Help on Buying HDTV Widescreen TV's

[xix]

Laser ?

XiX... what the hell is LASER HDTV. Do you mean OLED ( Organic Light Emitting Diodes), or the SED format on the horizon, or the nanotechnology that will let you roll up a screen in a tube and take it your neighbours house? But not for a few years yet?

A today purchase is one of a few choices, Plasma, LCD panel, DLP, LCD rear projection, Front LCD or DLP projection and of course CRT and Rear CRT projection. All have advantages in terms of performance/price/ asthetics.

You need to view them all to make up your own mind.
A few caveats:


But but what you like. A 50 inch HDTV Ready set today is less expensive than a 32"CRT was 8 years ago, in relative dollars.

Yes I really meant Laser Tv. I am sure you have seen how smal laser pointers are?
I will see if I can remember where I saw the article. It was in a magazine not sure which one but I only read a few ( 6). It will be the size of a DLP TV.

I think there might be a limitation on size.

http://www.kompetenznetze.de/navi/e...logie/02innovationshighlights,did=123190.html

http://www.mitsi.com/Projects/alp.htm

 

[seymore]

Okay,.... there was a German study in 2003 and a Japanese study in 1999 on holography for limited TV applications. Interesting stuff, and very Star Trek. But if you were to give advice to someone who wants to buy an HDTV set soon, the suggestion to hold off for Holography ( or laser if you wish) is not really useful. Just my opinion, and with that, I'll sign off with " Make it so".

 

[Tyler1]

If your always waiting for the latest & greatest TV technology just around the corner (or anything for that matter), you'll never have a new TV. Plus it has a premium.

 

[Garrett]

OK, do you realize just how long 60,000 hrs is?

Say you get home from work at 6 and watch tv every night until midnight. Then on the weekend you watch for 12 hrs sat. and 12 hrs sunday.

That's 54 hrs a week every week for 52 weeks = 2808 hrs per year

Divide 60,000 by 2808 = 21 FUCKING YEARS. Can anyone tell me who has a tv that is still working from 1994?

My point was, the 60,000 limit may be artificial. Go watch a set at half brightness and let me know if you are content with it. Also, given the fact that the brightness seems to decay at a fairly linear rate, actual usable lifetime may be significantly less. At what point is the picture simply not bright enough? I don't know... but I would suggest it is far in advance of 60,000 hours. Also, most people tend to run with color/brightness pretty cranked (far in excess of what professional calibration would do).

My personal preference is LCD front projection. Hard to get excited over a 60" screen vs a 120" screen.

 

[Sargeant StiffCock]

OK, do you realize just how long 60,000 hrs is?

Say you get home from work at 6 and watch tv every night until midnight. Then on the weekend you watch for 12 hrs sat. and 12 hrs sunday.

That's 54 hrs a week every week for 52 weeks = 2808 hrs per year

Divide 60,000 by 2808 = 21 FUCKING YEARS. Can anyone tell me who has a tv that is still working from 1994?

Anyhow, I read somewhere that they did a burn in test on the plasmas and left a game on for 3 or 4 days. There was slight burn in that disappeared after 2 hrs of regular tv watching....

The problem you were/are thinking of is with the original rear projection tv's and the screen they were using. The problem with a lot of video games is that they have some images that stay on the screen no matter what stage you're playing (such as score, time, map etc). These images could be a cause of burnin but if you're playing for 3 days straight, you ought to see a shrink cause you've got a MAJOR problem on your hands lol.

Don't you mean 1984?

 

[tboy]

oops yeah, 1984, very george orwell lol

As for the rate of decay etc. if the average rating is 60,000 hrs, then there are some out there that went 120,000 hrs as a usable lifetime.

BTW, I didn't back up this data, I found that 60K hrs on the other thread about plasma lifetimes.....and that poster listed some sites that his data was listed on....if you want to research, knock yerself out!

 

[Cobster]

read the last page, last post
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=86509&page=4&highlight=hdtv

 

[Cobster]

Another thing to add about 60,000hr lifespan
Your average tube tv lasts about 20,000
So take 20,000 by a mulitple of 3.

I learned that from the panasonic people, when we were sent for a full days learning event from all the big names (Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, etc).
I used to work in a home theatre department of a big chan store, selling the stuff.

Don't buy monster cable, mark-up is 50% of the retail price.
It's killer packaging and really sweet looking cables.
Acoustic research will do the same job, or any others.
Monster Cable is just a really well marketed brand name.
(actually it's a shitty as marketed cable, but they try to come across as a quality cable)

One thing about DLP - it's a Texas Instrument technology.
So for any big name company to have that technology in their unit, they have to pay TI a royalty fee for it. Guess who eventually pays for that price, and where it carries over into to?
You, and the price is in the new TV you're purchasing.
I'm not a big fan of it, lots of reasons for it.
But, you can't go wrong with a nice Espon projector (if you have the right environment set up for it - minimal light, basement, etc, etc)
Now you're talking entertainment...if not, Hitachi makes some amazing LCD pro-jo's...as well as Toshiba pro-jo's (projection).

 

[Blade]

My 2 cents...

First of all, don't wait. Prices are always dropping on this high tech stuff, whether its electronics, computers, etc. If you can afford it and can justify it, then get off the sidelines and get into the game.

There will always be something better and cheaper on the horizon - that is never going to stop.

As far as HDTV is concerned, it is amazing. I have Rogers HD, component video out to my Sony 42" rear projection lcd, coax digital audio out to my reciever - it is great. The originating broadcast must be in HD to get the real impact. Once you see it, you will never question it again.

As far as HDMI is concerned, right now I don't think it is worth it. What is the sense of having your audio signal going into your tv ? For the best effect, you need your audio going to your receiver.

I have seen receivers starting to come out with HDMI interfaces, so that is good news. Then you will have your audio and video all in one cable and be able to get HD picture and digital sound.

Brand recommendations ? Very subjective. My recommendation would be the Sony XBR Bravia line of LCD's. Premium priced, and perhaps overpriced, but a top quaility look and performance.

Again, just my 2 cents.

Blade

 

[Reload]

Divide 60,000 by 2808 = 21 FUCKING YEARS. Can anyone tell me who has a tv that is still working from 1994?

I have one from 1989 and I'm actually watching a rerun of "Dog Eat Dog" right now as I type.

 

[Meister]

Futurshop has a great deal:

Purchase the Sharp AQUOS 42" Flat-Panel LCD HDTV with 1080p and Pioneer 1000-Watt 5.1 Channel Receiver and HDMI Home Theatre System for only $2299.99 SAVE 700!

 

[Cobster]

lmao gotta love when real old posts come back to life.
WTF Meister? lol

 

[Meister]

I didn't think it was worth creating a new thread for this so I tagged it onto an old one. I love old threads because all of the sudden you see some names you haven't seen in years like teabowl or tugger or tbill.

 

[Larry_Fyne]

...
Divide 60,000 by 2808 = 21 FUCKING YEARS. Can anyone tell me who has a tv that is still working from 1994?
...

I have a 21 inch Zenith that I bought in 1986 that still works. It has stereo, SAP, and it has multiple video/audio inputs.

 

[tboy]

I have a 21 inch Zenith that I bought in 1986 that still works. It has stereo, SAP, and it has multiple video/audio inputs.

Good, I bet it makes a great bedroom tv.....although compare it to the new HD LCD's and it probably blows. Though I got rid of a 27" RCA 2 summers ago that was finally biting the dust. It was only 10 yrs old however.

BTW: did anyone else hear about the new 110" lcd's that Sharp (I think it was sharp) are bringing out? That's like 8 1/2 feet diagonal...jesus....can you imagine watching a porno on it? The damn pussy shot would be like 5' high lol

 

[Berlin]

110" ... how big a room it has to be for optimal viewing, you gotta sit like 20 feet from the screen , or maybe more ?

 

[Cobster]

I sit approximately 15'-20' from a 52" and think it's small now.
So 110' I'd say, to be comfortable, 25'-30', but after awhile, you'll think it's a girly mon TV.

 

[Berlin]

Exactly, 25-30. Ain't got real estate for that.

 

[tboy]

110" ... how big a room it has to be for optimal viewing, you gotta sit like 20 feet from the screen , or maybe more ?

That's one thing that kills me: for a 46" they reccommend being about 8' away and as you say, for the 110 you have to be 20 feet.

So, why buy such a big screen anyways if you have to sit so far away? It boils down to the actual image that you see is the same as if you bought a 42" and sat closer. I can see it if you have an extremely large room and want to see the image from anywhere in the room.

I have a 46" and sit about 6' away because I want the impact that you can only get from a large image. I mean I want to see the detail that HD offers (like the flecks of gold in Uma Thurman's eyes) that you can't see from across the room. Like when there's a car chase and the cars zoom across the screen. When you're close, they actually go across your FOV instead of just a flick of your eyes, you have to turn your head slightly.

Maybe someone can splain it to me cuz I just don't get the whole concept.

 

[tboy]

Nothing wrong with DLP, they have great pictures and aren't half as deep as the old rear projection.

Only thing to watch for is having to replace the lamp. You can do it yourself but they are costly.....