Heather Heyer was killed yesterday by a terrorist

[fuji]

Definitely into full hysterical now. Soon he will be ranting how we are denounced in Canada.

Still waiting on my crisp Letter from Trudeau for that.

Oh and fuji for the record I'm protected against the likes of you taking my citizenship. But that's what Fascists do. Seek to demonize opponents.

Keep squirming. You openly support the IRA, a terrorist organization that donated bombs in public streets just like the Boston Marathon bombers. The kids killed by the IRA weren't oppressing anyone, the innocent men and women killed we're just people shopping and going about their business.

You're terrorist loving scum.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You're terrorist loving scum

I thought you said you dont "throw around the school yard insults", fuji.
Calling someone scum is not an insult to you??

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...o-carjacking&p=5834069&viewfull=1#post5834069

I didn't throw around the school yard insults you like to resort to. Perhaps I'm used to a higher level of intellectual discussion than you are

And LOL @ higher level of intellect :biggrin1:

 

[Butler1000]

Keep squirming. You openly support the IRA, a terrorist organization that donated bombs in public streets just like the Boston Marathon bombers. The kids killed by the IRA weren't oppressing anyone, the innocent men and women killed we're just people shopping and going about their business.

You're terrorist loving scum.

You're hysterical again. I'm really not sure how or why you trigger so easily. But if you are going to be in the political section you really need to calm down.

I'm pragmatic. When peace is achieved you forgive. And move on. That's what civilized gov'ts and people do.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You're hysterical again. I'm really not sure how or why you trigger so easily. But if you are going to be in the political section you really need to calm down

Its one of his typical 2am posts. Thats when he's at his angriest. Not sure if thats because his meds have worn off, or maybe he's mad cause he got rejected by the agency girls he drives around

 

[nottyboi]

You sound just like Osama bin Laden.

Nice attempt to distract from the truthfulness of my statement. Our media almost never shows us any images of the carnage we cause abroad. Why do you think that is? They used to show it in Vietnam...hint hint...

 

[Butler1000]

Keep squirming. You openly support the IRA, a terrorist organization that donated bombs in public streets just like the Boston Marathon bombers. The kids killed by the IRA weren't oppressing anyone, the innocent men and women killed we're just people shopping and going about their business.

You're terrorist loving scum.

Do you really want to use children's deaths as the bar? Because there is more than enough imagery of the US military having killed them to qualify them as Terrorists in your book.

 

[fuji]

Do you really want to use children's deaths as the bar? Because there is more than enough imagery of the US military having killed them to qualify them as Terrorists in your book.

You sound like Osama bin Laden now. First you justify terrorism by calling them freedom fighters then you justify it by bitching about the USA.

You really are no different than al Qaeda.

 

[Butler1000]

You sound like Osama bin Laden now. First you justify terrorism by calling them freedom fighters then you justify it by bitching about the USA.

You really are no different than al Qaeda.

No. What I say is while there are no good guys in war there can be good outcomes. Once peace breaks out. But people have to be sick of war usually before they stop it.

The USA has fought both just and unjust wars. And killed children and civilians. And still in the just wars it was a good thing in the end because peace was achieved.

Same thing with the IRA and FARC as two examples. Peace broke out. So time to forgive and keep the peace.

 

[SkyRider]

No. What I say is while there are no good guys in war there can be good outcomes. Once peace breaks out. But people have to be sick of war usually before they stop it.

The USA has fought both just and unjust wars. And killed children and civilians. And still in the just wars it was a good thing in the end because peace was achieved.

Same thing with the IRA and FARC as two examples. Peace broke out. So time to forgive and keep the peace.

Our Fuji is too busy standing on his soapbox screaming to hear you. He's a screamer, not a listener.

 

[wigglee]

maybe he's mad cause he got rejected by the agency girls he drives around

Ha Ha ....good one.

 

[fuji]

No. What I say is while there are no good guys in war there can be good outcomes. Once peace breaks out. But people have to be sick of war usually before they stop it.

The USA has fought both just and unjust wars. And killed children and civilians. And still in the just wars it was a good thing in the end because peace was achieved.

Same thing with the IRA and FARC as two examples. Peace broke out. So time to forgive and keep the peace.

You justified IRA terrorism by bitching about the USA. I heard bin Laden say the same thing. All you supporters of terrorism are the same.

Targeting civilians is never acceptable. Targeting civilians alone with zero real military value is terrorism.

 

[fuji]

Our Fuji is too busy standing on his soapbox screaming to hear you. He's a screamer, not a listener.

You are morally insolvent, you have no ethics. Insulting me won't exonerate you for your support of the IRA.

 

[Butler1000]

You justified IRA terrorism by bitching about the USA. I heard bin Laden say the same thing. All you supporters of terrorism are the same.

Targeting civilians is never acceptable. Targeting civilians alone with zero real military value is terrorism.

So then you agree that the US military doesn't hold up well under your criteria.

Wanna discuss Dresden? Vietnam? Iraq?

 

[fuji]

So then you agree that the US military doesn't hold up well under your criteria.

Wanna discuss Dresden? Vietnam? Iraq?

I'm on record saying Dresden was a war crime and the Bomber Harris should be dug up, posthumously dishonorably discharged, and buried in a potters field. You can go find the threads.

Unlike you I don't ever condone targeting civilians.

And as I said, you sound just like bin Laden, you have the same terrorist mentality.

 

[Butler1000]

I'm on record saying Dresden was a war crime and the Bomber Harris should be dug up, posthumously dishonorably discharged, and buried in a potters field. You can go find the threads.

Unlike you I don't ever condone targeting civilians.

And as I said, you sound just like bin Laden, you have the same terrorist mentality.

And Vietnam, Iraq. How about when the sent a missile into Libya killing Ghadaffi's Child? It's not one incident. and these go up to the President ordering these actions.

Civilians die in war. And fighters turn swords into plowshares. Welcome to the real world.

 

[mandrill]

So then you agree that the US military doesn't hold up well under your criteria.

Wanna discuss Dresden? Vietnam? Iraq?

Dresden was a legitimate military target by the way. New information.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Dresden was a legitimate military target by the way. New information

Of course it was. Dresden was a major war industry and railway hub.

Those Kraut nazi's had it coming, and so did their women who did the majority of factory work making bombs that killed innocent people. The only sad part for me is they didnt kill more

 

[Butler1000]

Dresden was a legitimate military target by the way. New information.

Betting children died. That's the bar set by Fuji. And no answer about the other places.

Google images will prove I'm right.

 

[fuji]

And Vietnam, Iraq. How about when the sent a missile into Libya killing Ghadaffi's Child? It's not one incident. and these go up to the President ordering these actions.

Civilians die in war. And fighters turn swords into plowshares. Welcome to the real world.

The Geneva convention has clear and just principles on under what circumstances civilian deaths are an acceptable evil of war, and when it becomes a war crime.

Targeting civilians is ALWAYS criminal.

Civilians deaths as a side effect of military action are acceptable only if it was necessary to achieve a valid military objective and if the anticipated military gain is proportional to the anticipated casualties.

There's lots of debate about what is proportional, but suffice to say that bombing innocent civilians on a public street has no anticipated military value and thus is clearly illegal.

In any case you have a hole where your conscience should be. You gut should have told you that terrorism is always wrong you shouldn't need the Geneva convention to tell you that it's wrong to kill innocent people going about their daily lives as your primary objective.

You really are just completely immoral and henceforth your opinion on any topic can be ignored. You are an enemy of civilization and your name should be added to the no fly list for the safety of others.

 

[fuji]

Of course it was. Dresden was a major war industry and railway hub.

Those Kraut nazi's had it coming, and so did their women who did the majority of factory work making bombs that killed innocent people. The only sad part for me is they didnt kill more

Dresden fails the proportionality test in the Geneva convention, the anticipated military value did not justify the anticipated lots of life.

While the Nazis had it coming the process of Dresden were civilians, many of them simply victims of the Nazi regime. They did not have it coming. Their kids did not have it coming.

The proportionality test was not included in the GC until after WW2 but the principle really is universal so I would support they posthumous demotion and dishonorable discharge of all those involved in planning these attacks on German and Japanese cities.