Here We Go Again

blackrock13

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Ottawa has offered poor Air Canada a 21 month holiday on pension fund payments.

Have we been here before with GM?
 
Will WestJet and Porter get the same treatment?? Me thinks not. Unreal. I am all for supporting Canadian industry, especially vital and high-profile ones like Air Canada. But....why is government competing with private industry?
 
I was looking for airfares to go to Winnipeg (not for myself) and I just can't believe the prices are so high. It was almost $500 return. IMHO, I think it's insane. The airlines will jack up the price even for last minute flights and will leave the plane nearly empty for a scheduled flight.

I recently was travelling in the U.S. and flights were not nearly as much. Not even close come to think of it. I understand it is much more expensive to fly out of Toronto but it shouldn't be that much more and the airlines should promote lower fares within our great country.

I would think that they would want to fill the plane before it took off. :rolleyes:
 
blackrock13 said:
Ottawa has offered poor Air Canada a 21 month holiday on pension fund payments.

Have we been here before with GM?

Well at least we, the taxpayers, don't have to fund anything this time.
 
CapitalGuy said:
Will WestJet and Porter get the same treatment?? Me thinks not. Unreal. I am all for supporting Canadian industry, especially vital and high-profile ones like Air Canada. But....why is government competing with private industry?


Daughter checked a flight from Halifax to TO return 1,000.00 plus

Westjet just over 500 to Hamilton

No wonder they are losing money!!!!!!!!!!

I rarely if ever fly AC I fly out of Buffalo usually SOUTHWEST I dont need frills etc. Its easier cheaper less hassles.Once you cross border you have cleared US Customs.
 
train said:
Well at least we, the taxpayers, don't have to fund anything this time.

Heard that over 90% of all pension plans, including public sector ones funded with taxpayer money, are "underwater". It is not unusual for public servants to spend more years collecting pension money than in active service.
 
SkyRider said:
Heard that over 90% of all pension plans, including public sector ones funded with taxpayer money, are "underwater". It is not unusual for public servants to spend more years collecting pension money than in active service.

Defined benefit pension plans are underwater because the growth in pension plan assets from an appreciating stock market up until mid '08 was greater than the increase in liabilities. With the market losing 30% of its value its easy to see how they got to where they are now.
 
Problem is most of the plans are funded only by the employer with no employee contributions....that just leads the road to bankruptcy when business declines.