant drain plug in the middle of the island.
Agreed. I thought it was a great first episode.
The princess seems like she will be the Geoffrey of this show. Just get this Vapid feel about her. I think she will be the Kardashian of the series. Ha ha
The brother of the King though. Bad Ass. Sherlock Holmes out there slaughtering the general public.
Yeah as much as they want you to not like Deamon, I think he will end up being one of my favorite. He gives me a "rejected brother" vibe like Tyrion Lannister.
Awesome first episode so far. Daemon is gonna be a problem.
as for GOT season 8 was too rushed imo. They tried to tie up all the loose ends too quickly. Cercei’s death was so lame for a big bad guy. The Night King was a disappointing and Danny going mad in a span of a few episodes wasnt the way I was expecting her to go. Don’t get me started on Bran becoming the King
as for GOT season 8 was too rushed imo. They tried to tie up all the loose ends too quickly. Cercei’s death was so lame for a big bad guy. The Night King was a disappointing and Danny going mad in a span of a few episodes wasnt the way I was expecting her to go. Don’t get me started on Bran becoming the King
I thought the premiere was good, but I worry it doesn't have the hooks Game of Thrones did. The pilot episode of GoT gave us several memorable characters to immediately latch onto: Tyrion, Arya, Jon and Ned. I don't think there's a single character from House of the Dragon that reaches that level, and in order for a majority of people to become sufficiently invested you need to have that connection to the characters.
I actually strongly disagree with that. That has been the conventional wisdom for a long time, but I have no idea why as such adaptations usually fail. Adaptations that stick closest to the material tend to be the most successful IMO, particularly in a fantasy setting. Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, the first four seasons of Game of Thrones, all wildly successful. Minor deviations outside of characters and main plot in order to accommodate a TV or film medium are fine. But when you start messing with characters and the main storyline, not only does that turn off book fans, but the script writers have a hard time matching book writers in terms of quality in these areas.
As for Wheel of Time, I personally think they butchered it. Felt completely uncompelling. It's the first time ever I haven't watched an adaptation of a franchise I loved through to its completion. I'm literally 10 minutes into the season finale and can't work up enough interest to continue. That's bad. Finales are supposed to be a crescendo! But the bad taste was left way before that. Several of the characters don't exhibit the same traits from the books, and they radically altered the story. If you're going to do that, the result sure as hell better be an improvement, but it wasn't. The biggest deviation feels entirely too much like it was made solely to suit their focus on the Aes Sedai rather than on the Dragon.
I actually don't know anyone who loved the Wheel of Time TV series. The best I've heard is a hesitant "it was...good", and I've heard a lot worse than that.
Well some people must have over looked the ending of Game of Thrones.
According to Streaming numbers, the premiere of House of The Dragon beat the crap out of Stranger Things. And Stranger Things set record numbers this summer.
I hope all the fans out there enjoy the show, and are not disappointed.
Seems off to a good start. Numbers wise.
According to Streaming numbers, the premiere of House of The Dragon beat the crap out of Stranger Things. And Stranger Things set record numbers this summer.
I hope all the fans out there enjoy the show, and are not disappointed.
Seems off to a good start. Numbers wise.
I totally agree with this. I’m watching it again and I don’t find myself attached to any of the “new” characters like I did with the original
Agree, so far not a very original or interesting plot-line. The characters and acting very 2-dimensional.
Maybe it will get better,
I don’t know how I feel about the characters yet. The acting is great. There is no question there but it is the characters themselves. The brother is bad-ass but is he the good kind of bad-ass or the bad?
I do agree something seems lacking with the Princess but that could just be her story building.
I’m excited about the direction though. They were able to lead you into a story right away while explain the timeline well.
I do agree something seems lacking with the Princess but that could just be her story building.
I’m excited about the direction though. They were able to lead you into a story right away while explain the timeline well.
I checked the credits, the Taylor's are not involved with this series.
Vanessa Taylor was the initial showrunner and chief writer for the first three seasons of GOTs. She had no input from S4 onward. Mind you she got a really good deal, she won an Oscar for The Shape of Water. Due to ESL, Guillermo del Toro's films always had something lacking. She fleshed out his ideas in proper English, it became the best film of 2017.
Her brother Alan Taylor was a director on the show, the last episode he directed was the Ice Lake Battle.
Vanessa Taylor was the initial showrunner and chief writer for the first three seasons of GOTs. She had no input from S4 onward. Mind you she got a really good deal, she won an Oscar for The Shape of Water. Due to ESL, Guillermo del Toro's films always had something lacking. She fleshed out his ideas in proper English, it became the best film of 2017.
Her brother Alan Taylor was a director on the show, the last episode he directed was the Ice Lake Battle.
Just read that people on the net have said their should have been a trigger warning for the birth scene.
It's not "don't follow it closely" that's the problem, it's "slavishly try to recreate it".
You just cannot do the exact same things in each medium, and not playing to the strength of the medium you're in now will lead to disaster.
There is also just the bit where sometimes with the hindsight of time, it is obvious some different choices would work better.
But when you adapt the surface details of the piece and not the central core of the piece, you fuck up.
That doesn't mean you can't fuck up by just wandering off willy nilly.
Obviously if you make something that the fans of the original piece can't even recognize as the original, you've fucked up as well.
I don't think our positions are too far apart.
Fair enough.
I couldn't stand the books, so had no interest in watching it.
Just reporting what some people I know said.
Never a good sign, that last sentence.
Fair.
I heard it was decent. Can't say I heard anyone rave about it.
