Hope Solo: Nothing stops her, even domestic abuse charges

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"Domestic violence (closely related to domestic abuse, spousal abuse, battering, family violence and intimate partner violence) is a pattern of behavior which involves violence or other abuse by one person against another in a domestic context, such as in marriage or cohabitation. Intimate partner violence is domestic violence against a spouse or other intimate partner. Domestic violence can take place in heterosexual or same-sex relationships. Domestic violence can take a number of forms including physical"


Interesting..the above is consistent with my definition of DV. I sorta doubt Hopes relationship with her sister and 17 year old nephew, who apparently hit her first, falls into any of the above circumstances. Why a DV charge arises out of a drunken scrap at a family get together is beyond me. Must be yet another quirky variation of a messed up legal system in the States.

I've been to a few ethnic weddings and picnics in my time where family have assembled, drank too much, then fists went flying, yet all was well again the next day.. Not so sure this is about gender inequalities rather more so about cops discovering an opportunity to stick it to a celebrity. Either way, it's not domestic violence, in the true sense of the definition...yet perhaps it remains so in a contorted legal sense. It was a family scrap. Nothing more.....but makes for a good story for media vultures...and in turn for the politically correct crowd
 

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saying it is less serious is making excuses. y'all the same ones where laughing a Jay-Z when he was assaulted by Solange and asking what he did to make her assault him
Wrong. Saying it is less serious is pointing out that a difference in degree can indeed be a difference in kind. Had she knocked him the fuck out and dragged him unconscious out of the elevator by his hair, it'd be far less giggle worthy. Likewise, if instead of cold cocking his fiance in the fucking face with the full force of 200+ pounds of muscle and rage, Ray Rice had ineffectively flailed at her once or twice before a large fellow stepped between them stopping any further contact, it might draw a smile instead of shocked horror. Tell me you aren't really this dumb.
 

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Wrong. Saying it is less serious is pointing out that a difference in degree can indeed be a difference in kind. Had she knocked him the fuck out and dragged him unconscious out of the elevator by his hair, it'd be far less giggle worthy. Likewise, if instead of cold cocking his fiance in the fucking face with the full force of 200+ pounds of muscle and rage, Ray Rice had ineffectively flailed at her once or twice before a large fellow stepped between them stopping any further contact, it might draw a smile instead of shocked horror. Tell me you aren't really this dumb.

i am dumb because i don't give women pussy passes for committing assaults claiming they don't commit injuries and is giggle worthy and believe men should not be used as women's punching bags?


 

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She didn't get a pass, she has been charged. However it was a less serious assault. She got charged with a misdemeanor. The other two cases are felonies: severely being a child with a weapon in one case, and an assault so incredibly violent the victim was knocked unconscious in the other case
 

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i am dumb because i don't give women pussy passes for committing assaults claiming they don't commit injuries and is giggle worthy and believe men should not be used as women's punching bags?
Sorta, but not exactly. Well, that, and for using phrases like "pussy pass".
 

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Interesting....
Canada-man....fabulous summary of the facts.
Isn't Domestic Violence a gender neutral term ?

Ray Rice thread.....the women chime in....what a bad man...( I agree, don't jump on me )
Hope Solo thread...the men chime in...come on...leave her alone...she is so HOT

We have such a far way to go....hopefully the NFL will provide some leadership....
Wait....we can wait until the Superbowl is over first can't we? or is that $uperbowl ?

Perhaps shame on Nike, are they the one with the double standard?
Wait, did I say that I think she is HOT.

Bottom line....if she hypothetically had a brother in the NFL,
and they both were capable and committed Domestic Violence acts.
I think that at the next family picnic she could still afford to bring the steak,
might ask him to bring the buns.

I sure hope someone takes leadership and sorts this all out, no double standard.
I have no idea of the %'s and would look forward to hearing what they are.....
but,
Does not make sense that men are the 95% in rehab or anger management classes.
Does it ? What do I know.......

Just me....just using the number 20 because it is probably close..
And I predicate this with...I have NEVER, or will never strike a woman or child in my life.
Of the 20 girls I would have dated/courted before marrying, I would say I broke up with 3
because when they got drunk, they got violent, including striking.
Of the 20 couples/friends, just the very close ones, I can confidently say that none of my
male friends are capable or would strike a women, or else they would not be friends.
However, I can confirm, that 8 have indicated to me in confidence that their spouses have
been violent with them. Again, when under the influence. Unfortunately in my profession
career, friends do confide. I do not work in the field of Domestic Violence so do not hold
myself out as an expert. My experiences definitely may not be representative.

Again, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents, a lot of talk has been going on regarding this subject,
and only talk with help people understand what is acceptable.
 

Celticman

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Interesting....
Canada-man....fabulous summary of the facts.
Canada-Man has never been guilty of summarizing the facts. Fabulously or otherwise. He copy-pastes from his articles to give a surface illusion of authorship. His post is absent one iota of originality let alone an opinion or input. Given the volume of threads that he starts based on his internet surfing some genuine analysis or input would be in order.
 

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So no one thinks a felony is more serious than a misdemeanor.

OK...
For sure. Just as there is a difference between shop lifting and bank robbery. But in the climate of off-field violence by professional athletes, a man should not be allowed to represent his country, his COUNTRY FFS, under any circumstance or degree of violence, especially the lame excuse of the governing body that he cannot be denied a chance of the record. Like it or not, it might have been OK a few weeks ago, it is not OK today.

Crap, sorry, I typed that thinking it was a guy, hence my disapprobation. In that it is a woman, that is "different". Of course it is OK and she can play for the US and probably keep her Nike sponsor $$. WTF was I thinking. Next thing you know I will be campaigning for an egalitarian society and justice system.
 

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Canada-Man has never been guilty of summarizing the facts. Fabulously or otherwise. He copy-pastes from his articles to give a surface illusion of authorship. His post is absent one iota of originality let alone an opinion or input. Given the volume of threads that he starts based on his internet surfing some genuine analysis or input would be in order.
i always list the sources quit whining
 

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The NFL Has a Lower Rate of Domestic Violence Than the General Population

Back in 1999, leading criminologist Alfred Blumstein teamed up with author Jeff Benedict, who has written five books focused on crime and athletics, to compare rates of criminal violence among NFL players to that of the general population. Controlling for age, they found that the annual rate of assault and domestic violence among NFL players was less than half that of the general population.

But Blumstein and Benedict's analysis is fifteen years dated. Perhaps things have changed in that time?

It doesn't appear they have. Back in July, FiveThirtyEight's Benjamin Morris tallied up the incidents in USA Today's NFL Arrests Database to discern crime rates among NFL players. He then compared those numbers to the national averages among 25-29 year olds, and found the rate of domestic violence in the NFL to be 55.4% that of the general population. And the overall crime rate was a mere 13% of the national average.


http://www.realclearscience.com/blo...lence_crime_much_lower_among_nfl_players.html
 

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Sorry Canada-man...
This is my first post on the discussion pages as this is a sensitive topic.

Didn't realize that you may have something going on with Celticman, sorry to start anything.
However, based on 2 replies needed to figure out she actually is a women....
Celticman just looks forward to the opportunity to jump on your post asap
He does not like any posts longer than 2 sentences, otherwise, I would have expected a rebuttal to mine....

I have no solution to how to win the argument of "he just cuts and pastes statistics and facts"

Keep it simple C-man....I guess that is what I have learned.
95% of the visitors are just looking for hot pussy
 

Celticman

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Sorry Canada-man...
This is my first post on the discussion pages as this is a sensitive topic.

Didn't realize that you may have something going on with Celticman, sorry to start anything.
However, based on 2 replies needed to figure out she actually is a women....
Celticman just looks forward to the opportunity to jump on your post asap
He does not like any posts longer than 2 sentences, otherwise, I would have expected a rebuttal to mine....

I have no solution to how to win the argument of "he just cuts and pastes statistics and facts"

Keep it simple C-man....I guess that is what I have learned.
95% of the visitors are just looking for hot pussy
A scathing retort. I am crushed.

It took you five year s and 3 posts and this is your in depth knowledge and expertise of what goes on here? If you knew anything, the stat of 95% of visitors looking for hot pussy is WAY short of the mark. And if this were to become an evidentiary discussion Canada-Man and you represent a large body of men that come here for reasons other than pussy. Not sure if you are acrobatic, but if you are, stand on your head and this pic will give a good perspective of your views. Don’t be a stranger for another five years.

http://i57.tinypic.com/34i1b3s.jpg
 

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A scathing retort. I am crushed.

It took you five year s and 3 posts and this is your in depth knowledge and expertise of what goes on here? If you knew anything, the stat of 95% of visitors looking for hot pussy is WAY short of the mark. And if this were to become an evidentiary discussion Canada-Man and you represent a large body of men that come here for reasons other than pussy. Not sure if you are acrobatic, but if you are, stand on your head and this pic will give a good perspective of your views. Don’t be a stranger for another five years.

http://i57.tinypic.com/34i1b3s.jpg
Blackrock13, with a thesaurus.
 

Celticman

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Blackrock13, with a thesaurus.
I see you have not recovered from the spanking that I administered a couple of months ago. Not to worry, time heals all, feelings and bruises. Au contraire re your comparison. Blackrock was an endless Troll who never started a thread to review an escort. And lest we forget, this is an escort review board. So the greater Blackrock similarity is easily you as a comparable. I think the closest you came to starting a thread was your appeal to Kyra Graves to clear her inbox so you could send her a prurient PM. Tacky. BTW, if you would like me to dumb down my use of English for you, please let me know.
 

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I see you have not recovered from the spanking that I administered a couple of months ago. Not to worry, time heals all, feelings and bruises. Au contraire re your comparison. Blackrock was an endless Troll who never started a thread to review an escort. And lest we forget, this is an escort review board. So the greater Blackrock similarity is easily you as a comparable. I think the closest you came to starting a thread was your appeal to Kyra Graves to clear her inbox so you could send her a prurient PM. Tacky. BTW, if you would like me to dumb down my use of English for you, please let me know.
Viggio doesn't post escort
Reviews either???? Omg. Now there are Two of A Kind!!! Bahahaaaaaaa. No wonder hes sticking up for Pee Wee
 

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Too funny Celticman or woman.
Can differentiate the sexes, can count posts, can subtract...year joined vs. 2014
I can see I am out of my league.
Didn't realize I wasn't welcome in the sandbox.
I will take my ball and go home.
Of course, I could not possibly have anything intelligent to say.
I will go back to being one of the 5% I guess.
 

Celticman

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Too funny Celticman or woman.
Can differentiate the sexes, can count posts, can subtract...year joined vs. 2014
I can see I am out of my league.
Didn't realize I wasn't welcome in the sandbox.
I will take my ball and go home.
Of course, I could not possibly have anything intelligent to say.
I will go back to being one of the 5% I guess.
Now, now. No pouting.
 

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Poor baby.
I imagine the reason you don't post on CAERF any more is that you had a similar snit with members.

:eyebrows:
 

Celticman

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Poor baby.
I imagine the reason you don't post on CAERF any more is that you had a similar snit with members.

:eyebrows:
So now all you have going for you is your imagination. Log onto caerf and look at my handle. Says guest. For the clueless that means asked to have account closed. Keep trying. Maybe you can imagine something better.
 
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