I'm curious to see if the words, "God keep our land glorious and free" in our national anthem offends anyone?
Harpers use of `God bless Canada` in speeches
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Fortunately no one ever made me learn that version. I do believe those offensive words are sung by some, where I still sing: "O Canada, glorious and free" but I don't hear them.Rocket Man said:
Anyone know what's afoot with the French lyric? Does it still talk about "…the arm that carries the sword, knows how to carry the cross."?
Absolumment.
"Car ton bras sait porter l'épée; il sait porter la croix!"
Ton histoire est une épopée; des plus brillants exploits
Et ta valeur; de foi trempée;
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits (bis).
Rappelez-vous qu'une croix blanche fait partie du drapeau du Québec.
It's not just in the anthems.
The Christian cross figures in the provincial flags of seven of the provinces (BC, AB, MN, ON, QC, NS, NFL). Canada's head of state doubles as head of the Church of England - but they'll return to Rome one day
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"Car ton bras sait porter l'épée; il sait porter la croix!"
Ton histoire est une épopée; des plus brillants exploits
Et ta valeur; de foi trempée;
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits (bis).
Rappelez-vous qu'une croix blanche fait partie du drapeau du Québec.
It's not just in the anthems.
The Christian cross figures in the provincial flags of seven of the provinces (BC, AB, MN, ON, QC, NS, NFL). Canada's head of state doubles as head of the Church of England - but they'll return to Rome one day
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Many thanks, your Holiness. I note that, "…il sait porté l'olive" would fit the scansion nicely, as well as carrying a somewhat more contemporary relevance. I can't remember when Canadians last Crusaded. "Valour steeped in faith…" seems entirely ecumenical to me; you can't be suggesting that only Christians have faith, surely?Pope Benedict XVI said:Absolumment.
"Car ton bras sait porter l'épée; il sait porter la croix!"
Ton histoire est une épopée; des plus brillants exploits
Et ta valeur; de foi trempée;
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits (bis).
Rappelez-vous qu'une croix blanche fait partie du drapeau du Québec.
It's not just in the anthems.
The Christian cross figures in the provincial flags of seven of the provinces (BC, AB, MN, ON, QC, NS, NFL). Canada's head of state doubles as head of the Church of England - but they'll return to Rome one day
Perhaps we want to check w/ Christopher Pratt, who designed the Newfoundland and Labrador flag, whether that is the Chistian Cross, a cross-design element, or just a white negative space. I'd bet the last; he is an artist.
But I have to grant you, the Union flag that appears in the hoist of all those provincial Red Ensigns is chock-a-block w/ crosses, three I believe, though they got all jumbled like that because they were national symbols, rather than religious. Fond of the foolish pageantries and pomps of the past as I am, I don't doubt those ensigns too will one day go the way of the Canadian one that we used to fly over the Peace Tower.
I hope at that time the other provinces follow Newfoundland's example. Better we follow art, certainly few have been ordered to their deaths in its name. Can't say as much about flags w/ religious symbols can we Mr. Wizard? So YH, if I may be permitted an invocation: May the stupidities of faith that spawn hatred and bloodshed in the name of Cross and Crescent go too.
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I hope to GOD you are an American saying such a thing.oldjones said:
This is our National anthem BTW...
Where does it say "O Canada, Glorious and Free?"
Official Lyrics of O Canada!
O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God Bless Canada
Sorry to dash your hopes. Until the GodSquad got hold of them the lyrics at that line were: "O Canada, Glorious and free". That's what I learned to sing, before we even had a national anthem, and it's what I still sing today.Rocket Man said:
Guess I missed the lightening bolts and thunderous voice demanding the substitution of "God". At the time, it was just pols and profs bitching about all the repetitions of "O Canada" and "Stand on guards". I figured all the "God"s in the hymns I sung at church every Sunday were enough for any deity. Why should I care what words they printed? I learned it long ago, by heart.
But as long as you're hollering to your GOD, I'd rather he'd make me Irish than American, if it's all the same to him. EU passport doncha' know.
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Those words were never used in our national anthem sorry, you are wrong.oldjones said:
Here is a link to the history of O' Canada....
http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/sc-cs/anthem_e.cfm#h1
GOD BLESS CANADA
Sorry, reading is so difficult for you:Rocket Man said:
First: Read what I said, "I learned those words before we had a national anthem",
Second: Read your own link, to check when we first got such a thing. It was not so long ago.
Third: Read the words of the original poem (link's on the page), and note the absence of "God" where you think it's so sacred.
You might also note that "an official version for use in schools was adopted in 1927", and you'll find the lyrics on the page you referenced, just above the section on Calixa Lavalée. Godless! Not having an actual national anthem never stopped a teacher worth her job, even though that version said "true patriot love" was for "sons" alone. Guess what I learned, and a few million other kids.
So, of course, those words have never been part of our national anthem, but never did I say they were, and I'll continue to prefer a poet's words over politician's platitudes. You sing whatever pap you want.
Now please stop peddling your silly god-stuff to me. Frankly we were a better country when we didn't have stupid fripperies like flags and anthems. But it's easier to go along with the world than expect dull-normals* to think outside their little boxes. At least the rink staff at the Boston Gardens finally knew what to play.
*The ones God must love, she made so many of them.
Newfoundland may not follow Newfoundland’s example for that much longer. There is a movement here to give up the current flag and go back to the old pink, white and green flag. BTW, the current flag design is based on the Union Jack (which was actually the official flag of the province from 1949 until sometime in the 1980s)oldjones said:
This will get the libs panties in a knot
I liked it better when we flew the Union Jack, sang The Maple Leaf used a proper system of measure.
I liked it better when we flew the Union Jack, sang The Maple Leaf used a proper system of measure.
point taken
I suppose I should have sized up the participants a little better. I didn't feel that there was a need to add "as God intended" to what I wrote since it is a given that those things were as God intended. One just naturally underestands that when reference is made to the Imperial system of measure . the Union Jack and The Maple Leaf it is clearly with God's blessing and wishes.SilentLeviathan said:You forgot to add "as God intended".
