Has The Definition Of GFE/PSE Changed Over The Years? WTF

[Jasmine Raine]

First, Bone, I'm with you. Digits are about as optional in the transaction as money is.

JR, nope. the SP fantasy is one of intimacy, connecting, being uninhibited sexually at least. How many ads can you find that highlight something like "Lets play, I'm great at helping men feel comfortable, I want you to feel like a King"? My accountant doesn't say that stuff, but even she works works in digits (sorry).
GFE = Girlfreind, not WE, a wife (Sheesh, just imagine that acronym for a second, maybe it means "berating").

And this is where the problem started.

GFE use to mean the connection between SP and client. It was meant to say she made it feel like it was not a transaction. That then changed when guys used the word girlfriend in the GFE term to push for BBBJ. Then it changed to a service-oriented term. That is where it all got fucked up.

Some guys want a list of services. Some want a connection and intimacy. There is only one term now that is suppose to a compass both And it just doesn't.

I agree the terms should be defined or dropped in favour of two new terms to help but that is just not going to happen. GFe has been around for decades. It is the term people know. It is not changing. So we have to work with it and you guys have to do your research to make sure you get the Gfe that you want.

 

[rhuarc29]

GFE = EVERYTHING, except bareback

PSE = Bareback EVERYTHING, video optional

Jesus, you must get disappointed on a regular basis when you see GFEs.

 

[Tempted Monk]

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Some guys want a list of services. Some want a connection and intimacy. There is only one term now that is suppose to a compass both And it just doesn't.
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Very well said.
And this applies to SPs as well - some of them provide a list of services, some of them are able to create the feeling of connection and intimacy.
So, if you understand what you want, you just need to find SP who will meet your expectations - what maybe not that simple, actually LOL

 

[Drizzt]

GFE = EVERYTHING, except bareback

PSE = Bareback EVERYTHING, video optional

With porn infiltrating everyone's lives, we've all become accustomed to certain expectations in the bedroom. For example, who actively wants a girlfriend that doesn't do CIM etc??? In a marriage in 2019, not doing CIM is a grounds for divorce!

Not everyone likes CIM. I much prefer COB. Im not into facials but a lot of guys like that too.

CIM not a deal breaker for me.

 

[Frontstreet]

Can you really feel connection and intimacy in an hour or two? In most cases neither party hasn’t even divulged their real name, it’s an illusory setup; intimacy is built over time when there is a real relationship. The hobby is just about sex/fun in a confined period of time; a menu definitely helps as it sets the right expectations.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

Can you really feel connection and intimacy in an hour or two?

I disagree I have had real connections caring for the inner soul expressing via caring touch and sexuality many times in a one-hour session. Or with a strip club dancer even.

It depends on how you define intimacy (into-me-I -see) as Stan Dale Human Awarness Institute taught for decades.

There are various levels and definitions of intimacy such as:
Emotional Intimacy. ...
Intellectual Intimacy. ...
Physical Intimacy. ...
Experiential Intimacy. ...
Spiritual Intimacy.

But as one of the first users of GFE, it was defined as a real connection for the moment more than just a fun sex act.
For me, just sex can be boring, I seek more of an interaction for the moment on a more intimate level - even if I have no clue what her real name is and if probably will never meet again. Its simply a real human interaction not just body parts coming together.

 

[Josephine Grey]

PSE = Pretty much everything you can see in a movie: Dirty talk, bbbj, BLS, DT, FF (sloppy), DFK, CIM/CIF/COB, MPOS, Digits, Daty, dato, Greek, Greek digits, SW, Rimming, Video...a little butt spanking...a little squirting if you are lucky. I will also add the dom/sub and kinky roleplays.It is of course up to the lady and what she is comfortable to do.

I would however put the long slow sloppy b or cbj, bls, dirty talk in that section as well.

GFE = more vanilla...lots of kissing, nice and slow, long foreplay, daty, bj, digits, massage, cuddling...

Personally I offer both but not ALL the acronyms that I listed. I think you can have a general idea of what to expect but the limit is up to the ladies. Always.

I will also add that both service has nothing to do with you acting as a girlfriend or not. I had some hot pse session that made no difference with what my ex bfs and I had in the past same with gfe. If your gf doesnt offer pse type of sex that doesnt mean you cannot connect doing a pse session.

 

[thecuriousgeorge]

Dont mesn to hijack, but im heading to scottsdale for work from mar 11 to month end..

Any recos?

 

[thecuriousgeorge]

PSE = Pretty much everything you can see in a movie: Dirty talk, bbbj, BLS, DT, FF (sloppy), DFK, CIM/CIF/COB, MPOS, Digits, Daty, dato, Greek, Greek digits, SW, Rimming, Video...a little butt spanking...a little squirting if you are lucky. I will also had the dom/sub and kinky roleplay. It is of course up to the lady and what she is comfortable to do.

I would however put the long slow sloppy b or cbj, bls, dirty talk in that section as well.

GFE = more vanilla...lots of kissing, nice and slow, long foreplay, daty, bj, digits, massage, cuddling...

Personally I offer both but not ALL the acronyms that I listed. I think you can have a general idea of what to expect but the limit is up to the ladies. Always.

I will also had that both service has nothing to do with you acting as a girlfriend or not. I had some hot pse session that made no difference with what my ex bfs and I had in the past same with gfe. If your gf doesnt offer pse type of sex that doesnt mean you cannot connect doing a pse session.

Isabelle is definitely repeat worthy. I have repeated already and plan to again.. her french dirty talk is ridiculously good

 

[Josephine Grey]

Isabelle is definitely repeat worthy. I have repeated already and plan to again.. her french dirty talk is ridiculously good

Hello you xxxx

 

[The "Bone" Ranger]

GFE = more vanilla...lots of kissing, nice and slow, long foreplay, daty, bj, digits, massage, cuddling...

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Thanks for chiming in sexy!

 

[Josephine Grey]

Thanks for chiming in sexy!

:couple_inlove:...as you highlighted for me digits and daty comes in a very enticing package.

 

[Tempted Monk]

Isabelle is definitely repeat worthy. I have repeated already and plan to again.. her french dirty talk is ridiculously good

You need at least two more visits to learn the definition of both - GFE and PSE.
Isabelle can definitely explain the difference better during the practical body to body lesson LOL

 

[Josephine Grey]

You need at least two more visits to learn the definition of both - GFE and PSE.
Isabelle can definitely explain the difference better during the practical body to body lesson LOL

I am very thorough in the education I provide

 

[The "Bone" Ranger]

:couple_inlove:...as you highlighted for me digits and daty comes in a very enticing package.

Always happy to oblige!!! :biggrin-new:

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

Dont mesn to hijack, but im heading to scottsdale for work from mar 11 to month end..Any recos?

Sorry, don't since don't meet anyone here the risks are too high. If I made a recommendation could be charged with a felony. Scottsdale especially bad for escorts since its criminal not to have an escort license number in ads or on website. I have never seen an ad that complies due to requirments. Its the law in all of AZ but civil other than in cities that have made it criminal with minimum 15 days in jail on first offense.

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