Home security companies?
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You looking for camera systems, full monitoring systems etc? Need a little more information.
I would recommend Window Bars Ltd. http://www.windowbarsinc.com/
I had outside security cameras installed by what I thought was reputable company. They went out of business 2 years after I got my system and when I starting having issues, I had no support. Parts came from china, so again no support.
I called Window Bars, and they did what they could. They normally don't work with other systems but they did me solid. Sadly, the system crashed again and there was nothing they could do so I spent another 5K ish for a new system.
My advice, make sure you investigate the company for things like length of business. I had a system that lasted maybe 4 years before needing to replace. Other thing I would look at is ensure the company buys local products. Window Bars, uses a manufacture in Markham. This makes it easier for repair or replacement of the camera systems.
Don't buy a system from some place like Costco and get someone to set up. If you are serious about home security, then really investigate it.
For in-home monitoring, I use Rogers smart home. Been using if it for a few years now, and I am happy with it. I don't pay for the live monitoring but I don't think I need to at this point in my life. I have sensors on all windows, and doors, and motion sensors in the basement level. I do have their keyless entry locks which I like. I have rules set up like on the bedroom windows for my kids room. When they were a little younger, they were not so happy about that. Made sneaking in or out of the house impossible as teens.
I would recommend Window Bars Ltd. http://www.windowbarsinc.com/
I had outside security cameras installed by what I thought was reputable company. They went out of business 2 years after I got my system and when I starting having issues, I had no support. Parts came from china, so again no support.
I called Window Bars, and they did what they could. They normally don't work with other systems but they did me solid. Sadly, the system crashed again and there was nothing they could do so I spent another 5K ish for a new system.
My advice, make sure you investigate the company for things like length of business. I had a system that lasted maybe 4 years before needing to replace. Other thing I would look at is ensure the company buys local products. Window Bars, uses a manufacture in Markham. This makes it easier for repair or replacement of the camera systems.
Don't buy a system from some place like Costco and get someone to set up. If you are serious about home security, then really investigate it.
For in-home monitoring, I use Rogers smart home. Been using if it for a few years now, and I am happy with it. I don't pay for the live monitoring but I don't think I need to at this point in my life. I have sensors on all windows, and doors, and motion sensors in the basement level. I do have their keyless entry locks which I like. I have rules set up like on the bedroom windows for my kids room. When they were a little younger, they were not so happy about that. Made sneaking in or out of the house impossible as teens.
You get what you pay for. With Stink Protection you get a box by courier with your alarm system in it and you sticky tape it to the wall yourself. I think with Alarm Farce they come and sticky tape it for you for a price. I follow the business news and I believe that these two companies were started by the same owner but he may have sold one. What you are getting is the fast food of security systems. The best systems and the ones that the insurance companies recognize for high value places are wired in systems. If you have existing wiring from an old install then you only need to put in new electronics.
Actually, my home insurance recognised Alarmforce, and gave me an appropriate discount for using them. The reason that I fired them was that they went downhill after all the years that I had used their services.
As for wireless systems, they have advantages over wired ones, one fo which is that there are no wires to cut so that the system or parts of the system are deactivated.
Wireless systems are junk. Sorry.
If you talk to any well experienced alarm tech, he will tell you that a hard wired system is absolutely the way to go.
Companies flog wireless because it's quick and easy to install and they are out the door.
Hardwired is vastly superior because
1. Less prone to failure.
2. Cannot be hacked as easily.
3. No chance of interference
4. No bulky transmitters everywhere. Door pins are invisible for example.
5. Less prone to false alarms.
6. No constantly changing of batteries.
There are some very high end alarm systems out there and they are always wired systems.
If you talk to any well experienced alarm tech, he will tell you that a hard wired system is absolutely the way to go.
Companies flog wireless because it's quick and easy to install and they are out the door.
Hardwired is vastly superior because
1. Less prone to failure.
2. Cannot be hacked as easily.
3. No chance of interference
4. No bulky transmitters everywhere. Door pins are invisible for example.
5. Less prone to false alarms.
6. No constantly changing of batteries.
There are some very high end alarm systems out there and they are always wired systems.
I should have said that too.
All my stuff while wifi capable, but they are all hard wired as well. I have HD IP IR cameras.
I actually do that in my house for internet too. Everything is hardwired. It all works on the wifi network too, but hard wired is just the best.
All my stuff while wifi capable, but they are all hard wired as well. I have HD IP IR cameras.
I actually do that in my house for internet too. Everything is hardwired. It all works on the wifi network too, but hard wired is just the best.
If you are wealthy and own a lot of stuff and have a property that might be a target then you should be able to afford the system you need. Judge what you might consider irreplaceable but stealable as well. And what your insurance coverage is.
If you are like me I just made sure I have secure doors and windows. My place is non descrept. And really I don't own much that isn't replaceable and I have full coverage for under insurance.
I might look into a wireless motion sensor system in the future with a nice big alarm to scare the shit out of burglars and neighbours.
Honestly though the next thing on my list is a generator hooked into my grid so power failures become moot.
If you are like me I just made sure I have secure doors and windows. My place is non descrept. And really I don't own much that isn't replaceable and I have full coverage for under insurance.
I might look into a wireless motion sensor system in the future with a nice big alarm to scare the shit out of burglars and neighbours.
Honestly though the next thing on my list is a generator hooked into my grid so power failures become moot.
It is not that simple cut and dried.
https://www.deluxealarms.com/wired-vs-wireless-alarms.html
[h=2]Wired vs. Wireless Home Security Systems[/h]
Home security systems mostly all consist of the same components, including a central alarm panel with a keypad user interface, door and window sensors, motion detectors, heat detectors, smoke detectors, and even glass break detectors. One of the primary considerations necessary in choosing which alarm system is right for you will be the need to decide whether to get a wired or wireless home security system.
Deluxe Alarms wired home security systems are composed of the alarm’s central control panel being connected with hard wires to each and every sensor installed in the home. The wires used to connect the devices are concealed behind walls and under floor boards similar to all other home electric wiring. Though they may seem cumbersome to install, there are many benefits to owning a wired alarm system.
Sensors for wired home alarm security systems are more affordable because they do not include any radio frequency electronics to communicate with the central control panel. These sensors are also constantly powered via the control panel, removing the need for periodic battery changing. One of the greatest advantages to owning a wired alarm system is that the sensors are not prone to being affected by interference through electronic appliances such as microwave or internet Wi-Fi signals.
A major concern with wired systems is the need for wires to be installed throughout homes to install each sensor. Fortunately, most new homes are built with the wiring for security systems preinstalled to every window and door so Home security systems installers can simply attach sensors with adhesives and the sensors to the wiring that is already in place. If your home does not have these wires preinstalled, Deluxe Alarms home security specialists will install them for you without causing damage to your home. It is a common misconception that the cost of installing wired systems exceeds that of wireless systems, however wired systems hardware comes at a lower cost. The advantages that come with owning a wired system will not require a greater investment.
Deluxe Alarms wireless home alarm systems operate essentially the same way as their wired counterparts, with the exception of the use of radio frequency (RF) sensors to communicate with the control panel rather than being connected with hard wires.
Wireless systems are extremely easy to install since no wires are necessary beyond the control panel. The sensors are preprogrammed to communicate through radio frequency signals with the central control panel. Wireless systems give the owners the flexibility to expand their system by adding additional preprogrammed sensors as easily as attaching them to their new locations using adhesives. These systems are also extremely easy to move to new homes since no wires have to be removed from the walls or floorboards. It is also impossible for criminals to attempt to cut wires in an attempt to bypass sensors and security cameras since they do not exist.
Both wired and wireless systems are extremely advantageous for home security protection. Deluxe alarms uses cutting edge technology, even if a wire were to be cut on wired systems, the alarm will be sounded, leaving wired systems with no real disadvantage next to wireless systems aside from ease of moving to a new home. If you intend to live in your home for a long term period, it would be wise to have a wired system installed. If you are planning to move in the near future, wireless systems are much easier to disconnect and reinstall in your new home.
And, there are hybrid systems, as well. we cannot make broad generalisations, although wired has an edge in terms of reliability.
http://www.onesourcesecurity.com/po.../entry/hardwired-vs-wireless-security-systems
Hardwired security system – Sensors placed throughout the building on doors and windows are wired directly to a control panel.
Pros
- More reliable than a wireless system.
- The system is less likely to have radio or electrical interference from other devices.
- Many of the components will be compatible with upgrades.
- Hardwired systems run on a/c power with battery backup in case of an electrical interruption.
- They offer a lower long term cost, no frequent battery replacement.
- Wiring can easily be completed while a building is being built or renovated.
- Connect through phone or computer system for remote monitoring.
- Good for medium to large businesses or homes.
- Can be difficult to install in some buildings.
- Hiding all the wires may be a challenge.
- Once installed, it may be difficult to remove and move to a new location.
- Labor costs can be higher.
- Renter? Will your landlord allow you to drill holes into the walls, floors and ceilings?
- Exposed wires can get damaged.
- Wiring a sensor to a particular point in the building may not be practical.
Wireless security system - Sensors placed throughout the building on doors and windows transmit signals to a control panel via radio waves.
Pros
- Relatively quick to install.
- Easier to reach inaccessible locations.
- Cost-effective installation.
- The system can be moved fairly easily.
- Flexible and can easily and quickly be extended to keep pace with a growing business.
- Suitable for smaller or medium commercial buildings.
- Good alternative for a concrete or cinderblock building.
- Sometimes it can be integrated with other wireless systems.
- Connect through phone or computer system for remote monitoring.
- No wires to run.
Cons
- More costly in the long run, replacing batteries can be costly and time consuming.
- There can be radio interference, sensor issues in large buildings due to the distance from the sensor to the control panel.
- Components can cost more.
Our recommendation depends upon the customer; we evaluate their needs, their building or buildings and property along with taking into consideration their security concerns. These concerns usually revolve around protecting people and property.
We try to provide the best security system solution to meet all of our clients’ needs. Some need a fully wired system because of the size of their building; some will need a fully wireless system because the building is concrete, while others will need a hybrid, a combination of both. Setting up a combined system works well in most situations.
The hybrid system gives greater flexibility, using both wired and wireless system components. These components can easily be combined, using the same programming, signaling and standard detectors. Sensors can be installed in areas where wires cannot reach, while more sensitive areas can be hardwired directly to the panel.
Whichever you choose it must be a reliable system, and always use a professional security system integrator to install your system. The knowledge and expertise will ensure the system is installed correctly and you will have the customer service to back up your new system.
One type of system to stay away from is a stand alone all in one box alarm system. It can all be in one box with the control panel, keypad siren, battery sitting on a table or it can be screwed to the wall with remote door and motion sensors. The problem with these systems are that they are all in one. If a burglar enters the premises and activated the delay, he would have that time to walk over to the device and beat the crap out of it.
I would keep it simple but buy the best. I would not buy the Swiss Army knife systems that could have a camera so that you can see your cat or turn on devices in your home. If you want these systems buy them separately. It is amazing to me that I know people that spend $3000-5000 on a vacation and them brag that they only paid $199 for an alarm system to protect their home when they were away.
A good wired in system will go for about $2500 to $4000. Alarm Farce and Stink Protection want you to believe that you are protected in the best way possible when if truth they have made you feel good with the lowest price possible. At this time Stink Protection will provide you with a system for $199 less $100 = $99. You have to remember that in this price they have to pay for advertising, equipment, shipping by courrier, the phone sales persons commission and tech support.
An analogy is a good wired in system is like the top of the line Nikon or Canon DSLR camera and the quicky glue to the wall system is like the $79 pocket digital camera. If the cheapy is all you need or can afford, it is better than nothing.
I would keep it simple but buy the best. I would not buy the Swiss Army knife systems that could have a camera so that you can see your cat or turn on devices in your home. If you want these systems buy them separately. It is amazing to me that I know people that spend $3000-5000 on a vacation and them brag that they only paid $199 for an alarm system to protect their home when they were away.
A good wired in system will go for about $2500 to $4000. Alarm Farce and Stink Protection want you to believe that you are protected in the best way possible when if truth they have made you feel good with the lowest price possible. At this time Stink Protection will provide you with a system for $199 less $100 = $99. You have to remember that in this price they have to pay for advertising, equipment, shipping by courrier, the phone sales persons commission and tech support.
An analogy is a good wired in system is like the top of the line Nikon or Canon DSLR camera and the quicky glue to the wall system is like the $79 pocket digital camera. If the cheapy is all you need or can afford, it is better than nothing.
This is why I prefer to live in a condo.
First you have to make it past lobby concierge.
Then you have to make it past my locked door.
Then you have to make it past my ensuite security alarm.
Then you have to make it past my personal motion-sensored alarm and CCTV camera.
Once you done all that you have to make it past my shotgun which I keep under my bed.
And if thats not enough, I also have a door-club installed at my door for when I sleep at night.
Its much better than a bolt lock IMO:
First you have to make it past lobby concierge.
Then you have to make it past my locked door.
Then you have to make it past my ensuite security alarm.
Then you have to make it past my personal motion-sensored alarm and CCTV camera.
Once you done all that you have to make it past my shotgun which I keep under my bed.
And if thats not enough, I also have a door-club installed at my door for when I sleep at night.
Its much better than a bolt lock IMO:
Man! I live in a house with no security and half the time I forget to lock my front door.
I thought about getting a pitbull with AIDS too, but that might be taking things a bit far
Durham is slightly different but even here things are changing and you should at least remember to lock your doors.
or do like I did and get keyless entry. I so love them. Don't have to worry about losing keys - which I did all the time - or locking yourself out - which I did a lot of too sadly. LOL
Mine has come in handy a few times. Not just for me but neighbours as well. My cameras overlap and show some of the public street and around some of my neighbours {all with permission of course}. It has stopped some teens from using our corner to deal weed, they have been used to help catch a person who fire bomb a couple of cars in the area, helped ID a man who left his dog in a truck for over 3 hours just a couple of weeks ago and I believe it has deterred some negative behaviour from people who have been axed out of my life. Also worked great for ensuring good teenage behaviour. No sneaking in and out, no parties when I was not home, etc. They did all that at the parents house without systems.
I am not stupid though, these systems are mainly a hopeful deterrent, or will be used to hopefully catch the people who do something, but after the fact. Let's be real, if someone wants to break into your house bad enough, they will.
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