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blackrock13

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It's not an analogy. Murder is the actual charge, for example Semrau was charged with murder, he was not charged under the law you quoted.
You seem to forget Samrau was 'charged' with murder, but was found not guilty. In other words there was insufficient evidence to find him guilty of murder. The conspiracy nutts might say he was charged with such a ludicrous charge, so he would be found not guilty and get off.
 

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It's not an analogy. Murder is the actual charge, for example Semrau was charged with murder, he was not charged under the law you quoted.
Now you are being sad by trying to change the topic. We were discussing war crimes. From your post that started this:

Put it this way: Even if they were militia it would be a war crime if IDF killed them without knowing that. The key is whet IDF believed and why IDF believed it. That is ALL that matters in determining whether a crime was committed here--nothing else really matters.
So I guess your new argument is ruling from war crimes tribunals don't set the standards for war crimes prosecutions.

Pathetic.
 

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Now you are being sad by trying to change the topic.
When soldiers intentionally kill civilians it's murder. The only time war crimes courts get involved is if the national courts refuse to press the murder charge. It's the same thing.
 

blackrock13

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Yes hew as found not guilty. What's your point? My point was that the charge was murder.
You really can't be that thick? My bad, of course you can. The charge was wrong. It couldn't be proved to the satisfaction of the court/law.
 

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When soldiers intentionally kill civilians it's murder. The only time war crimes courts get involved is if the national courts refuse to press the murder charge. It's the same thing.
You said "war crime." Feel free to run away from your own statements when you see fit. We know what that means.
 

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Nice statement. You think that some people hate the Jews but it's their own fault.

At least have the guts to accept your bias is because of you, not because of others. I guess you don't see antisemitism as a problem because you have no problem with anti-semitism.



If you want an explanation of why you are a racist (ar anti-semitic if you prefer) is because your whole statement is stereotypes with everything being "they". If you had a clue, you wouldn't blame an entire religion for things that some people do that you disagree with.
Actually, no I don't see anti-semitism as problem. Its an overblown issue today, a lot of it stemming from the Holocaust. As I said, it is used an excuse to prove it exists today.
My anti-semitism stems from the way Jews in today's world see themselves. They funnel billions in weapons and military, claiming it to be aid to help build Israel. Branding people as terrorists, because a difference in belief/religion. The Zionist Jews, are no different from the Nazis. The Gaza is a modern day ghetto, and they don't care, NO one in the international community cares. Just like when the Nazi's started rounding up Jews. All the world governments knew they did it, but turned a blind eye. IMO, they didn't learn shit from the holocaust....a modern day analogy, an abused child will abuse his/her children.... same thing applies to modern day Jews and their relationship with the Palestinians. Read about Israel's foreign policies....

Please..... I am a history major, I try and look at all the evidence before coming to a conclusion. I read tonnes of blogs and political columns even after coming out of school. I did my major paper on Jew's in Italy during the holocaust.
I AM NOT racist the average Jew... I have Jewish friends. I am more so against the Zionist state that Israel is and what it represents and I'm not afraid to voice that out.

Before we make and issue about who's right and who's wrong.....
Why don't we talk about equal rights in the US and Canada, where the predominate race of a manager or CEO, etc is still white....
Or talk about racism about black people embedded into the US social system....
Or talk about the growing media distortion of Iran and its nuclear program compared to the Jews & Israel....
Why don't we talk about how Iran's army cannot support an offensive, comparitively to Israel, who has one of the most modern day armies with nukes....
Why don't we talk about the high % of the Israel GDP is based of weapon and security sales......

What picture do the facts point out?!? Usually, the facts point a very different picture....

http://www.allouttabubblegum.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Would-You-Like-To-Know-More.jpg
 

fuji

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You said "war crime." Feel free to run away from your own statements when you see fit. We know what that means.
Feel free to fail at reading and basic comprehension. I've been pointing out to you for pages, and pages on this thread that war crimes are regular crimes, that it is not an analogy to murder, that it IS murder. I've stated that repeatedly, in multiple posts.

Apparently you failed at reading.

War crimes are ordinarily prosecuted by national courts, in the case of Semrau he was accused (and acquitted) of a war crime--he was charged with murder. International courts only get involved when the national court system refuses to prosecute.

Your notion that shooting a civilian is not murder is ludicrous. It is.
 

fuji

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Rid;

Now you're getting the hang of it; classic fuji.
Now that's classic blackrock--you're unable to undertake the debate on your own, so you pick the losing side, and pile on with inane schoolyard comments.

Do you have a brain of your own? Are you able to use it?

Try and make some kind of intelligent point, I'll go easy on you if you do, I promise.
 

toguy5252

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Actually, no I don't see anti-semitism as problem. Its an overblown issue today, a lot of it stemming from the Holocaust. As I said, it is used an excuse to prove it exists today.
My anti-semitism stems from the way Jews in today's world see themselves. They funnel billions in weapons and military, claiming it to be aid to help build Israel. Branding people as terrorists, because a difference in belief/religion. The Zionist Jews, are no different from the Nazis. The Gaza is a modern day ghetto, and they don't care, NO one in the international community cares. Just like when the Nazi's started rounding up Jews. All the world governments knew they did it, but turned a blind eye. IMO, they didn't learn shit from the holocaust....a modern day analogy, an abused child will abuse his/her children.... same thing applies to modern day Jews and their relationship with the Palestinians. Read about Israel's foreign policies....

Please..... I am a history major, I try and look at all the evidence before coming to a conclusion. I read tonnes of blogs and political columns even after coming out of school. I did my major paper on Jew's in Italy during the holocaust.
I AM NOT racist the average Jew... I have Jewish friends. I am more so against the Zionist state that Israel is and what it represents and I'm not afraid to voice that out.

Before we make and issue about who's right and who's wrong.....
Why don't we talk about equal rights in the US and Canada, where the predominate race of a manager or CEO, etc is still white....
Or talk about racism about black people embedded into the US social system....
Or talk about the growing media distortion of Iran and its nuclear program compared to the Jews & Israel....
Why don't we talk about how Iran's army cannot support an offensive, comparitively to Israel, who has one of the most modern day armies with nukes....
Why don't we talk about the high % of the Israel GDP is based of weapon and security sales......

What picture do the facts point out?!? Usually, the facts point a very different picture....

http://www.allouttabubblegum.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Would-You-Like-To-Know-More.jpg
LOL. From that dissertation one can only assume that you either studied under or are a disciple of David Irving. In either case those idiotic statements have been repudiated by reputable historians. The fact that you say that you are a history major does not make it any less laughable or offensive.
 

luv2eatpussy

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LOL. From that dissertation one can only assume that you either studied under or are a disciple of David Irving. In either case those idiotic statements have been repudiated by reputable historians. The fact that you say that you are a history major does not make it any less laughable or offensive.
Please prove me wrong...... really I want to know more....
 

blackrock13

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Now that's classic blackrock--you're unable to undertake the debate on your own, so you pick the losing side, and pile on with inane schoolyard comments.

Do you have a brain of your own? Are you able to use it?

Try and make some kind of intelligent point, I'll go easy on you if you do, I promise.
Mimicry is the best form of flattery, but considering the source, I'll pass.

You get what you give Fuji.

Your past and present posts and threads speak volumes about your grasp on reality and overshadow the rare occasion you make a valid point. It's too bad the 'Favourite Fujiisms' thread has gone into the Archival Ether of TERB. It would have be a great review of the quality (cough) of your contributions to this BB,m show what other members think of you and show how alone you are in Fuji World.
 

rld

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Your notion that shooting a civilian is not murder is ludicrous. It is.
Again you lie. You have no honesty. You are a coward who needs to invent things to satisfy your own ego.

Show me where I suggested shooting a civilian is not murder? You cannot, because that assertion is a bold faced lie.

I have a feeling I am going to have to explain how all this works for you. What is tuition at LS these days? $20k?
 

luv2eatpussy

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LOL. From that dissertation one can only assume that you either studied under or are a disciple of David Irving. In either case those idiotic statements have been repudiated by reputable historians. The fact that you say that you are a history major does not make it any less laughable or offensive.
WHICH STATEMENTS HAVE BE REPUDIATED?!? Really, did you even read the post?
The first bit is opinion based.... thus how can my opinions be wrong. I see these events in my personal opinion. What I'm talking about has progressed over the past 10 years, when David Irving was already being investigated for misinterpreting data...... a few years before that. Nothing in that post, can be associated with David Irving, other than the fact, to an extent I am anti-semetic. And I SPECIFICALLY SAID, my issues are *NOT* with the average Jewish person, just the Zionist state, that Israel is.

Your timeline of David Irving makes ZERO sense. Another dumbass, pulling a name out of the hat to try and disprove a post. FAIL....
 

luv2eatpussy

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You mean you need someone to explain to you why Zionists are different than Nazis?

Where did you get your history degree from?
Tell me what is the difference...... really?

Two books everyone should read: "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe and "The Invention of the Jewish People" by Shlomo Sand. Both authors are Israeli historians and they lay to waste all of the of the founding myths of Zionism.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons
So you are saying they aren't like terrorists? Who VALIDATES the people they sell weapons to, especially to a country at the time was under big civil disrest....
That was in 1975..... by chance in the same year....

"In 1975, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution that designated Zionism as a "a form of racism and racial discrimination". The resolution was repealed in 1991. Within the context of the Arab–Israeli conflict Zionism is viewed by critics as a system that fosters apartheid and racism."

Personally, I don't care if it was repealed, likely under mass influence from the US. Israel's bed buddy

In the words of Nas " Read more, learn more, change the world"
 

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Hey luv, you should change your terminology.
Criticism of zionism and the state of Israel is not anti-semitic or racist.
However, saying that you are anti-semitic says that you are a racist, which you say you are not.

So here you go:
Are you a racist anti-semitic type or just one non-racist cunt licker who is critical of the state of Israel?
 

fuji

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Show me where I suggested shooting a civilian is not murder?
Post #506 then again in #538. You called it a "dishonest analogy" to assert that it was murder. Actually you continued with this ludicrous notion that it's an "analogy" for several posts. Now you're backpedaling and admitting that it's not an analogy to murder, that it IS murder. Which was my point several pages ago.
 

rld

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Post #538. You called it a "dishonest analogy" to assert that it was murder. Actually you continued with this ludicrous notion that it's an "analogy" for several posts. Now you're backpedaling and admitting that it's not an analogy to murder, that it IS murder. Which was my point several pages ago.
Nice try to twist the argument again. I was talking about the actus reus requirement and you were trying to compare a war crimes charge to a civilian murder. Of course killing anyone one in civilian society is murder and a war crimes murder charged requires a protected class victim to exist which you stupidly refuse to acknowlege.

Still waiting for a single case or text to support your position. But I think you can't deliver...
 
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