Have you been asked what race you are by SP's

[slowandeasy]

It's not like she is selling a car buddy. Do you pick or avoid certain escorts? Some people do out of personal preference. This is an intimate act (even if done for cash) so people are allowed to do it with who they want.

You have the analogy all wrong buddy... The analogy would be that if a guy goes into a dealer to buy a car, and the car dealer says, "WE ONLY SELL TO WHITES"... You go to a Massage Therapist and she says "I only massage white people.... you have to have life saving heart surgery, and the doctor says "I cannot operate on this man, he is not white"

Sex is certainly a very personal and intimate act when behind closed doors ... when you advertise the service as pay for play then it becomes like any other service and should be treated as such

Plain and simple it's discrimination... it's her body and her choice of who she is comfortable with... but it does not make it right

 

[slowandeasy]

Everybody is racist in some way or another. I've heard from some SPs that they don't want to see any (of a certain race) because they've had bad or stinky experiences. So, all you bad and stinky guys, smart'n up!

So why don't they discriminate against the stinky guys only....

 

[Oil Please]

You have the analogy all wrong buddy... The analogy would be that if a guy goes into a dealer to buy a car, and the car dealer says, "WE ONLY SELL TO WHITES"... You go to a Massage Therapist and she says "I only massage white people.... you have to have life saving heart surgery, and the doctor says "I cannot operate on this man, he is not white"

Sex is certainly a very personal and intimate act when behind closed doors ... when you advertise the service as pay for play then it becomes like any other service and should be treated as such

In all that, it's discrimination...

No its not! So if one gets a bbbj and the next guy from the same sp gets a cbj even though he wanted a bbbj is that discrimination?

 

[goalie000]

There are a few Ladies who have preferences as to who they want to see and they are very upfront about it. Which I think they should be, solves a lot of problems before they happen. Just like guys want to know certain things before they book, size for example. Seems like a good thing to me.

 

[LancsLad]

I was runner up in the Black Bear of the month category. Got beaten by a damn Polar Bear for first place. Bears are all inclusive. Den de den den.

The politically correct party entered a Panda Bear. Typical.

 

[great bear]

The politically correct party entered a Panda Bear. Typical.

Damn Asians and their Panda Bears. Next thing you know Kola
Bears will demand top billing. Bear in mind there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Urban-Cowboy]

Why are they allowed to have a Nationally televised " Miss Black America " pageant but not a " Miss White America"


Just asking, damn there goes that double standard again. Maybe one of TERBs resident libs can explain why.

You already have a Miss White America pagent, it is called Miss America.

Tis true it is a double standard, and you will likly never understand way.

While this is racist (by definition) it is her right. Suck it up and move on.

 

[slowandeasy]

So what you are saying is that everyone including yourself discriminate but it's worse when it happens to you. We all face discrimination in this world. When I visit countries that the majority of people are a colour other than myself I am treated differently. It's human nature to congregate with people who share similar characteristics. To prefer to have sex with only one group or to exclude a group may be discrimination but by no means is it racism. I always thought racism was feeling superior to members of a different ethnic group. I don't want to have sex with a 347 lb woman. It's not because I think I'm deserving of something better or hate her but rather I'm just not atrracted to her. I'm sure there are some women who would find me to be unattractive. All the power to them.

I'm sure that you face discrimination all the time. We all do. Do people of a different colour assume that I'm treating them a certain way only because of their colour? I'm sure some of them do. Do you find yourself thinking or acting differently when interacting with people of a different ethnic background?

Unfortunately in today's world, people tend to assume they are treated differently only because they look or act differently. Maybe they're treated that way because they're obnoxious or just not likeable. Luckily for me, I realised I could be a better person by not making assumptions about people. It can be difficult at times but I find I'm much happier now. I treat people the way I want to be treated.


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dog.. you dont' have a clue, and you don't seem willing to clue in...

Everyone discriminates... discrimination is part of our life. When we choose the Pasta vs the fish, the blue shirt over the white, the BMW over the Honda, we are discriminating. It is how we make choices...

When we discriminate based on Race then you are venturing into the realm of racism...

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dis‧crim‧i‧nate  /v. dɪˈskrɪməˌneɪt; adj. dɪˈskrɪmənɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. di-skrim-uh-neyt; adj. di-skrim-uh-nit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -nat‧ed, -nat‧ing, adjective

1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality: The new law discriminates against foreigners. He discriminates in favor of his relatives.

2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.

3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.

4. to note or distinguish as different: He can discriminate minute variations in tone.

5. marked by discrimination; making or evidencing nice distinctions: discriminate people; discriminate judgments.


–noun 1. a Racism: Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
rac‧ism  /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
1. belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


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So when a hooker says that she accepts white clients only, is there a reason for that??? This is a basic business transaction and should only be seen as that.... not some sort of intimate contact or friendship or lover... what she prefers on her own time is her choice, refusing all other races except whites (carte blanche) can only be one thing...

One more thing... you say that you don't make assumptions about people, but

Unfortunately in today's world, people tend to assume they are treated differently only because they look or act differently. Maybe they're treated that way because they're obnoxious or just not likeable.

 

[slowandeasy]

I'ved been asked one time by a reputable agency while I'm booking for one of there girl, because of my accent sounds like the race that the girl scared of. after I told my background of origin, he explain to me that most of there girls doesnt want to see this certain race because most of the girls had experienced that majority of these race are demanding and abusive. QUOTE]

So what race/color of people are we talking about!!!! Please provide a label...

 

[slowandeasy]

I agree on this
He said:
"Hey CHOOCHOO, you've been here since August 2003, and this thread was your first post - we need a review from you, please. Thanks"

while Choochoo has started a valuable discussion on this topic, it is time to stop being a floater and share !

How can the guy share... he can't get a date because is sounds west indian...

 

[slowandeasy]

No its not! So if one gets a bbbj and the next guy from the same sp gets a cbj even though he wanted a bbbj is that discrimination?

If the sign says... bbbj for black only, all other races get cbj... then it's racist...

The Miss Black America is racist, scholarships for a particular ethnic group is racist etc...

Someone mentioned govt jobs given to ethnics only, or govt programs for ethnics only, police recruits for minorities... all racist.. necessary, because they are a form of admission that racism in hiring is preventing ethnics from getting jobs.... but still racist...

It has changed drastically over the years, but I remember city jobs (20 years ago, paying $35K) that were never accessible to minorities because of nepotism...

 

[Big Michael]

Federal Gov't job openings that are only available to minorities. Gov't biz start up loans only open to minorities. Certain percent of police and public agency hirings only open to minorities. Its tax money available to only people of colour. Good or bad it reeks of racisim.

There are no Gov't jobs available only to minorities, there are no Biz loans only available to minorities, there are targets for police jobs (with a view to represent the general population). Your thinking is that of a many without any factual basis to support the thoughts. It's ironic that you brought up government jobs because that is the segment that has the least representation by visible minorities and the government, federal in particular, that has one of the worst records for discriminatory practices at the OHRC. The discriminatory practices are sytemic, which often occurs in institutions without a meritocracy. Conversely, the professions where its all about merit, is the segment with the highest visible minorities.

 

[RTRD]

Are you saying...

IMO is not really a racist thing when a girl won't see someone based on race. It's their choice really, because remember: This is a physical service, and if a girl is physically turned off by someone's look, it's her body and should be her decision. She just might not be attracted to a certain race, and it's a lot like one of us refusing to see a girl based on her looks (for example if one doesn't like overweight providers etc...)... Like someone else said: Her body, her choice.
Having said that, of course there are exceptions and racist people out there. If a girl won't see someone for example based on a generalization like: "Those guys smell" or "Those guys are rough with girls", then it's racist... but if it's based simply of physical attraction, I don't think it is.

..that escorts are attracted to every one of their clients...even the ones they don't see until the show up at the door?

"Hmmm....not attracted to Asian / Indian / Black guys. Haven't seen him...have no idea what he looks like...but nope...I'm not attracted to him.

350 lb bald white guy though...oh yeah....I'm wet already"

Yeah right...

 

[Big Michael]

..that escorts are attracted to every one of their clients...even the ones they don't see until the show up at the door?

"Hmmm....not attracted to Asian / Indian / Black guys. haven't seen him...have no idea what he looks like...but nope...I'm not attracted to him.

350 lb bald white guy though...oh yeah....I'm wet already"

Yeah right...

Thanks, that was truly funny!!

 

[Mongrel4u]

..that escorts are attracted to every one of their clients...even the ones they don't see until the show up at the door?

"Hmmm....not attracted to Asian / Indian / Black guys. haven't seen him...have no idea what he looks like...but nope...I'm not attracted to him.

350 lb bald white guy though...oh yeah....I'm wet already"

Yeah right...

lol..exactly

 

[Mongrel4u]

Again with the confusion

I have to agree. I see guys discriminate against women here all the time. "Oh she's ugly, fake boobs, BBW, butter face, etc, etc." Would you meet with any of these women if you didn't prefer that? There's probably no way in hell if you knew beforehand especially when most here are choosing wisely with their money. And many of here have no problem telling a service provider on here that she's ugly or has some kind of flaw. No matter if it's discriminating against any of the above or a person of color, to me it's all the same. So I think there is some hypocrisy happening here.

There is no Hipocraiy here... just confusion.

You are implying that SPs and clients are in the same shoes when they are not. As an SP charging for your services you choose to run a business, and if its a business you really shouldnt let your personal "opinions" interfere...The clients are exactly that.. clients.... who engage your service in pursuit of a fantasy, convenience or both but whose going to PAY money to have sex with someone they are not attracted to???...almost defeats the purpose...maybe they are racist..maybe they are not but thats why YOU are the one getting paid and HE is the one paying...big diff there.... You as the service provider should be above that and do what you yourself signed up for..thats business.

Alexa, I'm really not into fat chicks but If I decide to make a concious decision to get into the SP business... guess what? I'm doing fat chicks...... and I'm going to put on the same show I do for everyone else and get paid doing it. and If I dont think I can hack it.. i'd put thought into a new line or work

It is okay for all of you to have preferences but when it comes to an escort selecting clients, she has no right??? This job comes with many difficulties and an SP should be able to see who she wants for whatever reasons. Yes, she is selling herself as the product but does that mean that she no longer has any rights over her own body or just because she's going to make some money? Sorry, I don't think so. This is not a simple convenience type store transaction. I said it before and I'll say it again... this is unlike any other business. You cannot sue or take them to court. And before someone decides to call me racist, I see Asian, East Indian, Caucasian and African American people all the time.

whos saying they have no right??? never said that

 

[Back Burner]

It is okay for all of you to have preferences but when it comes to an escort selecting clients, she has no right??? This job comes with many difficulties and an SP should be able to see who she wants for whatever reasons. Yes, she is selling herself as the product but does that mean that she no longer has any rights over her own body or just because she's going to make some money? Sorry, I don't think so. This is not a simple convenience type store transaction. I said it before and I'll say it again... this is unlike any other business. You cannot sue or take them to court. And before someone decides to call me racist, I see Asian, East Indian, Caucasian and African American people all the time.

Believe me A.T I hear you but you're the service provider and we're the paying customer. And I've heard SP's tell me and even argue that escorting is like any other business or profession. And I'm sorry but it's fucking petty that a SP doesn't see someone because they happen to be "......insert race here...." I remember awhile ago one lady posted that her friend who was also a SP didn't see Black clients because she was raped by a black guy. So I replied, "Would she stop seeing white clients if she was raped by a white guy? ". Never got an answer.

You can choose who you see and don't see. Your choice. It is that simply. But like my man MLAM said...you can see a fat bald hairy smelly white guy and bear it, but turn down a black, Indian or Chinese guy over the phone.

 

[Mongrel4u]

And I've heard SP's tell me and even argue that escorting is like any other business or profession.

So have I... and then she turns around and says "but I dont see indian guys, they're yuck" (sorry, just quoting to support a point).

Oh yeah sister... real freekin business like... you should host business operations seminars to the canadian business community

its a "business" today and "not quite a business" tomorrow...whatever suits their mood I suppose

 

[Back Burner]

Imagine other businesses?

If your dentist refuses to see you because your black, brown, or yellow; I hope he's talking about your teeth!! (and then WTF?)

 

[xdog]

dog.. you dont' have a clue, and you don't seem willing to clue in...

Everyone discriminates... discrimination is part of our life. When we choose the Pasta vs the fish, the blue shirt over the white, the BMW over the Honda, we are discriminating. It is how we make choices...

When we discriminate based on Race then you are venturing into the realm of racism...

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
dis‧crim‧i‧nate  /v. dɪˈskrɪməˌneɪt; adj. dɪˈskrɪmənɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. di-skrim-uh-neyt; adj. di-skrim-uh-nit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -nat‧ed, -nat‧ing, adjective

1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality: The new law discriminates against foreigners. He discriminates in favor of his relatives.

2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.

3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.

4. to note or distinguish as different: He can discriminate minute variations in tone.

5. marked by discrimination; making or evidencing nice distinctions: discriminate people; discriminate judgments.


–noun 1. a Racism: Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
rac‧ism  /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
1. belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

I'm not sure which part of my post you did not understand. I said the sp discriminates just like the guys on this site but I would not consider her to be racist until she explained why she had her preferences. I believe the race card is thrown around so often that people doubt when it actually happens.

I would love to know why you think I don't have a clue on this subject. BTW I said I found myself to be a much happier person after realising that making assumptions about people is of benifit to none.


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So when a hooker says that she accepts white clients only, is there a reason for that??? This is a basic business transaction and should only be seen as that.... not some sort of intimate contact or friendship or lover... what she prefers on her own time is her choice, refusing all other races except whites (carte blanche) can only be one thing...

One more thing... you say that you don't make assumptions about people, but

I'm not sure which part of my post that you do not understand. I said I would consider this SP to be practising discrimination jst like most people on this board but I would not call her racist until she explained why she did not see specific people. Unfortunately the race card is thrown out so often that people doubt when it happens.

Sex is an intimate act whether you pay for it or not. I feel the SP has the choice to see whomever she desires just like the hobbist. Would you like just any person to show up at your house to have sex? I don't think so. But, like I said I don't like to assume.


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