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danmand

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The swine flu actually originated in a small part of central Mexico.......And you can’t even begin to compare that to a global pandemic in which the Chinese government could have swiftly prevented it from becoming one......Lots of pandemics originate from animals but that’s another topic altogether.....We’ve seen it before in the past: wet markets are the perfect breeding ground for zoonotic viruses in which we don’t have acquired immunity to....Oh yeah and after all that is said and done these wet markets aren’t even permanently banned yet.....Try to grasp that for just a moment now....
I will go with what the CDC says: https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/information_h1n1_virus_qa.htm

It is estimated that in the 2009 flu pandemic 11–21% of the then global population (of about 6.8 billion), or around 700 million to 1.4 billion people, contracted the illness—more in absolute terms than the Spanish flu pandemic. However, with about 150,000–575,000 fatalities, it had a much lower case fatality rate. In August 2010, the World Health Organization declared the swine flu pandemic officially over.

The close proximity of animals and humans makes Zoonotic illnesses inevitably more common as the overpopulation of the planet progresses. It is not a Chinese problem; it is a global problem. Viruses have no nationality.

Please stop beating the war drums, there are enough problems already.
 

smallhatchet

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I suspect you had pork from North America.

The Swine flu pandemic of 2009 originated in USA. I assume you refer to it as the American flu.

LMAO..the swine flu came from Mexico by close contact to pigs. Hence the name "SWINE" flu. It was confirmed it came from pigs vs. nobody really knowing what animal COVID19 originated from and thus calling it the Chinese flu.

BTW, where was the Spanish flu from? I wonder if racism was around then and why are people still calling it that? Kinda hurts my feelings.
 

SchlongConery

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LMAO..the swine flu came from Mexico by close contact to pigs. Hence the name "SWINE" flu. It was confirmed it came from pigs vs. nobody really knowing what animal COVID19 originated from and thus calling it the Chinese flu.

BTW, where was the Spanish flu from? I wonder if racism was around then and why are people still calling it that? Kinda hurts my feelings.

The Spanish Flu got its name because while the rest of the post WW1 world was downplaying or censoring bad news of the severity of the global pandemic, Spain was neutral in WW1, Spanish newspapers were free to open the information floodgates.
 

apoptygma

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LMAO..the swine flu came from Mexico by close contact to pigs. Hence the name "SWINE" flu. It was confirmed it came from pigs vs. nobody really knowing what animal COVID19 originated from and thus calling it the Chinese flu.

BTW, where was the Spanish flu from? I wonder if racism was around then and why are people still calling it that? Kinda hurts my feelings.
According to the CDC, see post 22, it originated in the United States.
 

SchlongConery

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I suspect you had pork from North America.

The Swine flu pandemic of 2009 originated in USA. I assume you refer to it as the American flu.

You mean do I suffer from "Whattaboutism"?

Back to this pandemic.

The evidence is that the virus crossed into humans directly as a result of the grossly unhygienic conditions in the Chinese wildlife wet-market.

Do you disagree that the grossly unhygienic market conditions and demand and consumption of wildlife such as bats, pangolins, snakes, rats etc are the source of this pandemic?

Do you support cultural accommodation in Canada so we allow a special "Chinese Wildlife Wet Market" at the St Lawrence Market?
 

james t kirk

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The swine flu actually originated in a small part of central Mexico.......And you can’t even begin to compare that to a global pandemic in which the Chinese government could have swiftly prevented it from becoming one......Lots of pandemics originate from animals but that’s another topic altogether.....We’ve seen it before in the past: wet markets are the perfect breeding ground for zoonotic viruses in which we don’t have acquired immunity to....Oh yeah and after all that is said and done these wet markets aren’t even permanently banned yet.....Try to grasp that for just a moment now....
Quite correct.

The so called "wet markets" are a nightmare of filth and horror. I've seen images of them and it's scarred in my memory how the animals are absolutely tortured and abused. Sanitary conditions? Please don't make me laugh. It's not even a suggestion in China. Hell, you can just take a walk around Chinatown in Toronto and smell it for yourself.
 

james t kirk

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You mean do I suffer from "Whattaboutism"?

Back to this pandemic.

The evidence is that the virus crossed into humans directly as a result of the grossly unhygienic conditions in the Chinese wildlife wet-market.

Do you disagree that the grossly unhygienic market conditions and demand and consumption of wildlife such as bats, pangolins, snakes, rats etc are the source of this pandemic?

Do you support cultural accommodation in Canada so we allow a special "Chinese Wildlife Wet Market" at the St Lawrence Market?
Quoted for the truth.

You can add to that list how the Chinese (Traditional Chinese Medicine) are responsible for the virtual extinction of various endangered animals (Rinos, tigers, black bears, sea turtles, and of course, the ivory trade). It's virtual voodoo and yet millions of Chinese are creating a huge demand for it that is leading to the wholesale slaughter of animals.

This entire pandemic needs to serve as a wake up call to the rest of the world to shine a spot light on the complete disregard that the Chinese people have for animals. This abuse needs to end period.
 

TeeJay

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It should be called CCP coronavirus. Don't believe the Chinese Communist party spin. They covered it up for weeks, putting the entire world into this situation. Don't stop reminding everyone of the origins of the virus. Not the Chinese people - their evil corrupt communist overlord.
Meh the incompetence of the Italian fascists did more to spread it across Europe and to most of North America than anything Asia did
 
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